How fast do you think the top players could run a 5k?

[maggmaster]

Actually a 5k is pretty easy to coach someone for. Stride out and pull your legs through as fast as you can without getting up on your toes, if you feel winded back off. Pump your legs up the hills and coast down. As far as distance runs go, it is pretty much a sprint( as silly as that sounds)

[President]

Ferrer has one big advantage over a typical amateur runner; he is juiced to the gills. There's an infamous story of him running 10 miles before a match so he could "feel his legs". Pretty sure he is taking multiple types of PED's, his career arc is very strange and no one else in his generation bar Federer is posting anywhere near good results these days. Meanwhile he is out grinding and outrunning everyone on tour. Not to mention his involvement with a doping doctor linked to Lance Armstrong.

[beernutz]

My 5k PR is 17:19, which I believe is 5:35 mile pace. I ran that race while training about 50 miles a week including a lot of speed/track work. Though I haven't raced in many years a low 17 minute 5k would usually let you finish at or near the top of most small field 5k races or at least place you high in your age group. Since I bet a lot of ATP players already run in addition to their tennis training, having one do a sub-16 or even sub-15 minute 5k wouldn't surprise me a bit.

[r2473]

Originally Posted by J011yroger

http://flrrt.com/events.html

Next race is in 6 days.

Just need to make sure it doesn't conflict with a mixed match.

I would chose a more challenging time than 20 min if the race wasn't in January, but that should be good.

J

Sunday's the big day.......

[r2473]

Originally Posted by beernutz

Since I bet a lot of ATP players already run in addition to their tennis training, having one do a sub-16 or even sub-15 minute 5k wouldn't surprise me a bit.

I'd be "a little" surprised myself. Sub-15?

[J011yroger]

Originally Posted by r2473

Sunday's the big day.......

Watching Oz open, on my second pitcher of beer, already polished off an order of hot wings and an order of Mozzerella sticks.

Saw Mr. Pickle tonight, he questioned the wisdom of me trying to run sub 20 on a brutally hilly course in January.

My response was "Either way it will be fun."

J

[r2473]

Originally Posted by J011yroger

Watching Oz open, on my second pitcher of beer, already polished off an order of hot wings and an order of Mozzerella sticks.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/2345

[J011yroger]

Originally Posted by r2473

http://www.hulu.com/watch/2345

Genius!

J

[rufus_smith]

We all might be surprised by how fast ATP track times might be:

Kimiko Date-Krumm ran the London Marathon

"...I ran it in 2004 in three hours, 27 minutes and 47 seconds! So now I have a lot of stamina."

amazing

[maggmaster]

That wouldn't qualify her for the Boston Marathon in her age group. It is a good time for a bucket list marathon but it is an amateur time. By comparison top level high school cross country runners are running times that would have qualified them for the 1960 olympic team....

[rufus_smith]

I don't know much about running but according to this table her time does qualify her for the Boston M. pretty easily.

http://www.baa.org/races/boston-mara...standards.aspx

[maggmaster]

Yea you are right i only knew the men's times my bad.

[goober]

Originally Posted by rufus_smith

We all might be surprised by how fast ATP track times might be:

Kimiko Date-Krumm ran the London Marathon

"...I ran it in 2004 in three hours, 27 minutes and 47 seconds! So now I have a lot of stamina."

amazing

Problem is here:

She was retired from tennis and she was training for the marathon. She was not an active WTA player trying to run a race.

3:27 is not a bad time. It is far from elite. yes she would qualify, but there are over 27,000 runners in that race and in her age group (18-34), she would be in the bottom 15- 20%. Remember Date would have been 33 years old when she ran this. I know a lot of women who have ran around this time after serious training. I know people who never did any sports at all growing up, that took up running as an adult that got times better than this.


According to Marathon guide race calculator predictions: A 3:27:41 marathon runner would run a 21:21 5k race time.

http://www.marathonguide.com/Fitness...redictcalc.cfm

So what do I take from this? An ex-WTA athlete trained for a marathon and didn't do too shabby by amateur standards. Good for her. Could she beat an elite high school runner in a 5k? uh no way.

[J011yroger]

Balls.

Came up just short.

Guess I needed a second steak with that bottle of Cabernet last night.

I thought I had it when I hit the first mile marker at 6:20, but then the wind took me out.

Smote down by the giant p*nis of mother nature in the form of steady 20-25mph wind. I thought she was going to be kind to me since it was pretty warm at the house, but once we got to the beach it was windy as all heck.

Oh well. In the immortal words of Randall Patrick Mc'Murphy "At least I tried goddamnit."

J

[J011yroger]

http://www.flrrt.com/results/win132.txt

34 overall, 7th in my age group.

Only two girls finished in front of me, so I have that going for me.

J

[J011yroger]

J

[r2473]

Originally Posted by J011yroger

http://www.flrrt.com/results/win132.txt

34 overall, 7th in my age group.

Only two girls finished in front of me, so I have that going for me.

J

That's a very respectable time. Very nice. I was predicting closer to 22-min, so you ran the course about a minute faster than what I would have guessed. And a minute is a lot.

So it looks like you are in condition to do a 20-min 5K, but I suspect a 18-min 5K will be out of reach without some months of specific training. And anything faster than that will take some real effort IMO.

But........based on your time, maybe really fit ATP players could approach 18-min 5K times???? Be interesting to find out.

[WildVolley]

Originally Posted by r2473

That's a very respectable time. Very nice. I was predicting closer to 22-min, so you ran the course about a minute faster than what I would have guessed. And a minute is a lot.

So it looks like you are in condition to do a 20-min 5K, but I suspect a 18-min 5K will be out of reach without some months of specific training. And anything faster than that will take some real effort IMO.

But........based on your time, maybe really fit ATP players could approach 18-min 5K times???? Be interesting to find out.

From J011y's result we can pretty much guarantee that Ferrer would easily do under 20 minutes, given he's a professional athlete and J011y's just a weekend warrior.

[FastFreddy]

Dude, I can break 20 with no training or practice beforehand.

I am a 30 year old car mechanic, never-was tennis player, and wasn't fast enough to even count in the scoring of my cross country team.

Murray is an elite athlete, one of the 5 best in the world, saying you bet he could break 20 min is like saying you bet he could break 100mph with his serve.




Eat crow dude and u thought u could go 17 mins in your dreams u cannot even break 20 very lame just like your tennis game full of excuses and lots of talk!! I doubt u even work on cars for a living. Iam not even sure he could put gas in his own car bet he takes the bus no car lol!!

PS: I would kill jolly in a marathon and I weigh 206 and what is he a buck 70 wet?

[r2473]

Originally Posted by WildVolley

From J011y's result we can pretty much guarantee that Ferrer would easily do under 20 minutes, given he's a professional athlete and J011y's just a weekend warrior.

~20-min I'll grant. I was thinking Ferrer **might** be able to approach 18-min, but he's about the only one.

The difference between a 6:30 and a 5:50 pace is pretty huge if you aren't a specialized runner. If you are a specialized runner, I think it starts to get really hard to improve on 5:30 pacing.

Back in the day, ~6:30 was my "working" pace on my 4-10 mile runs. Meaning, 6:00 pace was brutal and 7:00 was "junk" or more like the pace I used on 15-20 milers. So 6:30 isn't "amazing" or anything, but it isn't trivial either.

I'd love to see some other TT warriors take the challenge like J011y did and see if they can do any better.