Midsize racket users

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by makinao

If you are intrigued by a mid, get a used, old, classic one first. I got a mint Yonex r-22 for US$5 on e**y, and it is fantastic. Old-skool weight and balance (hefty but head light) and feel (solid but flexible). I found another one (as well as a pair of r-27s, which my trainer friends say are also fantastic) for slightly higher, and would have gotten it as my regular sticks. However, I also got a beat-up POG OS at the same time for the same price and loved it even more. So I ended up with a pair of new OSs instead.

I will look at what the bay has to offer, as well as the used section here on TW

[HEADfamilydynasty]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

how would you describe the feel of the diablo compared to other rackets? I have been told that it has a large sweetspot.

Very large
for a mid.
The feel is IMO similar to the tour 90s but a tad muted.
That's just my experience. YMMV

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by HEADfamilydynasty

Very large
for a mid.
The feel is IMO similar to the tour 90s but a tad muted.
That's just my experience. YMMV

Muted how? Like Pure Drive muted? Or like exo3 muted?

Do you like your PK or Prince more? Ever played a dunlop? Sorry if you stated that in a previous post...

I have not been very fortunate with my dealings with the dunlop 300T, both the AG 4D and the Bio...so I am wondering how the 100 is in either one of those...

[HEADfamilydynasty]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

Muted how? Like Pure Drive muted? Or like exo3 muted?

Do you like your PK or Prince more? Ever played a dunlop? Sorry if you stated that in a previous post...

I have not been very fortunate with my dealings with the dunlop 300T, both the AG 4D and the Bio...so I am wondering how the 100 is in either one of those...

Muted as in mushy, but that could very well be the gut/poly feel i'm getting.
I love both but the prince lets me access my whole game and i've only just broke it in. The PK is fantastic when i just want to bludgeon the ball down the line all day or when i'm volleying alot but the prince is better overall.

None of the current ones but I have an old Dunlop Revelation Tour Pro that my coach gave me a couple years ago. It was the first racket, second overall, that really clicked and the feel was crisp.

[MikeHitsHard93]

There's nothing cheap on the bay...

I may actually demo the new blade 93 as well. I like how the diablo is $99 lol.

Is there any MP racket you can compare it to?

[HEADfamilydynasty]

^^^^
The only midpluses i can compare it to that i've hit with are the YT Speed Pro and the K6.1 95 16/18.

[MikeHitsHard93]

Interesting...

Well my dad asked me tonight what I am gonna do about my tennis class this winter...I'm pretty sure he knows how badly I want to do it.

If I get into a tennis class I will make sure I demo these along with a couple midpluses that I've always wanted to try.

[pkshooter]

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Bori...KL-BBDCLT.html
93in. bit light but cheap
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Dunl...NLOP-D4D1.html
Nice sweet spot due to extra weight in the hoop, more powerful than the old fed stick, but not as maneuverable the imo.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by anirut

In stock form:
As much as I like feel of the PC600, I don't like the balance.
As much as I like the versatility of the Redondo, it lacks pop.
As much as I like swiftness of the Pacific 90, it requires precise hitting.
As much as I like the precision of the Volkl Tour 10 VE mid, the power is in the negative range.

Most people don't actually realize this, but the stock PC600 is relatively head-heavy compared to most other traditional stick, not by much, but it's more head-heavy. Sort of like the kPS88 (I hated the balance of kPS8.

The Redondo, well that's just pretty. I'd buy it just to hang it on the wall for decoration.

Can't speak on the rest, haven't played with them.

As far as MP playing like mids? There really isn't a lot of them. MP's are MP's, and mids are mids. But if I have to make one recommendation, it'll be the Dunlop 200 series

- ~more or less the feel of a mid
- Margin of errors and forgiveness of a MP

I used the Hotmelt 200g when it came out, LOVED it. I only stopped using it because I discovered the i.Prestige Mid.

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Most people don't actually realize this, but the stock PC600 is relatively head-heavy compared to most other traditional stick, not by much, but it's more head-heavy. Sort of like the kPS88 (I hated the balance of kPS8.

The Redondo, well that's just pretty. I'd buy it just to hang it on the wall for decoration.

Can't speak on the rest, haven't played with them.

As far as MP playing like mids? There really isn't a lot of them. MP's are MP's, and mids are mids. But if I have to make one recommendation, it'll be the Dunlop 200 series

- ~more or less the feel of a mid
- Margin of errors and forgiveness of a MP

I used the Hotmelt 200g when it came out, LOVED it. I only stopped using it because I discovered the i.Prestige Mid.

