APD and tennis elbow issues

ohcaptain · 04-19-2013, 11:26 AM

Hi,

I'm having tennis elbow issues

again after years of no problems at all.
The thing is that i mooved to APD a couple months ago.

As it's a quite rigid racquet i'm thinking there might be a relationship.

Previously i used much more flexible (and heavier) racquets: wilson six one 95, tecnifibre tfight 320....

Anyone experienced problems like this?
Anyone sees a pattern?

Thanks,
Rui

MikeHitsHard93 · 04-19-2013, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohcaptain

Hi,

I'm having tennis elbow issues

again after years of no problems at all.
The thing is that i mooved to APD a couple months ago.

As it's a quite rigid racquet i'm thinking there might be a relationship.

Previously i used much more flexible (and heavier) racquets: wilson six one 95, tecnifibre tfight 320....

Anyone experienced problems like this?
Anyone sees a pattern?

Thanks,
Rui

Yeah bro, that's pretty common. Either drop the poly or grab a new stick.

BreakPoint · 04-19-2013, 11:30 AM

If you do a search on this board you'll find plenty of people who have injured their arms using the APD (as well as many other Babolat racquets). Yes, the APD is both very stiff and very light, which is the perfect recipe for tennis elbow. And using poly strings just escalates the problem and makes it much worse.

phishbiscuits · 04-19-2013, 11:36 AM

The RA on Babolats (save the Pure Storms like the Ltd GT) are incredibly high...

The stiffness of the poly is also a crucial problem for your medical condition.

So, flexible racquet (think Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT if you insist on Babolat), or those with RA's in the low 60s, or ideally, high 50s. I found that Völkl's PowerBridge 10 Mid is nice and flexible, as are some of Donnay's X-series frames. If you have some extra money to waste, go with a foam-filled frame like the Angell TC-95. Foam absorbs more shock. Which brings me to utilizing an effective vibration dampener and a comfortable compression brace.

Low-tensioned, soft nylon or multis- check the ratings of your strings that you select, for example, here:

http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com...ctor_2012.html

Or, just go full gut for a while and isolate the issue. If you change racquets and strings and the condition persists, it's either something serious, or you have technique deficiencies that require correction.

ohcaptain · 04-19-2013, 12:55 PM

Thanks everyone.
I use tecnifibre Black Code which i find pretty confortable string.
Let's see if i can handle this or if i have to really think of changing racquets

Lilguy1456 · 04-19-2013, 01:23 PM

If my racquet/string combo is too stiff, I develop problems too. But I find that I can use a very firm poly and have NO issue if my racquet RA is low 60s or lower, no problem. I would rather give up the stiff racquet than give up poly! Plus, what kind of clown puts a multi in an APD!?

acura9927 · 04-19-2013, 01:30 PM

Head Extreme Pro is you want the spin like a APD, just heavier and without question not as light to swing.

maxrenn · 04-19-2013, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilguy1456

If my racquet/string combo is too stiff, I develop problems too. But I find that I can use a very firm poly and have NO issue if my racquet RA is low 60s or lower, no problem. I would rather give up the stiff racquet than give up poly! Plus, what kind of clown puts a multi in an APD!?

I think you were being sarcastic but if not I was wondering why would multi be bad in an APD?

cluckcluck · 04-19-2013, 01:36 PM

It's the stiffness. Try and sell it and get a Head Radical Pro or even Extreme.

Overdrive · 04-19-2013, 01:41 PM

Please do your homework before purchasing a racquet. Please!

acura9927 · 04-19-2013, 02:08 PM

Its all Nadal's fault and his elbow made of steel.

usta2050 · 04-19-2013, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohcaptain

Hi,

I'm having tennis elbow issues

again after years of no problems at all.
The thing is that i mooved to APD a couple months ago.

As it's a quite rigid racquet i'm thinking there might be a relationship.

Previously i used much more flexible (and heavier) racquets: wilson six one 95, tecnifibre tfight 320....

Anyone experienced problems like this?
Anyone sees a pattern?

Thanks,
Rui

switch to a blx pro open.

usta2050 · 04-19-2013, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohcaptain

Thanks everyone.
I use tecnifibre Black Code which i find pretty confortable string.
Let's see if i can handle this or if i have to really think of changing racquets

you don't really need to use your own body to test APD + POLY. hundreds of people on this board already have. people who are prone to elbow/wrist issues should avoid APD. yes, sometime it will give u more match wins but it's not worth the potential injuries.

dgoran · 04-19-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by acura9927

Its all Nadal's fault and his elbow made of steel.

