Murray literally has not broken a sweat yet..

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by axel89

some could say murray has a harder draw all depends on how you look at it but the bp saving on murray nicely done

Define "some". You mean batz and Mainad?

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

Why would he hate Federer?

gee I wonder? 17 GS's vs. 0 GS's In 2010 he said he didn't vote for Federer for the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award because of some perceived poor sportsmanship after he (TB) had beaten him at Wimby that year. Nadal won the award.

[Mainad]

Originally Posted by TheF1Bob

About time we have a dedicated thread for this joke. Like I said the other day, playing against a bunch of nobodies at this stage of a grand slam is ridiculous.

He has no excuses whatsoever if he doesn't get to the final, that's for damn sure.

Oh I get it,if he beats them, he's a disgrace because they're a bunch of nobodies! If he loses to any of them, he's a disgrace because they're just a bunch of nobodies!

Basically, you just want to hate don't you?

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Mainad

Oh I get it,if he beats them, he's a disgrace because they're a bunch of nobodies! If he loses to any of them, he's a disgrace because they're just a bunch of nobodies!

You're right of course. Players can only beat the player across the net but that won't stop people from complaining about cupcake draws. It just seems certain players are luckier than others where the draw is concerned. And yes, he should indeed make the final with the opponents he's faced. But at the same time, his lack of challenging match play may work against him. Only time will tell how it plays out.

[Steve0904]

Originally Posted by mariecon

gee I wonder? 17 GS's vs. 0 GS's In 2010 he said he didn't vote for Federer for the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award because of some perceived poor sportsmanship after he (TB) had beaten him at Wimby that year. Nadal won the award.

Then that means that everybody hates Federer, but I'm pretty sure that's not true. Regardless he's kind of got a point there. Even as a Federer fan, I say it wasn't one of his finer moments.

[TheF1Bob]

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

Define "some". You mean batz and Mainad?

There's probably a few more but yeah, not many.

Originally Posted by Mainad

Oh I get it,if he beats them, he's a disgrace because they're a bunch of nobodies! If he loses to any of them, he's a disgrace because they're just a bunch of nobodies!

Basically, you just want to hate don't you?

The fact that you consider the possibility of them nobodies defeating your hero is just downright sad.

[Sreeram]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyEE

I wouldn't say that. Murray is better on the faster HC. He just lost at WTF, which is pretty slow.

WTF is indoor, which will automatically make the balls fly faster due to less friction in air. This is just my understanding of playing indoor. May not be right.

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Steve0904

Then that means that everybody hates Federer, but I'm pretty sure that's not true. Regardless he's kind of got a point there. Even as a Federer fan, I say it wasn't one of his finer moments.

Are you kidding me? No one ever calls out Nadal for all his whining of injuries after a match. I guess people are just so used to it with Nadal that they ignore it. Federer one time says he was dealing with an injury and he gets crucified for it. No wonder he keeps his mouth shut now. If fans (or media for that matter) expect honestly during pressers they aren't getting their money's worth. Federer is just held to a higher standard that's all.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by mariecon

Are you kidding me? No one ever calls out Nadal for all his whining of injuries after a match. I guess people are just so used to it with Nadal that they ignore it. Federer one time says he was dealing with an injury and he gets crucified for it. No wonder he keeps his mouth shut now. If fans (or media for that matter) expect honestly during pressers they aren't getting their money's worth. Federer is just held to a higher standard that's all.

Federer should've given Berdych due credit....just for the sake of sportsmanship. Sometimes it's how you lose that counts more than how you win.

[Mainad]

Originally Posted by TheF1Bob

There's probably a few more but yeah, not many.

Don't include me! I've never tried to say he's got a tough draw and I feel reasonably sure batz would say the same!

Originally Posted by TheF1Bob

The fact that you consider the possibility of them nobodies defeating your hero is just downright sad.

Oh, nobodies are as nobodies do. A nobody can come really good on occasion.
Just ask Rafa!

[Sreeram]

Being a Murray fan, I am not happy with this draw. He has not been tested on these courts yet. I dint really care for Simon vs Murray match. I knew verywell Andy can beat a tired Simon any day.
Also I dont find Andy playing at his prime so far. He has different levels and uses his highest level only when needed. So not finding a need to bring his best level so far can backfire him against fed. And also the expectation of having a weaker draw.

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

Federer should've given Berdych due credit....just for the sake of sportsmanship. Sometimes it's how you lose that counts more than how you win.

If you read his press conference you will notice that the questions were mostly directed at him such as:

Q. Difficult moment, but what couldn't you do that you wanted to do? What let you down?

ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, I mean, I don't think I played poorly. But, uhm, I think he went after it. I mean, I know Berdych. I think I've played him 10 times already before. That's the way he plays, you know.

I think he's been able to play more consistent last year or so, and I was just not able to defend well enough and I didn't come up with the good stuff when I had to. So it was disappointing, you know. Yeah.

and

Q. Obviously he's going to come at you. Did you feel like you were as aggressive as you wanted to be in the match? You had some chances in the fourth set, Love?40 on his serve.

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, his mistakes and my mistakes. You know, he played well when he had to. It was brutal for me. Every time he had a chance, he took it. On the breakpoints, he played great on those.

Then when I had chances early on, I was actually not too bad. I just felt like I got the unlucky bounce once in a while, you know. 30?All he got it on the line over and over again. I just felt like I couldn't create enough chances to really get the breakthrough.

When I did have chances, I played poorly. It was just a frustrating match the way it all went.


I don't see how this is considered poor sportsmanship. He answered the questions posed to him and gave Berdych credit for outplaying him. Blown way out of proportion. If the media had asked him how he thought Berdych had played I'm sure he would have said he played well. Every question was about how he (Federer) had played. Typical case of the media fishing for something to write about.

Anyway, this is all Off Topic so that's all I'll say.

[TheF1Bob]

Originally Posted by Mainad

Don't include me! I've never tried to say he's got a tough draw and I feel reasonably sure batz would say the same!

Come on, don't be shy.

Originally Posted by Mainad

Oh, nobodies are as nobodies do. A nobody can come really good on occasion.
Just ask Rafa!

It was expected. Spanish people hate the grass.
Here's some proof;