most of the time, strings importance is WAYYYYY overrated?

[fortun8son]

I think that the mental aspect of the game is often underrated by the equipment-centric posters that frequent this site.
Racquets and strings are very important to those who care about that sort of thing.
Obviously, your nemesis does not. To him, they are just tools.
He's gotten used to using ordinary strings until they break.
He would probably resist modern innovations and, moreover, they'd likely damage his game.

I've seen this in other fields, too.
For example: Pete Townsend uses old school, heavy gauge strings that most modern guitarists would find unplayable.
That what his style was built upon and he sticks with it.

[MikeHitsHard93]

I play oftenly with 3.0s or lower. I have NEVER broken a string playing against one of them. The only time I break string is when I play against my 3.5-4.0 regular hitting partner. Our levels are about the same and we both bash from the baseline. It gets fun!

[COPEY]

Originally Posted by fortun8son

I think that the mental aspect of the game is often underrated by the equipment-centric posters that frequent this site.
Racquets and strings are very important to those who care about that sort of thing.
Obviously, your nemesis does not. To him, they are just tools.
He's gotten used to using ordinary strings until they break.
He would probably resist modern innovations and, moreover, they'd likely damage his game.

I've seen this in other fields, too.
For example: Pete Townsend uses old school, heavy gauge strings that most modern guitarists would find unplayable.
That what his style was built upon and he sticks with it.

Good post, fortun8son.

[fortun8son]

I had to think about this one before writing.

If I was stringing for the other guy, I'd just give him what he's always used (as long as it isn't discontinued), or a reasonable facsimile at his usual tension...once a year.

[sansaephanh]

Originally Posted by ChicagoJack

Hi Rozroz,



Argument/Position 1 : Strings don't matter much because : Really good players can beat you with anything.

*SNIP*

Argument/Position 2 : Strings don't matter very much because : String material makes little difference.

*SNIP*

[b]3. Argument/Position 3 : Strings make very little difference because: Frequency of re-stringing makes very little difference.

- Hope this helps, Jack

Amen jack. I think i love you with my man parts.

As for argument 3, Let's just say that there are a million other factors restringing a resource consuming commodity.

EVEN IF WE COULD have instant (Add hot water and wait 5 mins for fully plump strings at a preferred tension!) gratification source of stringing and no more factors making it a hassle, people frequently restring so they could have the consistently (and subjectively) great to amazing feel they wanted from the strings that "didn't matter."

^run on sentence, but I'm tired and stupid by the nature in which I have grown.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by ChicagoJack

Hi Rozroz,

String matters a whole bunch. I have absolutely no doubt about that. It is the heart and soul of the racquet.

Argument/Position 1 : Strings don't matter much because : Really good players can beat you with anything.

- True, but that says more about ability level than it does equipment choice. This is, essentially, one version of the eternal Swordsman vs The Sword debate.

- So.. there's a guy that consistently, and maddeningly beats you using Xyz string, or only strings once per year, or worse yet, seems not to care about equipment at all. Me thinks this has more to do with an obvious talent level gap than it does string choice, or re-string frequency.

Argument/Position 2 : Strings don't matter very much because : String material makes little difference.

what the heck are you doing hanging out in a string forum? Go outside, play. Have fun, enjoy your game.



Nothing good comes easy. The folks that claim there is no difference are most likely the folks who are poo poo - ing an arduous process, and have not done the work.

3. Argument/Position 3 : Strings make very little difference because: Frequency of re-stringing makes very little difference. That's actually a very interesting topic, which involves a pretty nuanced answer. I'll save that for another day. This post is already so long that nobody will read it LOL.

thanks.
i can try to explain my position again in order to be more clear (regarding the highlighted parts):

when I play i recently learned to feel the change in strings tension, going dead, trampolined, etc. i can feel those changes and i can feel i have to adjust or be extra careful in order to keep the ball in or whatever.

but that's what i cannot accept. this is no excuse whatsoever.

if it's the level of play that makes the old guy handle his shots pretty much the same all the time, well then maybe i'm frustrated a bit

that's why i was wondering if besides the feel and fun of a fresh good stringjob is it really worth it? it's frustrating that i cannot adjust my game and start wondering about my strings, no?

about hanging out in the string forum: i mostly doing that when deciding on good reels to buy for a long period of time. other than that i totally don't care about it afterwards and just go and play.

about frequency of stringing: i think we could all say that after 6-8 hours or even less we would prefer a new string bed.
that makes me even more frustrated. it's too much money and time wasting, instead of just playing. is it not being spoiled? i totally prefer having a string for as long as possible and just play...
and please- i KNOW it's fun changing strings and experimenting. and i totally dig the FUN FACTOR of great strings. i'm not talking about that. it's just that since i started with poly hybrids the inevitable cycle of re-stringing became more apparent. so watching the old guy bagel me with my quality hybrid makes me mad

[fortun8son]

"You are correct to question, Grasshopper. It is not all as others would have you believe."- Master Po

[bad_call]

Originally Posted by fortun8son

I had to think about this one before writing.

