Swivel clamps vs Glide bars

[tbuggle]

Originally Posted by Lakers4Life

Dual Action clamps are like the Prince NEO 1000 Clamps. Two actions happening at the same time. Single action is like every other swivle clamp machine, where you need to clamp the string then lock the base.

knew i wouldn't get it quite rite, but i know what i meant!!

yes, like lakers said.

[Tennusdude]

Originally Posted by Irvin

Neither are Godd for fan patterns as both are fixed (glide bars are perpendicular and flying flames always clamp with a fixed spread) and the distance between fan strings is not at the same angle or width apart..

Irvin, Stringway makes a glide bar clamp that also swivels. Best of both worlds and you dont have to lock it down. But I am sure you knew that!

[gmatheis]

Originally Posted by hyperion99

My thoughts exactly.

I have always used swivel clamps.
Is there any advantage in using glidebars?
Is it faster to string with?

Yes glide bar clamps should be a bit faster.

Think of how long it takes you to lock the base of your swivel clamps ... maybe 2 seconds ?

Remember you have to unlock the base of your clamps every time you want to move them as well ... so another 2 seconds.

So that's 4 seconds x say 35 strings to be clamped = 2 minutes+

So single action clamps could well shave 2 minutes or more off each string job.

[Irvin]

Originally Posted by tbuggle

to be honest, i think fan pattern rackets are few and far between (although I'm sure there are some places....).

as such, i wouldn't buy a machine based on that unless you KNOW you are gonna be stringing them alot.

nonetheless, I'd still get swivel bases. but there is something to be said for glide bar clamps!!!

If you ever plan to do any ATW patterns you may be doing a clamp dance if you have glidebars. If you have long glide bars that span the width of the racket a 2 piece 50/50 is easier. Single action glide bar clamps are faster.

[hyperion99]

Originally Posted by gmatheis

Yes glide bar clamps should be a bit faster.

Think of how long it takes you to lock the base of your swivel clamps ... maybe 2 seconds ?

Remember you have to unlock the base of your clamps every time you want to move them as well ... so another 2 seconds.

So that's 4 seconds x say 35 strings to be clamped = 2 minutes+

So single action clamps could well shave 2 minutes or more off each string job.

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I agree

[hyperion99]

Originally Posted by Irvin

If you ever plan to do any ATW patterns you may be doing a clamp dance if you have glidebars. If you have long glide bars that span the width of the racket a 2 piece 50/50 is easier. Single action glide bar clamps are faster.

No I prefer to do 2 piece or 50/50 rather than 1 piece.

Other than having to use a floating clamp for fan pattern is there any drawback for using glide bars?

[Irvin]

Originally Posted by hyperion99

No I prefer to do 2 piece or 50/50 rather than 1 piece.

Other than having to use a floating clamp for fan pattern is there any drawback for using glide bars?

50/50 is one piece. There is a big difference between a 2 piece 50/50 and a 50/50.

[Irvin]

Sorry I did not address the second part of your question. Glide bar clamps do not contact the full surface of the glide bar. Inside the clamp where it rides on the bar is a small bushing built into the clamp. Constant use will cause metal to wear. If I were going to purchase a glide bar machine (I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them) it would not be a used machine nor would it be one of the lower quality machines no matter how good they appear to be at first.

[hyperion99]

Originally Posted by Irvin

50/50 is one piece. There is a big difference between a 2 piece 50/50 and a 50/50.

I do 2 piece 50/50.

What's the difference between 1 piece 50/50 vs 2 piece 50/50?

[Irvin]

For a one piece 50/50 you center a set of strings where the mains start and string all the mains. No matter where the mains end (head or throat) you use one side to string the top half of the crosses from the center up and the other side to string the bottom half from the center down.

Try that on a Prince O Port racket and you will find out real quick it will not work.

[hyperion99]

Originally Posted by Irvin

For a one piece 50/50 you center a set of strings where the mains start and string all the mains. No matter where the mains end (head or throat) you use one side to string the top half of the crosses from the center up and the other side to string the bottom half from the center down.

Try that on a Prince O Port racket and you will find out real quick it will not work.

Thanks for the input Irvin.

[Tennusdude]

There is never any love for Stringway!

[tbuggle]

Originally Posted by Tennusdude

There is never any love for Stringway!

i think they look pretty smooth, but just not quite up my alley.