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Old 11-19-2012, 12:48 AM   #81
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yeah, this 60 yr old flat hitter is a much better player than you. he's probably got better technique and way better timing which are probably the main reasons. therefore his peak potential is much higher than yours regardless of what kind of strings he uses.

for example, i'm sure andre agassi even at 60 years old can bagel everyone of us forever regardless of what string he has in his racquet because his technique and timing are just outta this world compared to mere mortal rec players like us.
you claim he has good technique.
i already said this guy never learned any technique. he has TERRIBLE technique. but he somehow gets the job done very good.
and he has 9 years more experience than me. and full of confidence. that's the differences. all this is obvious. i was referring to the strings mainly.
once i'll feel better to confront him again i'll video the match.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:58 AM   #82
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The strings are only part of it.
He's comfortable, not searching.
~IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND~ Whooo!
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:26 AM   #83
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The strings are only part of it.
He's comfortable, not searching.
~IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND~ Whooo!
again.. the whole debate is how actually big is strings/performance ratio.
is it 10%?
that's what i would guess. even less.
if it was bigger than that, it's simply a paradox saying a guy would play a year on dry, no tension strings and still feel comfortable and precise with them.

only other option is either he talks nonsense and changes in less than a year, or that his performance goes a bit down as time goes by and he's too numb to feel it or consciously address it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:27 AM   #84
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I'm a person of color born in the good ol' USA and I know that English is the stupidest language. No condenscencion meant by my post; I'm trying to understand the post.
That's just it. Pointing out how he used come one instead of come on is quite simply petty. If you honestly can't understand what he is saying, you either have a very weak grasp on the English language or you are just looking for something to make fun of. Every one of his posts are completely readable, you just seem to want to point out every grammatical flaw.

It would be akin to me asking what you mean by ol'. It's obviously not proper grammar. What are you trying to say? I now have no idea what your post is about.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:06 AM   #85
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That's just it. Pointing out how he used come one instead of come on is quite simply petty. If you honestly can't understand what he is saying, you either have a very weak grasp on the English language or you are just looking for something to make fun of. Every one of his posts are completely readable, you just seem to want to point out every grammatical flaw.

It would be akin to me asking what you mean by ol'. It's obviously not proper grammar. What are you trying to say? I now have no idea what your post is about.
lol good one.
on top of that, he can easily check how many times i posted 'come on' spelled right to know it was just a one time typo.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:41 AM   #86
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How many sets did you get from that tangled reel that had to be cut up?
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:09 AM   #87
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How many sets did you get from that tangled reel that had to be cut up?
wow, how did you remember that????
you crazy dog.
i got the same amount i think.. just cut it down to separate sets and then taped them back again to roll back onto the reel.
the problem is that cutting to exact 12m is an exaggeration cause you can usually use only 11m for a job.. so it's kind of wasting at least one stringjob all around.

actually i still use this reel cause i mix it with the BHB7.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:10 AM   #88
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I'm a person of color born in the good ol' USA and I know that English is the stupidest language. No condenscencion meant by my post; I'm trying to understand the post.
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That's just it. Pointing out how he used come one instead of come on is quite simply petty. If you honestly can't understand what he is saying, you either have a very weak grasp on the English language or you are just looking for something to make fun of. Every one of his posts are completely readable, you just seem to want to point out every grammatical flaw.

It would be akin to me asking what you mean by ol'. It's obviously not proper grammar. What are you trying to say? I now have no idea what your post is about.
If I may step in....

SVP, to illustrate Logic Dude's point, with regard to those born in the United States, we're all persons of color. What do you mean?

