Nadal practicing on clay this morning

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Just how long is this "silent ban" for? First it was 6 months and then he was supposed to be back. Now they decided that 6 months wasn't long enough so they increase it to 8 months. Does that really make sense to you?

This silent ban stuff is so ridiculous it's for some of you to continue to believe it. What don't you understand about how lax the drug testing is in tennis? No one would ever be caught to be banned because the doper's are always way ahead of the testing. Seems very difficult for some of you to get through your heads.

No Clarky, it is the Nadal "injury" theory that is ridiculous in this case.
I agree the dopers are way ahead of testing but there are times when even the best get caught--i.e. Lance Armstrong did fail a drug test which was never reported publicly and was buried right?

[Rock Strongo]

Originally Posted by Smasher08

I bet halitosis can be pretty debilitating.....

Or harlequin ichthyosis!

You really don't want to google that up...

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by cc0509

So what does that mean? He has been entering tournaments since the Wimbledon loss, have you actually seen him appear yet?

He's not gonna come back in an indoor hard event, that's for sure.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

This is true, but you're making too much sense for the people who believe in these silent bans. And I think if he ever came up positive, they would just cover it up and do nothing. No one would ever know so why bother banning him and losing tons of money with the tours second biggest star out of the game for so long? What does the ATP have to gain from doing that? Especially because they could just cover up a dirty test and be done with it. Makes zero sense at alll.

Because the ATP has to appear at times to act judiciously especially when the heat has recently gone down in the Armstrong case(where both Armstrong and cycling's governing bodies were exposed) and there are other independent investigators sniffing around lately since that case and the Puerto trial is coming up very soon.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

No, I think it you who doesn't get it. Silent bans are nonsense, and your reason for having them(force a player to pass their next test), is dumber than dumb. Sorry, but the doper's are always well ahead of the testing, so I am certain a doper could find a way to pass a drug test. You're just trying to find an excuse that makes the extra 2 months added onto Nadal's mythical silent ban make sense, but unfortunately for you, you just made it even more ridiculous than it already was.

So how did Armstrong and Marion Jones fail drug tests then which were never reported until long after their careers were over?

[Netspirit]

I wonder how the boy on the picture is not afraid of catching the stomach virus. Maybe he knows something we don't.

[SoCalJay]

Rafa is going to take his yacht out on the Mediterranean for the next few weeks and come back with Scurvy. Mark my words.

[kragster]

Originally Posted by cc0509

Because the ATP has to appear at times to act judiciously especially when the heat has recently gone down in the Armstrong case(where both Armstrong and cycling's governing bodies were exposed) and there are other independent investigators sniffing around lately since that case and the Puerto trial is coming up very soon.

This is where your logic fails. If the ATP wants to 'appear' to be doing its job then it would do a non silent ban to show the independent investigators that. If the ATP wanted to do a cover up, they certainly would not target the 2nd most popular guy on tour.

The ATP can't use a silent ban as a deterrent as if its a silent ban then by definition the other players don't even know about it! Unless you think that the ban is silent to the public but inside player circles the other players do know about it. if that were the case then there is no way not a single player would have come out in public about this.

You may think Nadal is doping for whatever reason. You're entitled to that opinion. But please ask yourself if you can come up with a coherent argument for why a silent ban on Nadal is likely.

[MichaelNadal]

Nadal is confusing me right now.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by cc0509

His camp has not been honest since this whole injury claim began after the Wimbledon loss.

They did everything they could do discredit Rosol's victory. The *******s buy it hook line and sinker even despite their hero running all over the court on clay like a gazelle only 3 weeks earlier before Rosol blew him off the court. Nadal's ego hurt more than his knees after that one. Went into hiding!

[veroniquem]

He's not been off the tour for 6 months just to discredit Rosol. Let's keep things real here. Nobody in the Nadal's camp gives a rat's *** about Rosol. And frankly neither do I

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

He's not been off the tour for 6 months just to discredit Rosol. Let's keep things real here. Nobody in the Nadal's camp gives a rat's *** about Rosol. And frankly neither do I

Very true. Nadal has probably forgotten his name by now. Who gives a crap about Rosol except for gleeful Nadal haters? No one.

