Barring the seperation of his parents, is it impossible for Nadal to lose at RG?

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[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by Goosehead

no its not impossible for rafa to lose but...

its the best chance the others have ever had to defeat him at rg..after his injury will his level be as high again ??..

we will wait and see the needle on the vamos-ometer will twitch again.

Actually, the opposite is true. This year Nadal played at 50% health. After withdrawing from the Olympics Nadal made the announcement that he'd never again unless he is 100% fit. Uncle Toni also said "we have been doing it wrong....We will not settle for bandaid solutions anymore...."

So you won't see the 2012 version of Nadal in 2013. You'll see the 100% fit Nadal. Because when he has a problem, he won't play Miami. His problem this year started at Indian Wells and he forced himself to play Miami. No more of that.

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Actually, the opposite is true. This year Nadal played at 50% health. After withdrawing from the Olympics Nadal made the announcement that he'd never again unless he is 100% fit. Uncle Toni also said "we have been doing it wrong....We will not settle for bandaid solutions anymore...."

So you won't see the 2012 version of Nadal in 2013. You'll see the 100% fit Nadal. Because when he has a problem, he won't play Miami. His problem this year started at Indian Wells and he forced himself to play Miami. No more of that.

Nadal will never be "fully fit" again.

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

It's not impossible but it hasn't happened yet. I guess it must be tougher to beat Nadal at RG than Fed at either Wimbledon or WTF.

Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon on 3 occasions. Grass never came as naturally to Federer as clay came to Nadal. Federer had to work on it, and evolve his game. Nadal, clay tennis is an inborn ability, even more than Sampras or Mac on grass.

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by Sabratha

Nadal will never be "fully fit" again.

That's your only hope. January is very soon

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

That's your only hope. January is very soon

Without practicing for six months.

[JustBob]

Nadal is done winning slams.








(OP reads this, has a heart attack and dies)

[monfed]

First off, Soderling beat Ralph fair and square,he hit him off the court.FACT.

Now that we have the fact(s) out of the way let's just say Djokovic will get him next year, book it.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon on 3 occasions. Grass never came as naturally to Federer as clay came to Nadal. Federer had to work on it, and evolve his game. Nadal, clay tennis is an inborn ability, even more than Sampras or Mac on grass.

Totally agree. There isn't an event where Fed has a record comparable to Nadal at RG or Monte-Carlo. Mindboggling.

[RF20Lennon]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Totally agree. There isn't an event where Fed has a record comparable to Nadal at RG or Monte-Carlo. Mindboggling.

yeap! because Federer is an all surface player while Rafa is a clay court specialist who evolved his game to grass and hardcourts

[World Beater]

nadal is coming off a long layoff..i would say he's more vulnerable than usual.

djokovic is putting himself in prime position once again to take down nadal on clay.

Djokovic is a player who learns lessons well. He lost to nadal in first slam final at usopen...then beat him the next time around...lost to him at masters tournament final, then beat him next time round...French Open???

Djokovic will be match tough by the time the french rolls around next year...rafa?? not sure.

Djokovic is my pick for RG...and this was even before the WTF this week.

[veroniquem]

Regardless of what they are, Rafa's records in those 2 events are 100% off the chart and Fed has his specialties too. 7 Wimbledon, that's pretty specialized. Still nowhere close to Nadal's record at RG. (And Nadal won some big ones off of clay too. More than Fed has won on clay).

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by World Beater

nadal is coming off a long layoff..i would say he's more vulnerable than usual.

djokovic is putting himself in prime position once again to take down nadal on clay.

Djokovic is a player who learns lessons well. He lost to nadal in first slam final at usopen...then beat him the next time around...lost to him at masters tournament final, then beat him next time round...French Open???

Djokovic will be match tough by the time the french rolls around next year...rafa?? not sure.

Djokovic is my pick for RG...and this was even before the WTF this week.

Yep,he learns so well that he also lost to Nadal at the WTF that same year,and wasn't able to beat Nadal on clay until he started declining and Cvac found his magic potion. I think your post is a whole lot of waxing off and not much else.

[jokinla]

Rosolitis? Benihana? Soderlingus?

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

He holds every record that exists on clay, practically every tennis fan and every single tennis expert now calls him the clay GOAT, so yes he is the undisputed clay GOAT. If Federer is the undisputed GOAT like his worshippers such as yourself refer to him, then Nadal sure is heck is the undisputed clay GOAT as he is 5 times or more the clay GOAT than Federer is the overall one. Continue living in your dream World though.