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Dang Rabbit, you beat me to the punch with your reply. I agree, we are all of some sort of color. I was going to make that post myself.
Also,I didn't get that with the " of color" remark and also the "English is the stupidest language" statement either.
How about the one language of just clicking noises and sounds. That one probably is at pretty much the top of my list, NOT English.
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Dang Rabbit, you beat me to the punch with your reply. I agree, we are all of some sort of color. I was going to make that post myself.
Also,I didn't get that with the " of color" remark and also the "English is the stupidest language" statement either.
How about the one language of just clicking noises and sounds. That one probably is at pretty much the top of my list, NOT English.
I beg to differ. I am of Northern European descent, born in the good ol' USA. I personally have no color. (Just kidding, lol)
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I beg to differ. I am of Northern European decent, born in the good ol' USA. I personally have no color. (Just kidding, lol)
LOL, I stand corrected.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:47 AM   #92
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The only important part of this. Pros will have 6 sticks strung, hit with two, and have them all redone just the same so that they're all fresh for their match.
Sorry my post should've been written in a more sarcastic font.
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I beg to differ. I am of Northern European decent, born in the good ol' USA. I personally have no color. (Just kidding, lol)
Uh-oh. You left out the 's' in descent.
Now you're gonna get it!
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:57 PM   #94
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Remember, they publicized the rule of you should restring as many times a year as you play in a week because people didn't restring that often. So for him, the restrining would be 3x per year instead of 1x per year.
It was pretty common with smaller headed rackets and tighter string patterns for even very good players to rarely break strings. SynGut doesn't die like poly and any performance degradation is very gradual, so players don't notice it.
Big spin on open string patterns is what breaks strings. Flat hitters, especially if they don't hit exceptionally hard don't break strings nearly as quickly. Flat hitters are not as dependent upon exceptional string performance in getting the maximum amount of spin.
For the old guy, it really doesn't make much difference what strings he uses.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:07 PM   #95
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again.. the whole debate is how actually big is strings/performance ratio.
is it 10%?
that's what i would guess. even less.
if it was bigger than that, it's simply a paradox saying a guy would play a year on dry, no tension strings and still feel comfortable and precise with them.

only other option is either he talks nonsense and changes in less than a year, or that his performance goes a bit down as time goes by and he's too numb to feel it or consciously address it.
Hi,

I know many players that have very basic games. Short flat strokes.. play with underspin off the BH side. Flat serves.. but with great placement. These players almost never break a string.. might be playing with the wrong gripsize.. etc. These guys just go out and play tennis run like heck.. and figure out how to win as many points as possible. Strings are not important to their games. However if you have modern strokes.. play with spin and pace.. and use spin and pace to control your shots... yes strings, tension and the proper match to your frame is everything.

That is my take on it.

Depends... is the answer..

I would not worry about this guys gear... I would try to find out how to beat him. Study his game.. see how your weapons match his weaknesses... and vise versa. There are many ways to win matches.

Enjoy!!
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Hi,

I know many players that have very basic games. Short flat strokes.. play with underspin off the BH side. Flat serves.. but with great placement. These players almost never break a string.. might be playing with the wrong gripsize.. etc. These guys just go out and play tennis run like heck.. and figure out how to win as many points as possible. Strings are not important to their games. However if you have modern strokes.. play with spin and pace.. and use spin and pace to control your shots... yes strings, tension and the proper match to your frame is everything.

That is my take on it.

Depends... is the answer..

I would not worry about this guys gear... I would try to find out how to beat him. Study his game.. see how your weapons match his weaknesses... and vise versa. There are many ways to win matches.

Enjoy!!
i agree on your theory too. that's basically what i thought to begin with but wanted to clear my head.
'flatters' are hard for me. hate those low bouncing DTL's i cannot reach.
i must do some serious homework before i go at him again.
only thing that worked was breaking his backhand and hit deep ALL THE TIME. once those don't work he just dismantles my game.
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Remember, they publicized the rule of you should restring as many times a year as you play in a week because people didn't restring that often. So for him, the restrining would be 3x per year instead of 1x per year.
It was pretty common with smaller headed rackets and tighter string patterns for even very good players to rarely break strings. SynGut doesn't die like poly and any performance degradation is very gradual, so players don't notice it.
Big spin on open string patterns is what breaks strings. Flat hitters, especially if they don't hit exceptionally hard don't break strings nearly as quickly. Flat hitters are not as dependent upon exceptional string performance in getting the maximum amount of spin.
For the old guy, it really doesn't make much difference what strings he uses.
thanks. yes that pretty much summons it up.
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i agree on your theory too. that's basically what i thought to begin with but wanted to clear my head.
'flatters' are hard for me. hate those low bouncing DTL's i cannot reach.
i must do some serious homework before i go at him again.
only thing that worked was breaking his backhand and hit deep ALL THE TIME. once those don't work he just dismantles my game.
Hi,

You need to get the ball up as much as possible to the BH side and attack. Do not not let him have the middle of the court. Good luck.... Read Brad Gilberts Winnng Ugly....great stuff for taking a game apart!!
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Hi,

You need to get the ball up as much as possible to the BH side and attack. Do not not let him have the middle of the court. Good luck.... Read Brad Gilberts Winnng Ugly....great stuff for taking a game apart!!
you telepathic ******* you!
right in the middle of reading it. one of my best bay deals ever (1$)
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He's from Piedmont, and I live there. Played him as a junior. Used a pysch on him.
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