[bezs]

Is he gonna be like the Undertaker now who comes back only during Wrestlemania or for his case during the clay court season.

[West Coast Ace]

Busted!

Thanks, OP.

The fraud is exposed. Only his most loyal 12 yr old fans will stay with him now.

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by West Coast Ace

Busted!

Thanks, OP.

The fraud is exposed. Only his most loyal 12 yr old fans will stay with him now.

There will always be women who like him for his appeal and sucess. Who actually don't care if Nadal does anything wrong.

Thankfully there are some who like him for his game and contribution to tennis.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Very true. Nadal has probably forgotten his name by now. Who gives a crap about Rosol except for gleeful Nadal haters? No one.

I'm sure Nadal does. He's the one who had to suffer the humiliation of losing in the 2nd round to a guy who couldn't qualify for Wimbledon in 5 tries. And that guy knocked Nadal out of tennis. Nadal is so mentally distraught he wants nothing to do with non-clay surfaces hence his skipping of the USO and the AO. Now he's trying to blame it on a stomach virus.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

He's not been off the tour for 6 months just to discredit Rosol. Let's keep things real here. Nobody in the Nadal's camp gives a rat's *** about Rosol. And frankly neither do I

I didn't say he skipped the tour for 6 months to discredit Rosol. I said both he and his uncle are using the injury excuse to discredit Rosol, despite running around like a gazelle in his French Open final only 3 weeks prior.

[Rocky89]

Originally Posted by kragster

This is where your logic fails. If the ATP wants to 'appear' to be doing its job then it would do a non silent ban to show the independent investigators that. If the ATP wanted to do a cover up, they certainly would not target the 2nd most popular guy on tour.

The ATP can't use a silent ban as a deterrent as if its a silent ban then by definition the other players don't even know about it! Unless you think that the ban is silent to the public but inside player circles the other players do know about it. if that were the case then there is no way not a single player would have come out in public about this.

You may think Nadal is doping for whatever reason. You're entitled to that opinion. But please ask yourself if you can come up with a coherent argument for why a silent ban on Nadal is likely.

I agree with all of this. The silent ban is simply a conspiracy theory, I have yet to hear a a logical argument.

Also, why do people think Nadal was faking his stomach virus? Benito stated he started feeling sick on the 20th and had a fever for 5 days, I'm sure he is feeling a bit better now, it's been 12 days. He obviously couldn't practice at the intensity he needed to prepare for the AO and that is what he said in his official statement, this has been said time and time again but some posters choose to ignore this.

I highly doubt his practice on clay was a hard hitting session. He is just slowly easing into it, look at his practice parter, he is practising with a kid.

[ViscaB]

Coming back from injury and illness does not mean Nadal is in a wheelchair all day.

Reading this board you sometimes wish the Mayas would have been right.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Hood_Man

They don't give an indication of how hard he's practising though.

If he's only having a light hit to try and stay sharp during his downtime then he won't be pushing his body too hard.

It's not like he can't walk anymore.

Originally Posted by Rocky89

I agree with all of this. The silent ban is simply a conspiracy theory, I have yet to hear a a logical argument.

Also, why do people think Nadal was faking his stomach virus? Benito stated he started feeling sick on the 20th and had a fever for 5 days, I'm sure he is feeling a bit better now, it's been 12 days. He obviously couldn't practice at the intensity he needed to prepare for the AO and that is what he said in his official statement, this has been said time and time again but some posters choose to ignore this.

I highly doubt his practice on clay was a hard hitting session. He is just slowly easing into it, look at his practice parter, he is practising with a kid.

Come on guys, you're making too much sense for these people. They probably can't even understand what you wrote.

Anyway, good that he's training on clay. Probably what he should have done to begin with.