Federer and Nadal's Career Winning Percentage

[McEnroeisanartist]

At the moment, Federer's career record is 825-188. Nadal's career record is 553-118. What do you think is more likely: Federer reaches 900 wins with 200 or less losses? Or Nadal reaches 900 wins with 200 or less losses.

Federer would have to go at least 75-12 (86.2%).
Nadal would have to go at least 347-82 (80.9%).

[nadalwon2012]

Nadal will probably focus on clay more than ever as he gets older, and cruise to 81%.

[DjokovicForTheWin]

Nadal will never get close to playing 900 matches. He will retire way before that.

[joeri888]

Don't think Federer can do it. Don't think Nadal will ever reach 900 matches.

[813wilson]

Neither of these things will happen - as written/asked.

Federer: will reach 900 wins. But he will also have more than 200 losses. In order for him to reach the +900 w <200 his winning percentage needs to go up 5% points. He is + or - 75 wins from 900. Two more seasons(from today) with 38 wins a piece gets him there. But he only needs to lose 12 more times in those same two years; that is why, as stated, he won't get there.

Nadal: He'll play 900 matches, but that isn't what was asked. He would need the same winning percentage as he currently has - more or less. But, he's been a pro for 11+ years and played 671 matches. He's only 61% of the way to the total of 1100 matches. If we agree he may retire a bit early due to the wear and tear/style of play, Nadal would need to play 5 more years(from today makes him 30) at a rate of 85+ matches per year. That is a huge increase he won't accomplish....

[merlinpinpin]

Originally Posted by 813wilson

Neither of these things will happen - as written/asked.

Federer: will reach 900 wins. But he will also have more than 200 losses. In order for him to reach the +900 w <200 his winning percentage needs to go up 5% points. He is + or - 75 wins from 900. Two more seasons(from today) with 38 wins a piece gets him there. But he only needs to lose 12 more times in those same two years; that is why, as stated, he won't get there.

Nadal: He'll play 900 matches, but that isn't what was asked. He would need the same winning percentage as he currently has - more or less. But, he's been a pro for 11+ years and played 671 matches. He's only 61% of the way to the total of 1100 matches. If we agree he may retire a bit early due to the wear and tear/style of play, Nadal would need to play 5 more years(from today makes him 30) at a rate of 85+ matches per year. That is a huge increase he won't accomplish....

Good, detailed answer. You get my vote.

[sbengte]

Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist

At the moment, Federer's career record is 825-188. Nadal's career record is 553-118. What do you think is more likely: Federer reaches 900 wins with 200 or less losses? Or Nadal reaches 900 wins with 200 or less losses.

Federer would have to go at least 75-12 (86.2%).
Nadal would have to go at least 347-82 (80.9%).

Do you also have similar data for wins against the top 10 ?

Originally Posted by DjokovicForTheWin

Nadal will never get close to playing 900 matches. He will retire way before that.

This...............................

[TMF]

Originally Posted by McEnroeisanartist

At the moment, Federer's career record is 825-188. Nadal's career record is 553-118. What do you think is more likely: Federer reaches 900 wins with 200 or less losses? Or Nadal reaches 900 wins with 200 or less losses.

Federer would have to go at least 75-12 (86.2%).
Nadal would have to go at least 347-82 (80.9%).

Nadal is 5 years younger. Wait until he reach 30 and his winning % should dip.

[monfed]

Nadal has been winning slams since 2005. This is his 8th year and he's still not showing any signs of slowing down. I mean unless they speed up the courts or something really drastic happens, can we really rely on Djokovic to take him out every time? Only Ferrer's beaten him in a slam apart from Djokovic recently in which Nadal was clearly injured.

Tennis players still haven't quite dealt with the topspin assault, this is why its unpredictable to say how much he'll win. Without a career threatening injury, is Nadal just gonna go completely AWOL? I somehow find that hard to believe.

[nadalwon2012]

The ATP tour outside of Djokovic says, 'Nadal is tougher to stop than ever before'. Nadal's winning% will reach a career-high once he starts increasing his 16-14 h2h lead over Djokovic.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by merlinpinpin

Godd, detailed answer. You get my vote.