I blame babolat. Rafa's actual APD rather is 65. What's babolat offering to paying public is downright criminal with ra of over 70...

tlm · 04-19-2013, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohcaptain

Thanks everyone.
I use tecnifibre Black Code which i find pretty confortable string.
Let's see if i can handle this or if i have to really think of changing racquets

Ya right black code is really going to save you. Either drop the bab or the poly if you don't want to get full blown TE. Remember that for most people with a tendency to have elbow problems babolat+poly is a big mistake.

Lilguy1456 · 04-19-2013, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxrenn

I think you were being sarcastic but if not I was wondering why would multi be bad in an APD?

APD is definitely designed for a poly. A racquet with decent power designed SPECIFICALLY for spin. Would be a waste/shame to put a full multi in there.

MikeHitsHard93 · 04-19-2013, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usta2050

switch to a blx pro open.

No, this will not solve it. I get TE occasionally with my pro open strung with full bed of poly. 62 ra or lower will help the OP to not get TE.

RogueFLIP · 04-19-2013, 03:08 PM

Sorry to hear that you're having problems....

But don't forget to actually TREAT your elbow/arm, don't just switch racket/strings and expect to never get TE again.

There's plenty of threads in the Health & Fitness section about TE/GE with treatment options, I'd suggest you read up on them.

Don't forget about arm flexibility and breaking up muscle spasms/knots/trigger points.

user92626 · 04-19-2013, 03:41 PM

I can see how apd and tight poly could hurt many of its owners. I try to be careful and sound with my strokes but occassionally I also feel some tightness bordering problem but never got there.

I'm curious..how many of you use 50# poly tension and have TE problem?

ArliHawk · 04-19-2013, 05:11 PM

I had the same experience, even with a multi. After moving to a Volkl Organix V1 and it had been smooth sailing ever since.

04-19-2013, 11:26 AM	#1
ohcaptain Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 137	APD and tennis elbow issues Hi, I'm having tennis elbow issues again after years of no problems at all. The thing is that i mooved to APD a couple months ago. As it's a quite rigid racquet i'm thinking there might be a relationship. Previously i used much more flexible (and heavier) racquets: wilson six one 95, tecnifibre tfight 320.... Anyone experienced problems like this? Anyone sees a pattern? Thanks, Rui __________________ Rui Babolat Aeropro Drive, usually w/ Tecnifibre Black Code 1.28 24 kg

04-19-2013, 11:30 AM	#3
BreakPoint Bionic Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 36,245	If you do a search on this board you'll find plenty of people who have injured their arms using the APD (as well as many other Babolat racquets). Yes, the APD is both very stiff and very light, which is the perfect recipe for tennis elbow. And using poly strings just escalates the problem and makes it much worse. __________________ "You CANNOT be serious!!" Last edited by BreakPoint : 04-19-2013 at 01:06 PM.

04-19-2013, 11:36 AM	#4
phishbiscuits New User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 42	Low RA, NO POLY!!! The RA on Babolats (save the Pure Storms like the Ltd GT) are incredibly high... The stiffness of the poly is also a crucial problem for your medical condition. So, flexible racquet (think Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT if you insist on Babolat), or those with RA's in the low 60s, or ideally, high 50s. I found that Völkl's PowerBridge 10 Mid is nice and flexible, as are some of Donnay's X-series frames. If you have some extra money to waste, go with a foam-filled frame like the Angell TC-95. Foam absorbs more shock. Which brings me to utilizing an effective vibration dampener and a comfortable compression brace. Low-tensioned, soft nylon or multis- check the ratings of your strings that you select, for example, here: http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com...ctor_2012.html Or, just go full gut for a while and isolate the issue. If you change racquets and strings and the condition persists, it's either something serious, or you have technique deficiencies that require correction.

04-19-2013, 12:55 PM	#5
ohcaptain Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 137	Thanks everyone. I use tecnifibre Black Code which i find pretty confortable string. Let's see if i can handle this or if i have to really think of changing racquets __________________ Rui Babolat Aeropro Drive, usually w/ Tecnifibre Black Code 1.28 24 kg

04-19-2013, 01:23 PM	#6
Lilguy1456 Semi-Pro Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 451	If my racquet/string combo is too stiff, I develop problems too. But I find that I can use a very firm poly and have NO issue if my racquet RA is low 60s or lower, no problem. I would rather give up the stiff racquet than give up poly! Plus, what kind of clown puts a multi in an APD!? __________________ 4.0 \| Yonex RDX 500 Mid \| Volkl Cylone 17 @52lb

04-19-2013, 01:41 PM	#10
Overdrive Professional Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Clarky's house Posts: 1,174	Please do your homework before purchasing a racquet. Please! __________________ ---(2) Boris Becker Delta Core Legend. Looking for 4 more. "I'd tell you where you can stick your comment if it wouldn't get me banned." Clarky---