Go find my posts where I say that Federer is GOAT. You will see that I have openly stated that Federer is NOT GOAT, he is only the greatest of his era. And there simply isn't a surface GOAT for that matter either, and he certainly isn't five times the clay GOAT that you think, that is just your blind worship coming through. Me continuing living in my dream world, my eyes are wide open, but it certainly looks like your are the one who is dreaming here. Neither is undisputed, people will always speculate how would he have done in other eras, with wooden equipment, going H2H with Borg. Heck, he didn't even go toe to toe with a prime Guga. Again, don't tell me what he MIGHT have done, it is all speculation. Yes, he won many many titles, and for me is the Greatest of HIS era on clay, and I respect him immensely, unlike your hatred for Federer, but never will he be undisputed. Keep the tardism for yourself.

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

Then you are one of those who lives in a fluffy World with pink clouds like you apparently think Djokovic does (which is your own delusion as I am sure he is far stronger than you are, and anyway you are just BSing as always and trying to make excuses for your beloved idol). My grandparents are both in their 80s, and when they die it will be sad, but it will also be expected by all in the family, since that is what people 80 are over do at any moment, they die, and likely go to a better place. If you reach 80 you have already lived as long as expected, and anything past that is a bonus. It is not something that affects a normal persons daily life for months the way an unexpected death in the family at a premature time does.


Monte Carlo was immediately at the time of the passing so naturally he would be more emotional then, but to somehow translate that to anything more is ridiculous and desperation on your part.

Again, you completely fail on all levels here. Fluffy clouds? LOL. What I am seeeing here is absolute tardism at its best from you, and I didn't quite expect this from you, because I think you are a good poster most of the time. Does not matter how you try to explain things logically when someone dies, you cannot fully control the element of emotion, because it does not work with logic. You can console yourself as much as you want, saying they are in a better place, but it can take time for your emotions to accept that. That is how human beings are. We not only think, we feel too.

So a divorce, according to the troll who posted this thread is okay for you to accept. A grown man, crying about his parents divorce. That is okay, right? No reponse from you on that one? But, if someone loses a person they were very close to, then that is not okay? It doesn't effect them?. His grandfather sheltered him and his family through a very dark time in his early life, and he has spoken about how deeply connected he was to him...but that must be BS right? These guys are not human, they don't feel emotion, they don't feel pain? Whatever.

You think I am taking away from YOUR HERO by saying this. That is the real truth of your response. I understand, because he is your idol. But I gave that troll the reply he deserved, for suggesting that Nadal is the only one vulnerable by events outside of tennis, when this is nothing but utter crap. And as I have stated, I lost my grandfather this year, so yeah, this touched a nerve with me. You haven't crossed that bridge yet...so keep your logic for yourself until then.

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by World Beater

nadal is coming off a long layoff..i would say he's more vulnerable than usual.djokovic is putting himself in prime position once again to take down nadal on clay.

Djokovic is a player who learns lessons well. He lost to nadal in first slam final at usopen...then beat him the next time around...lost to him at masters tournament final, then beat him next time round...French Open???

Djokovic will be match tough by the time the french rolls around next year...rafa?? not sure.

Djokovic is my pick for RG...and this was even before the WTF this week.

See: 2009.

[DolgoSantoro]

Soderling blasted Rafa off the court, get over it. I think Novak would have beaten him if they had played at the 2011 French as well. It was also possible for Federer to beat him there at least once, but he couldn't sustain the level necessary. It is quite possible to beat Nadal at Roland Garros, just mind bogglingly difficult

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by DolgoSantoro

Soderling blasted Rafa off the court, get over it. I think Novak would have beaten him if they had played at the 2011 French as well. It was also possible for Federer to beat him there at least once, but he couldn't sustain the level necessary. It is quite possible to beat Nadal at Roland Garros, just mind bogglingly difficult

Blasted Nadal off the court in a 4th set tie-breaker. Awfully close to 5 sets. And what happened after that? Nadal won 6 sets in a row over Soderling at Roland Garros (2010, 2011).

[Tafmatch]

Janowicz in 4.

[Sabratha]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

Blasted Nadal off the court in a 4th set tie-breaker. Awfully close to 5 sets. And what happened after that? Nadal won 6 sets in a row over Soderling at Roland Garros (2010, 2011).

Yeah, while Soderling is in decline.