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Old 12-03-2012, 04:17 PM   #141
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That supposed quote from Toni that TMF posted is pure and utter bs. Give me a break,TMF.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:21 PM   #142
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It would be better if everyone took the view that if a player starts a match, then he or she is fit to play.
OK.

Let us do that.

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Before going on court we knew we weren’t in good shape...
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:29 PM   #143
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OK.

Let us do that.
Whether Nadal was injured, the point is that he started the match, so is fit to play. End of. The same goes for everybody else.
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If we lose in Doha and Australia at the first round, then we can prepare for Davis. If instead we play four matches in Doha and sixer in Australia, at that point doctors will suggest us to rest.. ...
Uncle Toni preparing the tennis world for the "excuse machine" part-timer Nadal.

After 6 months of rest he already speaks about pampering physical problems. From which, of course, we will not see anythig, come the clay-court season.
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Whether Nadal was injured, the point is that he started the match, so is fit to play. End of. The same goes for everybody else.
So, you think too, that Toni should not make comments like that?
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So, you think too, that Toni should not make commets like that?
That's not what I said. It's up to Toni what he wants to say. The point is that if a player starts the match, then he is fit to play.
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That's not what I said. It's up to Toni what he wants to say. The point is that if a player starts the match, then he is fit to play.
That is somewhat hypocritical of you.

We are not discussing someone's right to speak his mind, are we?
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:51 PM   #148
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i think 'uncle toni' is too old school..he just sits there watching tennis, thinking about rafa and training and tournaments and injuries..

where is his i-phone ? or blackberry ??..maybe a crafty look at some porn on hamsterx while waiting for rafa to serve..or some film clips on youtube of 'The Godfather' or maybe 'The Titfield Thunderbolt'..uncle toni needs to immerse himself in 21st century media and not just worry about rafa all the time..

why not be evil...'Uncle Toni' could change Federers wiki page and alter his career stats and move the green squares for major wins (when fed n rafa were in major finals) over to rafas page and give roger nadals purple Final squares instead.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:00 PM   #149
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i think 'uncle toni' is too old school..he just sits there watching tennis, thinking about rafa and training and tournaments and injuries..

where is his i-phone ? or blackberry ??..maybe a crafty look at some porn on hamsterx while waiting for rafa to serve..or some film clips on youtube of 'The Godfather' or maybe 'The Titfield Thunderbolt'..uncle toni needs to immerse himself in 21st century media and not just worry about rafa all the time..

why not be evil...'Uncle Toni' could change Federers wiki page and alter his career stats and move the green squares for major wins (when fed n rafa were in major finals) over to rafas page and give roger nadals purple Final squares instead.
this cracked me up
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:28 PM   #150
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I'm not a ******* or nadtar or whatever **** you are a fan of, I enjoy watching them all play. I don't know how anyone would pick to play in hardcourts or grasscourts over clay, just to be able to see where the ball bounced, to be able to slide on the clay... Clay is tennis, hardcourts were made just to make the maintenance of the courts cheaper, that's why they are more spread all over the states. Europe and latin america are where most of the claycourts are and im glad that happens. I don't know if everyone that posted in this thread has ever played on clay, to say that to play in hardcourt for 2 hrs would give you less injuries than a 3 hrs match in clay is nonsense, everyone knows that clay is way more forgiving than hardcourts to the joints on knees and ankles. And there are really fast claycourts, there are some that are even faster that some hardcourts it depends on how the surface was built and which clay and who much the courts has. Sometimes reading the post from the fans just blinded by their fanatism is sad. As to what Tony said it is true that there are more hardcourt tournaments than clay tournaments, that is a fact, and is not hard to believe that he would lobby to have the surface that nadal likes the most, just like when federer himself said that he would like to se more faster surfaces after losing in basel. Just my thoughts.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:12 AM   #151
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I agree that clay is awesome. I just wish they would make more faster clay. It's not the surface that is annoying, it's the speed and height of the bounce that leads to endless boring grinding. Fast clay courts are super bad*****.

Also there should be an even amount of grass and clay tournaments.