Gets my vote too

[agentaviles]

Originally Posted by nadalwon2012

The ATP tour outside of Djokovic says, 'Nadal is tougher to stop than ever before'. Nadal's winning% will reach a career-high once he starts increasing his 16-14 h2h lead over Djokovic.

Once he starts increasing his h2h? When do you expect this to happen? He hasn't lost 7 consecutive times to Djokovic by accident.

But I don't think either one of these events will happen. Federer will definitely get to 900 wins but he'll be a little over 200 losses.

[nadalwon2012]

Originally Posted by agentaviles

Once he starts increasing his h2h? When do you expect this to happen? He hasn't lost 7 consecutive times to Djokovic by accident.

Just keep talkin pal, just keep talkin.

[agentaviles]

Hahaha! It's good to see Apollo Creed again.

But you know it's true. Nadal won't be increasing that "lead" anytime soon.

[nadalwon2012]

Originally Posted by agentaviles

Hahaha! It's good to see Apollo Creed again.

But you know it's true. Nadal won't be increasing that "lead" anytime soon.

Just keep talkin pal, just keep talkin..

[Tennis_Hands]

Originally Posted by agentaviles

Hahaha! It's good to see Apollo Creed again.

But you know it's true. Nadal won't be increasing that "lead" anytime soon.

This is unrealistic expectation. Nadal WILL win some matches against Djokovic this year (actually, I believe in IW or at some of the clay Masters/RG). That doesn't mean, that he will be cruising against everybody else all the time, or Djokovic will let him do whatever he pleases at the Majors. It is not like he was crushed at their previous meetings. Many of their matches were highly competitive and a win or two is bound to happen at some point. Not, that nadalwonwhateverhedreamsof has any basis for his "predictions", other than his tardism, but it will happen nonetheless.

[nadalwon2012]

Originally Posted by Tennis_Hands

This is unrealistic expectation. Nadal WILL win some matches against Djokovic this year (actually, I believe in IW or at some of the clay Masters/RG). That doesn't mean, that he will be cruising against everybody else all the time, or Djokovic will let him do whatever he pleases at the Majors. It is not like he was crushed at their previous meetings. Many of their matches were highly competitive and a win or two is bound to happen at some point. Not, that nadalwonwhateverhedreamsof has any basis for his "predictions", other than his tardism, but it will happen nonetheless.

Tardism? How old are you, 6?

[agentaviles]

Originally Posted by Tennis_Hands

This is unrealistic expectation. Nadal WILL win some matches against Djokovic this year (actually, I believe in IW or at some of the clay Masters/RG). That doesn't mean, that he will be cruising against everybody else all the time, or Djokovic will let him do whatever he pleases at the Majors. It is not like he was crushed at their previous meetings. Many of their matches were highly competitive and a win or two is bound to happen at some point. Not, that nadalwonwhateverhedreamsof has any basis for his "predictions", other than his tardism, but it will happen nonetheless.

Well, I didn't mean to imply that Djokovic will beat Nadal EVERY TIME they play from here on out. As you said, Nadal is bound to win one sooner or later. However, being that Djokovic will win the vast majority of their matches Nadal will not even have a career lead against him pretty soon.

[Tennis_Hands]

Originally Posted by agentaviles

Well, I didn't mean to imply that Djokovic will beat Nadal EVERY TIME they play from here on out. As you said, Nadal is bound to win one sooner or later. However, being that Djokovic will win the vast majority of their matches Nadal will not even have a career lead against him pretty soon.

Maybe I misunderstood you, in which case I apologize. When you said "will not be increasing that "lead" any time soon", I automatically thought of the scenario, where Nadal wins their next encounter (which I thought was a very probable scenario, should they have met in the IW final), in which case he would have been increasing his lead in the h2h. I did not realize, that you are speaking longterm.

In any case, it is still a bold prediction, since Djokovic has to put another extended period of dominance over Nadal (8 months to 1 year) to turn it around completely.