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Old 11-17-2012, 12:22 PM   #41
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ROFL. WOW

MurrayTards on here. How many times has Murray got down on himself, smacking himself, talking to himself, only for the opponent to pull out the win? The YEC, all it took was for Murray to get a little fidgety and Fed completely took the match over with ease.
ROTFL...you make it sound as if Murray loses more often than he wins or something!

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The USO he blew a TWO SET LEAD, and Djoker cramped up, finally enabling Murray to win something of note. If Nole doesn't cramp up, Murray doesn't win that match most likely.
Only a Murrayphobe could put it like that. Murray won THREE out of the FIVE sets necessary to win. That's all it takes. Djoker had chances to get back into the match by levelling at two sets all but blew it big time in the fifth set. And nobody noticed him cramping until the very last game when he tried to throw Murray off from serving it out by calling for a MTO! But it didn't work.
So get over it!

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How many big points and match points has he blown vs. Nole
Just the 5 match points in the final of Shanghai but he's still 3-2 v Djokovic in Masters finals.

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The guy is a head case.. Pure and simple.. Wake up. Are we watching the same Murray people?
Yeah, some head-case he is with 24 titles including 1 Slam, 1 Olympic gold medal and 8 Masters 1000 titles!

If only 99.9% of the tour could be 'head-cases' like him!
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:25 PM   #42
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Talk about putting pressure on murray. Murray is a headcase, llendl should know better then to come out with stupid statements like that. 20% how did he come up with that?
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:32 PM   #43
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Talk about putting pressure on murray. Murray is a headcase, llendl should know better then to come out with stupid statements like that. 20% how did he come up with that?
Veroniquem already explained it:

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1 slam = 20%. Makes sense. The other 80% is when Murray wins AO, RG, Wimbledon and WTF I suppose. Ambitious guy this Lendl
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:58 PM   #44
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murraytards deserve all the bragging after being ridiculed for so many years
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ROFL. WOW

MurrayTards on here. How many times has Murray got down on himself, smacking himself, talking to himself, only for the opponent to pull out the win? The YEC, all it took was for Murray to get a little fidgety and Fed completely took the match over with ease.

The USO he blew a TWO SET LEAD, and Djoker cramped up, finally enabling Murray to win something of note. If Nole doesn't cramp up, Murray doesn't win that match most likely.

How many big points and match points has he blown vs. Nole

The guy is a head case.. Pure and simple.. Wake up. Are we watching the same Murray people?
How did he get that lead in the first place? Did he catch it out of thin air?
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ROFL. WOW

MurrayTards on here. How many times has Murray got down on himself, smacking himself, talking to himself, only for the opponent to pull out the win? The YEC, all it took was for Murray to get a little fidgety and Fed completely took the match over with ease.

The USO he blew a TWO SET LEAD, and Djoker cramped up, finally enabling Murray to win something of note. If Nole doesn't cramp up, Murray doesn't win that match most likely.

How many big points and match points has he blown vs. Nole

The guy is a head case.. Pure and simple.. Wake up. Are we watching the same Murray people?

What? How did he blow the lead? He won the fifth set by two breaks, didn't he? How is that blowing the lead? What universe are you in?


I'm starting to believe Murray actually never won the Open. No, he lost the final versus Djokovic. He really, really did.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:22 PM   #47
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Quoted for truth. It's OK Batz, we know the truth on this matter. Anybody can youtube that US Open match and watch the first set alone (both players are fresh) and see Murray dictating play on a Nole who hadn't lost a hardcourt match in forever. Andy absolutely went for it and showed champion caliber will to win, in the toughest of conditions (against a proven champion)

Of course Nole was going to loosen up and play freely/agressively in the third and fourth sets (Hell, Murray came very close to getting back into it in the fourth and possibly closing it out then)

The fifth set is the absolute crown jewel in Andy's career (up until now). The fact that he was able to display absolute dominance in that situation proves (for the rest of Andy's life) that he earned it over the best, in the ultimate test situation.

No disrespect everyone else but Murray's first Grand Slam will go down as the BEST first win of any of the top four greats (first wins). Puerta (Nadal), Philippoussis (Federer), and Tsonga (Djokovic) were all players who had never been in a slam final, let alone Proven Champions like Nole. He had to get past a player of extreem confidence and expectation.

(By the way, all his other slam finals had been against Federer and Nole)
Not to nitpick, but Scud was in a USO final previously.

But your point still stands, Murray definitely had the toughest opponent. Novak hadn't lost a hardcourt match since the 2010 USO, where he lost in the final. Murray was up against the most dangerous hardcourt player of this year, hands down.
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and see Murray dictating play on a Nole who hadn't lost a hardcourt match in forever.
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Novak hadn't lost a hardcourt match since the 2010 USO, where he lost in the final.
Do you guys mean that Nole hadn't lost on US Open hardcourts since 2010, or hardcourts in general? Because I seem to recall Nole losing to a player of some repute in the Cinci final.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:06 PM   #49
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It's all about whether he can stay injury free now. Things are really opening up for him.
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Do you guys mean that Nole hadn't lost on US Open hardcourts since 2010, or hardcourts in general? Because I seem to recall Nole losing to a player of some repute in the Cinci final.
Yes, he did withdraw with injury in the final against Andy.
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He had also lost to Ferrer and Janko Tipsy in the WTF but he was the king of hardcourts over the past 15 + months for sure.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:32 AM   #52
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Yes, he did withdraw with injury in the final against Andy.
He also retired at 0-3 in the 2nd set as he was about to be bagelled but bailed out like a coward.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:47 AM   #53
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I agree with Lendl, Murray has the goods.

His major drama is, however, is not in his technical inability to hit certain shots or endure certain amount of pounding.

His biggest monkey is that he has no idea what game he should be playing. He is not sure. He has been criticized so much about "being too defensive" so that he feels bad when he is defensive and also feels bad when he is offensive (because it is not natural for him). He always feels bad, regardless of what he does on the court. His muted US Open celebration reflects just that: he is a guy who has been criticized by everybody but his family, and a guy who has been criticizing himself like crazy all his life. With an attitude like that, being torn between doing what he likes (defending) and doing "the right thing" (attacking) it will be very hard for him to become a great champion.

But yeah, he can. Nothing is stopping him. It is not that he is slow, or weak, or anything. He is a top-class athlete in search of his true tennis identity.
One of the best I've read here in quite a while although I do feel that this year Murray did find the best "middle ground" (so far) between offense and defense (he especially dictates play with his FH much more often and doesn't always go CC like he used to)...

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You can have all the "plans" you want. That doesn't negate you're coaching a mental wreck loose.. A freakin headcase of a player.

Maybe by "plans" he means some psychiatric help
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ROFL. WOW

MurrayTards on here. How many times has Murray got down on himself, smacking himself, talking to himself, only for the opponent to pull out the win? The YEC, all it took was for Murray to get a little fidgety and Fed completely took the match over with ease.

The USO he blew a TWO SET LEAD, and Djoker cramped up, finally enabling Murray to win something of note. If Nole doesn't cramp up, Murray doesn't win that match most likely.

How many big points and match points has he blown vs. Nole

The guy is a head case.. Pure and simple.. Wake up. Are we watching the same Murray people?
...and the usual nonsensical drivel.

Keeping in mind that this is the same guy that glorifies Goran (of all people) as an amazing grasscourt competition for his hero, the irony is downright hilarious.
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