Robin Soderling: "If no comeback in 2013, then I do not know...."

[Steve0904]

Originally Posted by axel89

2010 lol ****s don't even know anything about their player

I have my doubt if he's actually a Federer fan tbh.

[President]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

It is sad his career seems pretty much ended by illness. He could definitely be in the top 5 today if he were still playing IMO. I am not a fan of his playing style so much but he was always fun to have around as he could take out any of the top guys at a given time. He could have made another slam final and won another Masters, and maybe with a bit of luck won a slam before he retired, but it seems that wont ever happen now. His last half year on tour was pretty good too, didnt he win 4 or 5 small tournaments?

Yes, in the last tournament (Bastad 2011) he played, he absolutely destroyed Berdych in the SF and Ferrer in the final in a completely dominant performance. If he never comes back, it was a good way to go out.

[NadalAgassi]

Originally Posted by President

Yes, in the last tournament (Bastad 2011) he played, he absolutely destroyed Berdych in the SF and Ferrer in the final in a completely dominant performance. If he never comes back, it was a good way to go out.

I didnt know that was his last tournament, but yes that was a top performance to go out with if it was! Just curious how do you think he compares to Berdych and Del Potro all at their best on the power scale alone (just that aspect, not as overall players). Do you think all 3 are about equal, or who do you think is better.

[President]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

I didnt know that was his last tournament, but yes that was a top performance to go out with if it was! Just curious how do you think he compares to Berdych and Del Potro all at their best on the power scale alone (just that aspect, not as overall players). Do you think all 3 are about equal, or who do you think is better.

Berdych definitely has the least power of the three (but best placement), Del Potro probably has the most top end speed on the forehand but is a lot more conservative than the other 3 and tends to almost push his backhand. Soderling hit the ball the hardest on a consistent basis and also used the most topspin, giving a really heavy ball. He was also the only one who really crushed his backhand as well as his forehand. Soderling also had about 5-10 mph on the other 2 on the serve.

The game lost a great player in Robin Soderling, he could have possibly snuck a major and IMO was just as good (if not better) a player as Del Potro.

Btw, I just checked and Bastad 2011 was his last tournament. He beat Berdych 6-1 6-0 in the SF and Ferrer 6-2 6-2 in the Final. Just an amazing performance, its a damn shame he retired at basically the top of his game.

[Tropikal_Knights]

I think more research needs to be done on viruses such as mono(EBV), Cytomegalovirus (CMV). Most doctors say everyone has it but what they miss out on is that if you get it when you are pre 18 yrs old or a kid your body recovers . And it does not affect your health as much.

But if you get it in your mid 20s or early 30s it destroys you and your body. You do not die immediately but over time you are 50% of what you used to be. Your strength diminishes , muscles, concentration body all go down. YOu develop IBS and your life is never the same.

Lets take a look at Mario(EBV), Henin(CMV) and Soderling (EBV) at careers destroyed by this group of Herpes 6 family of viruses. I know quite a few people in the same boat and it is soul destroying for them.

[faranell]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

I am not a fan of his playing style so much but he was always fun to have around as he could take out any of the top guys at a given time.

his flat brutal forehand was so fun to watch.

[RAFA2005RG]

Originally Posted by President

Berdych definitely has the least power of the three (but best placement), Del Potro probably has the most top end speed on the forehand but is a lot more conservative than the other 3 and tends to almost push his backhand. Soderling hit the ball the hardest on a consistent basis and also used the most topspin, giving a really heavy ball. He was also the only one who really crushed his backhand as well as his forehand. Soderling also had about 5-10 mph on the other 2 on the serve.

The game lost a great player in Robin Soderling, he could have possibly snuck a major and IMO was just as good (if not better) a player as Del Potro.

Btw, I just checked and Bastad 2011 was his last tournament. He beat Berdych 6-1 6-0 in the SF and Ferrer 6-2 6-2 in the Final. Just an amazing performance, its a damn shame he retired at basically the top of his game.

And he was an extremely good Roland Garros player. Made 2 Roland Garros finals=

2009 RG Final: Federer d Soderling 6-1, 7-6(1), 6-4.
2010 RG Final: Nadal d Soderling 6-4, 6-2, 6-4.

Best Roland Garros player outside of Nadal. He beat Federer and Nadal at Roland Garros, albeit in the earlier rounds.

[Hitman]

I miss this guy.

[6-1 6-3 6-0]

Nadal currently leads Soderling 81-48 in games won/lost in their Roland Garros matches. I would like them to meet at least one more time at Roland Garros, so Nadal can win an even one-hundred games (he'd have to win 6-x, 6-x, 7-x or by a similar scoreline). A fitting end to one of the greatest 'rivalries' at Roland Garros.