If I was stringing for the other guy, I'd just give him what he's always used (as long as it isn't discontinued), or a reasonable facsimile at his usual tension...once a year.

appears that your time "sleeping in a hole in the road" has benefited your posting.

[Rabbit]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

Oh no, I did not say that this is a rule of thumb or that most do this. I'm just saying that the comment about pros using strings for a year likely is not true when many restring the same day having not even used the racquet.

Agreed........

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by Rabbit

I read it. Still, if you thing the frequency of breaking strings equates to winning percentage, you have either played to narrow a circle or not long enough.

I never said that one time!! Lol..god some of you guys are hilarious.

I said if you play at the 4.5 level 6 hours a week you will most likely be dealing with some heavier pace and the chances of strings surviving an entire year are low. That is it. I never once mentioned win % or anything. How long have you been reading the english language for?

[Power Player]

rozroz, ill add this. If your game is not based on pace and spin to keep the ball in the lines, there is no reason to buy poly. If you are redirecting shots and basically playing a defensive placement style with finesse shots mixed in there, I am rather sure you could just use Syn gut and be fine. Do you have to restring that syn gut every 6 hours? No, just play it til it breaks if you want and enjoy.

Will that syn gut last an entire year? I have not seen it. I play with guys who play that style and their strings still break.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by Power Player

rozroz, ill add this. If your game is not based on pace and spin to keep the ball in the lines, there is no reason to buy poly. If you are redirecting shots and basically playing a defensive placement style with finesse shots mixed in there, I am rather sure you could just use Syn gut and be fine. Do you have to restring that syn gut every 6 hours? No, just play it til it breaks if you want and enjoy.

Will that syn gut last an entire year? I have not seen it. I play with guys who play that style and their strings still break.

i do play with pace spin and slice, so i benefit from poly.
.
besides, hybrid gets more quality in less price (2 decent reels)..
i could invest in a high priced multi but it will end pretty fast.
i guess i can break a full multi in 2 weeks

[anubis]

Some folks just don't care about strings. They string their racquet with regular old POS syn gut once a year and they're done with it. They don't care about "feel", they aren't "connoisseurs" of strings, racquets and the tools of the trade. They just go out there and play tennis.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by anubis

Some folks just don't care about strings. They string their racquet with regular old POS syn gut once a year and they're done with it. They don't care about "feel", they aren't "connoisseurs" of strings, racquets and the tools of the trade. They just go out there and play tennis.

if that's good enough to stand against and defeat 4.5 players i truly envy them.

[COPEY]

Originally Posted by anubis

Some folks just don't care about strings. They string their racquet with regular old POS syn gut once a year and they're done with it. They don't care about "feel", they aren't "connoisseurs" of strings, racquets and the tools of the trade. They just go out there and play tennis.

And some of those folks play extremely well regardless - don't forget that part. I know several of them, and in fact, I used to be one of them.

[pvaudio]

Originally Posted by sansaephanh

Amen jack. I think i love you with my man parts.

^run on sentence, but I'm tired and stupid by the nature in which I have grown.

Heeeeeey, you can take that to the thread in the Tips forum where they're talking about LOVING mikeler's pants size.

[Rozroz]

Originally Posted by COPEY

And some of those folks play extremely well regardless - don't forget that part. I know several of them, and in fact, I used to be one of them.

that's exactly my point. and just now i was playing (not HIM thank god) and felt my BHB7 trampoline on me... it DID change my game and i just can't control my shots. time to change AGAIN

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by pvaudio

Heeeeeey, you can take that to the thread in the Tips forum where they're talking about LOVING mikeler's pants size.

What the H is going on today?

[SVP]

Originally Posted by Logic Dude

I am going to back Mr. PVaudio on this one. His posts were perfectly coherent. He was making for discussion, yet you are calling him out for arbitrary mistakes that have no influence on whether you can read the post or not. As a non-native speaker, I can personally attest to the difficulty in learning English. There is no reason to digress from the point just so you can act condescending towards someone.

I'm a person of color born in the good ol' USA and I know that English is the stupidest language. No condenscencion meant by my post; I'm trying to understand the post.

[mad dog1]

Originally Posted by Rozroz

if a 60 yrs old flat hitter who changes his strings once a year cannot feel any difference and still control and bagel me forever, while i feel my strings already dead after 8 hrs and "my control has changed", something must be really exaggerated here imo.

discuss!

yeah, this 60 yr old flat hitter is a much better player than you. he's probably got better technique and way better timing which are probably the main reasons. therefore his peak potential is much higher than yours regardless of what kind of strings he uses.

for example, i'm sure andre agassi even at 60 years old can bagel everyone of us forever regardless of what string he has in his racquet because his technique and timing are just outta this world compared to mere mortal rec players like us.