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Old 11-16-2012, 04:29 PM   #21
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Ferrer still looks very mechanical, robot like. Sorry, that's how I see it.

I didn't say he was not a good hitter
i have to agree. ferrer is very robot like in his shots. which is actually not bad. every single fh is the same. perfect form, perfect timing, perfect finish. you watch a youtube of azarenka and she looks like 3.0 if you didnt know who she was. timing is off every shot, contact point is all over the place, footwork is all over the place. follow through is different each time, etc etc.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:38 PM   #22
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i have to agree. ferrer is very robot like in his shots. which is actually not bad. every single fh is the same. perfect form, perfect timing, perfect finish. you watch a youtube of azarenka and she looks like 3.0 if you didnt know who she was. timing is off every shot, contact point is all over the place, footwork is all over the place. follow through is different each time, etc etc.
tennis at my level is more about getting the ball over the net more times than your opponent...not how good you look doing it. I realize I don't have the fluidity of Federer, but there are many very good players in my leagues that don't look like much, but then the beat you 6-2,6-2.

Yes I will work on playing more fluidly and looser, but its easier said than done.
It's not like I WANT to look like a robot
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:42 PM   #23
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That machine was set slow enough for a wheelchair tennis player with one arm. It's probably that Jack would not look so mechanical and flat footed if the feed was set to a faster, more realistic feed speed. Kind of hard to be really fluid when you have time for a cup of coffee between balls.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:57 PM   #24
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tennis at my level is more about getting the ball over the net more times than your opponent...not how good you look doing it. I realize I don't have the fluidity of Federer, but there are many very good players in my leagues that don't look like much, but then the beat you 6-2,6-2.

Yes I will work on playing more fluidly and looser, but its easier said than done.
It's not like I WANT to look like a robot
my post was talking about ferrer.....
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People bashing Jack for nothing, unbelievable.

I think He was working on his strikes only, nothing else, that is exactly why you get a ball machine to work on it, over and over and over again, once He has it down, watches the ball around the string bed, doesn't move his head after hitting the ball He will move on.

But to be fair I don't see JackB1 talking that He is a big thing, like a few others do, I'd like to see some other guy here in this thread post a video of how good he is, after so much rant and anger in most of his posts.

Keep it up Jack, to be honest I think your mechanics are as good or better than most play testers of TW, excluding Andy/ Brittany/ Sihoban.
All people bashing Jack need to post either a Video of themselves hitting or their playing credentials. It takes a huge amount of courage to post footage of yourself hitting. Remember Jack is an active and a valued member of this little community. Well done Jack for posting this footage. It looks like you really give the forehand a decent rip. I think movement is something worthwhile for you and all of us to work on.

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Old 11-16-2012, 05:13 PM   #26
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my post was talking about ferrer.....
I know, but I was just relating it to myself. FWIW, I would LOVE to look as "robotic" as Ferrer . I think his 2HBH is one of the steadiest shots on the tour.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:20 PM   #27
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Is that a PGA Superstore? Dunlop Demo Days?
I was thinking that as well...
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:23 PM   #28
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I'm glad the mods removed those nasty bashing posts.

Jack, you don't have to LOVE to look robotic like Ferrer.

You already hit you bh like him, lol

Like I said in my first post, it's natural for some people to hit like that.
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I'm glad the mods removed those nasty bashing posts.

Jack, you don't have to LOVE to look robotic like Ferrer.

You already hit you bh like him, lol

Like I said in my first post, it's natural for some people to hit like that.
Yep, I'm going to leave it at this: If thats how you play the best, go for it....
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And remember this, there is no normal because everyone has a slightly different style of play.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:42 PM   #31
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Thanks for the video Jack, we are all here to enjoy ourselves so forget the negative comments.
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Thanks for posting Jack. Regardless of our level, we can always learn from one another. This is a site we come to to enjoy conversations and try to help one another. Unfortunately, there are a few that think negative, aggressive comments are mature.
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Thanks for posting Jack. Regardless of our level, we can always learn from one another. This is a site we come to to enjoy conversations and try to help one another. Unfortunately, there are a few that think negative, aggressive comments are mature.
there's always a few sour grapes in the bunch. Just toss em away and enjoy the rest.

It is very humbling to watch yourself on video. You are NEVER as good visually, as you think you are in your head.
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I know, but I was just relating it to myself. FWIW, I would LOVE to look as "robotic" as Ferrer . I think his 2HBH is one of the steadiest shots on the tour.
oh ok. yea. the guy is absolutely phenomenal. even though i am sure he's doping. his fh is the stronger side. on the bh he kind of does a compact swipe thing.
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oh ok. yea. the guy is absolutely phenomenal. even though i am sure he's doping. his fh is the stronger side. on the bh he kind of does a compact swipe thing.
Concurred - anyone who can make to the ATP tour, as you said, is "phenomenal."
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All people bashing Jack need to post either a Video of themselves hitting or their playing credentials.
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No thanks unless one's ready to accept negative criticism. It's funny that those who are the most critical are the ones who could NOT accept any.
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No thanks unless one's ready to accept negative criticism. It's funny that those who are the most critical are the ones who could NOT accept any.
Who is not accepting negative criticism? There's a difference between useful suggestions and just bashing for the sake of hurting someone.
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Who is not accepting negative criticism? There's a difference between useful suggestions and just bashing for the sake of hurting someone.
The people who bash (or those who like to criticize or give negative remarks) would mostly likely incapable of handling negative criticism from others.
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nice video Jack. great to have a face with the name. I like the compact strokes - especially on the backhand side - looks good

I didn't think you looked robotic. Like previous posters have mentioned, you look about as good as anyone can look hitting with a ball machine with a long delay - I'm sure your movement is much different when you're hitting with someone who's shots you can read or react to.

I found myself grimacing every time you moved over to the forehand side thinking you may accidentally roll an ankle on one of the balls.

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nice video Jack. great to have a face with the name. I like the compact strokes - especially on the backhand side - looks good

I didn't think you looked robotic. Like previous posters have mentioned, you look about as good as anyone can look hitting with a ball machine with a long delay - I'm sure your movement is much different when you're hitting with someone who's shots you can read or react to.

I found myself grimacing every time you moved over to the forehand side thinking you may accidentally roll an ankle on one of the balls.

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I know, but when you use a ball machine the balls go everywhere.
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