Pro Kennex Black Ace 22 x 30 - Help!

[Harl Goodman]

Wow ... this string pattern is NUTS!

If you've strung one of these -
How much string does it require?

Would anything bigger than 18g be a ridiculous choice?

Do you drop the tension a few pounds from what you usually like on a
WIDE OPEN 18 x 20 pattern?

Any other helpful tips?

... just plain nuts ...

[mad dog1]

sounds like it's one of the older PK sticks w/ the micro pattern.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...18&postcount=2

and yes, anything thicker than 18g would be ridiculous. if you've got 19 or 20g, that would be ideal, but i haven't been able to find any.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

22 x 30?! Please post a picture!!!

Tips... hmm

If they're yours, say f-it and get a new frame.

If they're your friend's, say f-it I'm not stringing a 22 x 30 frame.

[Torres]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

22 x 30?! Please post a picture!!!

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...2&postcount=15

I wonder what the spin (or lack of spin) was like with that? I don't think thin gauge poly even existed when this racquet was first released? Sounds more like a S&V stick for the 'back in the day' crowd.

[anirut]

I have mine strung with 17g syn gut at 35 lbs (or 40?). You'll need 15 meters for the job. Or may be a bit more (+ half a meter to be on the safe side).

As for spin ... you've got to try it. It's all up to your technique. The spin will be more sort of penetrating than loopy.

I still use mine from time to time for the fun of it. I don't play competitive tennis, BTW. The control is rediculous, the softness is WOW! And it can really hit some heavy balls.

And for the thin beam? Modern thin beams are just no match to the PK micro's.

[Don't Let It Bounce]

Has anyone tried badminton string in a Micro? Seems like a >18 gauge ought to be available, but I don't know if it has the same shear strength as the 20 gauge that used to be available for those racquets.

[anirut]

No. Badminton strings won't work. They're not design to take tension over 35 lbs, let alone the impact of a tennis ball travelling at 60 mph.

I've once accidentally used squash strings on my racket. The ball just wouldn't want to go even hitting it real hard.

[alexgeorge]

Hey guys, How are you. I just bought a Black ace Micro, the 22 X30 string version but, the thing is I really need to get over this but cant, See I cant help but notice the black ace micro on 80s-tennis.com

http://www.80s-tennis.com/pages/pro-...ace-micro.html

has a large head frame, looks like an oversize frame. AND its a 22 X 30 version.

The Black Ace micro I bought is exactly thesame, looks thesame, Even HAS thesame 22 X 30 strings.. but the thing is, its oval headed. Only~ 85sq.

Its not a wide circular head size like the 80s-tennis picture, and I really wanted to know if there is not just one head size made for the black ace micro, But TWO headsizes?

Is that true? Because it has to be. I cant help but believe that it only exists as an oval head because the 80s-tennis picture is circular, And I know people tell me he just showed at a different view, but even if he did, it looks more circular then any other angle shot photo.

[alexgeorge]

Oh I got it. Yes It only came in one size, The head was just widened when the photo showned the head pointing up, and as the head of my racket was pointing to right or left, it looks more oval. I see

[hoodjem]

22 x 30.

Weird! Very weird!

[anirut]

Originally Posted by hoodjem

22 x 30.

Weird! Very weird!

hahahaha ... that's the early 80's!

It was the time when tennis tech was in search of enlightenment. Or, may be, the "hippie days" of tennis tech. :P

[alexgeorge]

Originally Posted by anirut

No. Badminton strings won't work. They're not design to take tension over 35 lbs, let alone the impact of a tennis ball travelling at 60 mph.

I've once accidentally used squash strings on my racket. The ball just wouldn't want to go even hitting it real hard.

I have my Black ace micro's tension at 28lbs I think. Can this work on it. It says It takes 33 lbs and I have my tension low because I dont like it to be stiff.


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[alexgeorge]

Originally Posted by anirut

No. Badminton strings won't work. They're not design to take tension over 35 lbs, let alone the impact of a tennis ball travelling at 60 mph.

I've once accidentally used squash strings on my racket. The ball just wouldn't want to go even hitting it real hard.

Shouldnt the 22X30 frame be able to keep it from breaking?

[alexgeorge]

Originally Posted by anirut

hahahaha ... that's the early 80's!

It was the time when tennis tech was in search of enlightenment. Or, may be, the "hippie days" of tennis tech. :P

Its a nylon multifilament and its 33lbs max tension string but the problem is its a badminton 0.75mm string. If thats strung 22x30 what do you think will happen. I expected the micro to be capable iof holding that due to its extreme density.

[alexgeorge]

Originally Posted by anirut

hahahaha ... that's the early 80's!

It was the time when tennis tech was in search of enlightenment. Or, may be, the "hippie days" of tennis tech. :P

Its 21 gauge

[corners]

String it up with kevlar 19 at 40 pounds in the mains. Then string 15g Luxilon 4G in every other cross at 65 pounds. You'll have a 22x15 pattern spin monster that will make Wilson and 99S owners horribly envious. The 22 kevlar mains will still give you good control and shot to shot consistency on flat balls.

[alexgeorge]

Originally Posted by corners

String it up with kevlar 19 at 40 pounds in the mains. Then string 15g Luxilon 4G in every other cross at 65 pounds. You'll have a 22x15 pattern spin monster that will make Wilson and 99S owners horribly envious. The 22 kevlar mains will still give you good control and shot to shot consistency on flat balls.

Thanks so much man, that Kevlar combo is something I want to see. Im really interested trying many alternatives to get this racket to make it at the best it can be, like a modified version, because once this guy said to me rom scratch this racket is bad but if you modify the right strings it can be so powerful .
If you can you please help me out, I have email or msnmessenger, I am a tennis player and I got a a few coaches today to help me out but they arent familiar with this as you are

You guys know more about this that I do Im Alex btw

Um corners would you know if a badminton string that can withstand 40 lbs (say 0.85-0.90 mm, compared to weaker 0.6-0.65mm) can actually work in this too?

My email: ferrarithunder@hotmail.com

[alexgeorge]

Originally Posted by corners

String it up with kevlar 19 at 40 pounds in the mains. Then string 15g Luxilon 4G in every other cross at 65 pounds. You'll have a 22x15 pattern spin monster that will make Wilson and 99S owners horribly envious. The 22 kevlar mains will still give you good control and shot to shot consistency on flat balls.

I think you have told me once to use Gosen polymaster2, is that better than the Luxilon 4G?

Oh and Corners I do have these strings in one of these my packets would they work good as well?

I have the kevlar aramid- Gamma TNT Extreme Spin 19 gauge


and Gosen Powermaster II? what do you think


http://www.stringforum.net/stringdb.php?show=95&count=1

and

http://www.stringforum.net/stringdb....w=2648&count=1

[anirut]

Alex, if you string a racket yourself, why not do an experiment with badminton string? It might work. At worst you're going to either have a racket that wouldn't want to send the ball over the net, or break the strings in a matter of seconds.

[alexgeorge]

Originally Posted by anirut

Alex, if you string a racket yourself, why not do an experiment with badminton string? It might work. At worst you're going to either have a racket that wouldn't want to send the ball over the net, or break the strings in a matter of seconds.

Ok thanks Anirut yes I will try it out. :P


Hey Corner, I also have one more question. You know how you said use kevlar and co poly. If I used Natural gut instead of co poly, with the kevlar would that be better or worse? say its the babolat bt7 (top ng)