Federer and Sampras and losses in Big Matches

[tennis_badger]

Originally Posted by Devilito

When Petros hits a 130 down the T for an Ace then Fed isn't trying. When an ATP scrub aces Fed hitting a 115 well placed then Fed is trying. When Petros hits a 95mph forehand slapshot winner down the line, Fed isn't trying. When some scrub on tour hits a lesser winner on Fed then Fed is trying?.

yes.i did watch the exo and fed was feeding pete.
thing is, there's no reason for fed to chase the balls. if he's not careful he might injured himself for no good reason.

when i play a set with my ex-hitting partner (a former pro, touring in futures, never make it big, quit early to coach, apparently he got more money that way), i can get 3-4 games. but one time i said to him, "why dont you play as if you're in an actual tournament?". sure enough i didnt even get a single point in 2 game (his serve and my serve)

[90's Clay]

Originally Posted by Devilito

this is the last match they played last year. An actual best 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-U64APs-E

Petros looked half asleep and owned Mac. So IDK what you're talking about some stupid Pro-set thing they did for laughs which Mac might have won. Big deal. They're retired and play for fun amongst each other and Pete isnt going to try hard against a 50+ year old retired player. If you actually watch the match against Fish, Fish tried and Petros was just too much for him. If you actually watch the matches and dont just post stupid results you can't judge for yourself. If you actually think that if it were life or death Petros would ever lose to Mac now you're on some serious McCrack

Pete didn't even look into the match.. And yet he just toyed with McEnroe like he was a nobody

[Devilito]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Pete didn't even look into the match.. And yet he just toyed with McEnroe like he was a nobody

kinda felt bad for Mac. I think i saw Pistol yawn a few times after hitting a few forehand winners. He let Mac hold serve a few times just to seem like it was competitive. Obviously the tour is a major grind an no retired player could come back and play such a punishing schedule match after match. But back when Petros played Fed in those exos he'd give anyone outside the top 4 seriously trouble in a non tournament single match situation.

[Cup8489]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Pete was in position to win THREE of those exos mind you (And winning in Macauc) despite being 5 years retired and Fed at the peak of his career level wise.

Go back and watch those exos.. Most of the matches WERE very competitive. You can't tell me they were just out there hitting around.

Just because there is "exhibition" in the title doesn't mean two players dont try.. Especially when its two GOAT candidates and one is out there serving bombs and playing tough and the other trying not to get embarrassed by a the former top great of the previous era

Those exos were played at much higher level then the exos we see between two current guys just looking to make an extra buck

Doesn't happen

You are absolutely hilarious. I am thoroughly enjoying your nostalgia and wine-fueled rants about your god... but rewatch this match. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K29_Hi3kPWM

Watch how easily Federer CAN get the serve back below sampras' knees. The first point in particular i want you to look at. Federer ALWAYS makes his opponents play their volleys. And he hits the tape? No, Not prime Federer. Not from a blocked reflex volley right down the center of the court.

Just watch this: Lopez was on FIRE in this match, and Federer made him hit sooo many volleys. At higher speeds, angles and pace than the Sampras match. Come ON man, you don't really think that Sampras could BEAT PRIME FEDERER, being 37 himself? DO YOU?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfWRmlarBks

If you do, you should see a psychiatrist for your delusions.

[coloskier]

Originally Posted by rofl_copter3

Sampras never would have had the opportunity to lose to Nadal in a big match on clay

And Nadal would never had the opportunity to lose to Sampras on 80's/90's speed courts, strings, rackets, and balls.