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Old 12-04-2012, 10:39 AM   #152
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Lol, my source is the original one. Yours are inaccurate translations. I did you the favour of translating it for you (you're welcome, btw). You can take my word for it or learn Spanish and see for yourself.
LOL, you acting as these journalists are out to get Toni Nadal. Your translating isn't accurate. One of the member at Youtube(from your link) had him saying..."If we all can get them (Roger and Djokovic) injured, it would be really good for us"
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:05 AM   #153
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LOL, you acting as these journalists are out to get Toni Nadal. Your translating isn't accurate. One of the member at Youtube(from your link) had him saying..."If we all can get them (Roger and Djokovic) injured, it would be really good for us"
My translation is just fine. And also included the part you're saying. Since apparently you missed it, I quote myself:

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It's a lecture in a prison (!) in Palma: "Whether we will be at the top again, I don't know. I didn't know it when everything was going well and I don't know it now. I trust Djokovic and Federer get injured, and that will allow us... (interrupted by laughs and clapping). Well, if between all of us we could get them injured we'd do very well...".
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LOL, you acting as these journalists are out to get Toni Nadal. Your translating isn't accurate. One of the member at Youtube(from your link) had him saying..."If we all can get them (Roger and Djokovic) injured, it would be really good for us"
Journalists are under pressure from their editors, who are under pressure from the proprietors, to get a juicy story, and thus increase corporate profits. You should know how the bourgeois press works, particularly those newspapers who shut out journalist trade unions.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:47 AM   #155
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LOL, you acting as these journalists are out to get Toni Nadal. Your translating isn't accurate. One of the member at Youtube(from your link) had him saying..."If we all can get them (Roger and Djokovic) injured, it would be really good for us"
A youtube comment is now fact then? As someone who studies spanish in college I can tell you without a doubt that you are incorrect. What's more embarrassing is that you're trying to pass off an incorrect, biased translation as fact to people that clearly understand the true meaning of the original Spanish phrase. Invest in Rosetta Stone or shut up.

Even the youtube comment which you are now backing is a far cry from the bs posted in your signature btw.

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I'm not a ******* or nadtar or whatever **** you are a fan of, I enjoy watching them all play. I don't know how anyone would pick to play in hardcourts or grasscourts over clay, just to be able to see where the ball bounced, to be able to slide on the clay... Clay is tennis, hardcourts were made just to make the maintenance of the courts cheaper, that's why they are more spread all over the states. Europe and latin america are where most of the claycourts are and im glad that happens. I don't know if everyone that posted in this thread has ever played on clay, to say that to play in hardcourt for 2 hrs would give you less injuries than a 3 hrs match in clay is nonsense, everyone knows that clay is way more forgiving than hardcourts to the joints on knees and ankles. And there are really fast claycourts, there are some that are even faster that some hardcourts it depends on how the surface was built and which clay and who much the courts has. Sometimes reading the post from the fans just blinded by their fanatism is sad. As to what Tony said it is true that there are more hardcourt tournaments than clay tournaments, that is a fact, and is not hard to believe that he would lobby to have the surface that nadal likes the most, just like when federer himself said that he would like to se more faster surfaces after losing in basel. Just my thoughts.
Erm GRASS is tennis, it started on grass.
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Erm GRASS is tennis, it started on grass.
Things start as something and then evolve, I don't think you want to play tennis with your hand as they did in the beginnings. Anyway if you think the best way to have fun and play tennis is on grass be my guest and do it.
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Things start as something and then evolve, I don't think you want to play tennis with your hand as they did in the beginnings. Anyway if you think the best way to have fun and play tennis is on grass be my guest and do it.
Hardcourts are tennis too if clay is.
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Hardcourts are tennis too if clay is.
Of course I'm not saying you cant like it or that tennis on grass or hardcourt is not tennis, in my opinion, tennis is way better on clay. I would love to know how many of the people that post here have really tried clay. I would guess that a lot of the people that post from USA have never played on a clay court.
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To think of how much Rafa would win (and how much Fed would not) if there were less hard courts is hard on *****, I know. It's all you can see in this argument because of that.
How about a fast Wimbledon and fast US Open? How about the slowing down of courts that has hurt Roger Federer the most and benefitted Rafael Nadal the most? And still even after all that you need more clay courts.

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