I have been looking at the 4D 200 tonight...

I had a bad experience with the 4D 300T. It vibrated a TON and had no power or spin, however it was strung pretty tight with poly...tighter than it should have been. Would that racket have vibrated less if I strung it looser? I'm guessing the 200 would have even less vibration.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

I have been looking at the 4D 200 tonight...

I had a bad experience with the 4D 300T. It vibrated a TON and had no power or spin, however it was strung pretty tight with poly...tighter than it should have been. Would that racket have vibrated less if I strung it looser? I'm guessing the 200 would have even less vibration.

I haven't tried the 300 since its first generation in the form of HM 300g. And it was a fine stick, just too light but none of that vibration you're referring to.

[MikeHitsHard93]

300T was the first racket I've ever thrown in my life, and I threw it over the fence lol. Does the Redondo really look that nice? Have you hit one?

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

300T was the first racket I've ever thrown in my life, and I threw it over the fence lol. Does the Redondo really look that nice? Have you hit one?

I don't dare to hit with the Redondo, it's too pretty. I'll kick a squirrel if I ever scratch it. Speaking of pretty, the new Dunlop Max 200g is another frame I'd buy just to hang it on the wall.

[jonestim]

I picked up my first mids at various thrift shops or a used sports store in town. I don't think I paid much more than $10 for any of them. A POG 4 stripe, a few St Vincent Pro Staff 85s, a couple Kramer Staffs, a Mag Pro 90, PK Copper Ace 90, Wilson N90 (I think it was $15), a couple others that are somewhere in my overflowing closet... The more I find and play with the more I realize that I could play fine with just about any of them as long as I experimented a bit with strings.

You have been asking about the Diablo for months. Demo it. It's cheap. Pick up a couple TW Holiday gift cards for 20% off and you can get two Diablos for $160.

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

I don't dare to hit with the Redondo, it's too pretty. I'll kick a squirrel if I ever scratch it. Speaking of pretty, the new Dunlop Max 200g is another frame I'd buy just to hang it on the wall.

Haha I'm gonna end up buying rackets for this reason as well.

I think I am gonna try out the Redondo MP. Mid sounds like it has a super small sweetspot.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

Haha I'm gonna end up buying rackets for this reason as well.

I think I am gonna try out the Redondo MP. Mid sounds like it has a super small sweetspot.

Anytime you have an 18x20 pattern, the sweetspot is going to be smaller, but don't let that intimidate you.

In a match, the sweetspot of a Prestige Mid is no smaller than other frames. As in, if you mishit with a Prestige Mid, you're going to mishit with another racquet. A lot of it is in your head.

[Fuji]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

Haha I'm gonna end up buying rackets for this reason as well.

I think I am gonna try out the Redondo MP. Mid sounds like it has a super small sweetspot.

The Redondo mid has such a small sweet spot. Very prestige mid-eske!

-Fuji

[anirut]

BTW, Mike, I recently experimented my Redondo with a wierdo string preparation -- and it gave me a TON of pop and a very large sweet spot.

What I did was I 'stretched' the whole 10+ meters of the Gosen OG Micro 16 to the extent that it was sorta dead. Not like the usual pre-stretch thing, but actually stretching really hard to kill the string. Then I strung it at 52 lbs. OMG! Why haven't I tried this earlier! God knows from where the power came, and this with the usual control.

At first I didn't know how powerful it was, but it was really plush. I let my hitting partner try it just for the feel which then only I realized how powerful the string set up was. The balls came in heavier than his usual K90.

Note: I didn't care how long the strings would last me as it's a cheap syn. But I think I really got much more than its worth.

So, power is certainly not from the racket alone, but from the right string set up (and string preparation) too.

(I think there may be too many factors for you to digest about your midsize curiosity by now.)

[Larrysümmers]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

Hahahaha. Well is that totally a bad thing? should I just add weight to my pro open then? I don't like the light weight. Love everything else though

yeah. add just a little lead around the head. I suggest a touch of lead at the 12. and more than 3grams at the 12 and i would recommend some in the butt as well. but just add 1 and a half or so at the 12 to start out with, it will bump the SW up nicely, but will barley put on any more static wt, thus giving you a nice hammer.

[tata]

Prince tour diablo mid. Switched not long ago and it is like playing with a MP because it is so forgiving. Serving feels so smooth and fluid.