[spinovic]

Originally Posted by kimbahpnam

he sold himself to the devil for that win vs rafa and now it's time to collect......

but seriously, i actually miss him on tour and i'm not a fan of his.

Me too. I'd love to see Soderling return and find his previous form.

[jrs]

Originally Posted by Tropikal_Knights

I think more research needs to be done on viruses such as mono(EBV), Cytomegalovirus (CMV). Most doctors say everyone has it but what they miss out on is that if you get it when you are pre 18 yrs old or a kid your body recovers . And it does not affect your health as much.

But if you get it in your mid 20s or early 30s it destroys you and your body. You do not die immediately but over time you are 50% of what you used to be. Your strength diminishes , muscles, concentration body all go down. YOu develop IBS and your life is never the same.

Lets take a look at Mario(EBV), Henin(CMV) and Soderling (EBV) at careers destroyed by this group of Herpes 6 family of viruses. I know quite a few people in the same boat and it is soul destroying for them.

If it's a virus then there is no treatment right?
Who is Mario?
I thought Roger Federer had this a couple of years back. I didn't realize Henin retired due to health reasons.
Hopefully, Soderling would make it back - in the ATP - the competition is pretty tough.

[Fiji]

His RG upsets won't be forgotten anytime soon.

[mmk]

Originally Posted by jrs

If it's a virus then there is no treatment right?
Who is Mario?
I thought Roger Federer had this a couple of years back. I didn't realize Henin retired due to health reasons.
Hopefully, Soderling would make it back - in the ATP - the competition is pretty tough.

Mario Ancic

Mono is potentially no joke, it nearly killed my oldest daughter in the fall of 2009 when she was a senior in college. As it was, she missed a lot of classes.

[spinovic]

Originally Posted by mmk

Mario Ancic

Mono is potentially no joke, it nearly killed my oldest daughter in the fall of 2009 when she was a senior in college. As it was, she missed a lot of classes.

Yes. From what I've read, the severity can vary from person-to-person and case-to-case. Federer was lucky as his was brief and not that severe. Soderling (and others) haven't been so lucky and it has turned into a prolonged struggle. It seems increasingly likely that it has ended his promising career prematurely. He was a guy, prior to his injury, who obviously had the potential with his talent and big game to catch lightning in a bottle a la Delpo in 2009 and steal a slam from the top guys.

[beckstennis]

Originally Posted by RAFA2005RG

And he was an extremely good Roland Garros player. Made 2 Roland Garros finals=

2009 RG Final: Federer d Soderling 6-1, 7-6(1), 6-4.
2010 RG Final: Nadal d Soderling 6-4, 6-2, 6-4.

Best Roland Garros player outside of Nadal. He beat Federer and Nadal at Roland Garros, albeit in the earlier rounds.

Oh you are funny ***

[Tropikal_Knights]

Originally Posted by jrs

If it's a virus then there is no treatment right?
Who is Mario?
I thought Roger Federer had this a couple of years back. I didn't realize Henin retired due to health reasons.
Hopefully, Soderling would make it back - in the ATP - the competition is pretty tough.

Yes Henin was ravaged by CMV Cytomegalovirus......

And eventually had to retire.......... That and EBV aka mono are cousins in the virus family.

[RAFA2005RG]

Can you imagine Nadal's aura if Soderling never beat him in 2009 Roland Garros? And no Career Grand Slam for frauderer. Frauderer actually played worse in 2009 RG than any year that he lost to Nadal in. Soderling has had the biggest impact on tennis history of any non-top5 player, ever.

[Tropikal_Knights]

RAFA2005G

Really can you imagine if Nadal had not beaten fed in that infamous wimby final which was played in near darkness in the fifth set........can you imagine can you imagine......NO actually i cannot imagine because reality is that did happen.....

And the reality is that unfortunately Rafa has payed a price with his take no prisoners play as his knees have given out......

So its time to accept that and stop imagining........Be brave and accept reality.....

[NadalAgassi]

Originally Posted by Tropikal_Knights

RAFA2005G

Really can you imagine if Nadal had not beaten fed in that infamous wimby final which was played in near darkness in the fifth set........can you imagine can you imagine......NO actually i cannot imagine because reality is that did happen.....

Except that isnt even worth discussing as Federer was lucky as heck to be in a 5th set in that match in the first place, and was only there courtesy of a Nadal choke closing out the match.

[Goosehead]

Originally Posted by Tropikal_Knights

RAFA2005G

Really can you imagine if Nadal had not beaten fed in that infamous wimby final which was played in near darkness in the fifth set........can you imagine can you imagine......NO actually i cannot imagine because reality is that did happen.....

And the reality is that unfortunately Rafa has payed a price with his take no prisoners play as his knees have given out......

So its time to accept that and stop imagining........Be brave and accept reality.....

it was not 'near darkness'..dont exaggerate (difficult to do on this site, i know)