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Old 11-12-2012, 03:08 PM   #121
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It usually isn't vertical, more like horizontal, yet I see it it move in the same direction in air and ground, so something is not right here.
Agreed, sorry for my mistake.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:12 PM   #122
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Since you asked, my point.
Every 5.0 player hits the ball differently. Some will give you problems with their balls, while other's you will eat up. Knowing what a specific spin does helps you little. Knowing how to deal with different spins helps you a lot.
As said by someone smarter than me, set early, racketback in balance, stroke thru the ball. Don't matter what kind of spin is hit to you.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:43 PM   #123
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In video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM1P2ej4YtY Alejandro Falla, 29 years old pro from Columbia, looks like followed your advice, but failed to learn how to recognize direction of the ball bounce. IMO, he first must learn this stuff theoretically, then go to court and destroy Federer serve.
Federer hit an ace. as simple as that. he does that even against people like Djokovic. there is nothing you can learn theoretically, sorry
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:07 AM   #124
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Federer hit an ace. as simple as that. he does that even against people like Djokovic. there is nothing you can learn theoretically, sorry
I’m not so sure about Federer ace. So far nobody described how to analyze theoretically and practically ball path after contact. That’s why nobody knows where he/she must move with adjustable steps to get into proper receiving position. Maybe there should be no aces at all.

You are right, he isn't Alejandro Falla.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:33 AM   #125
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I’m not so sure about Federer ace. So far nobody described how to analyze theoretically and practically ball path after contact. That’s why nobody knows where he/she must move with adjustable steps to get into proper receiving position. Maybe there should be no aces at all.

You are right, he isn't Alejandro Falla.
no i donīt think it is him, donīt know who it is, not important

if you look at the video, federers opponent isnīt even swinging at the ball. if it where only a matter of misjudgement, you would see him swinging in the air. so, imo, it wasnīt only the kick but also pace and placement that contributed heavily to the ace.
the returner has a split second to decide where the serve will go, at what speed and spin/slice. he does that by watching and evaluating what the server does before contact mainly not the ball path after contact. just my opinion
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