Paul Annacone vs Ivan Lendl

[kishnabe]

Annacone has the experience of helping Sampras win majors. Though he hasn't stuck gold except when Federer beat Novak at RG11 and SW19 12.

Lendl has pushed Murray past his berating barrier. Murray reacted with pushing Novak to the brink in the 12 Aussie Semifinals.

Who do you think will give the best tactics and support that will help prevail Roger or Murray in the end!?

[sportsfan1]

Don't forget Luthi. Actually, nvm, it's all Mirka

[Backhanded Compliment]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Annacone has the experience of helping Sampras win majors. Though he hasn't stuck gold except when Federer beat Novak at RG11 and SW19 12.

Lendl has pushed Murray past his berating barrier. Murray reacted with pushing Novak to the brink in the 12 Aussie Semifinals.

Who do you think will give the best tactics and support that will help prevail Roger or Murray in the end!?

Lendl is tricky, there will be surprises that we haven't anticipated...

[OldFedIsOld]

Annacone would probably be the better coach overall. However if they were to engage in fisticuffs Lendl would mop the floor with Annacone.

[NADALWON]

Originally Posted by OldFedIsOld

Annacone would probably be the better coach overall. However if they were to engage in fisticuffs Lendl would mop the floor with Annacone.

Not sure if Annacone helped Sampras much. I don't have the quote but I'm sure somebody does, of the conversation between Agassi and Sampras (outlined in Agassi's "Open" book) regarding how minor Annacone was to Sampras.

[sportsfan1]

Originally Posted by NADALWON

Not sure if Annacone helped Sampras much. I don't have the quote but I'm sure somebody does, of the conversation between Agassi and Sampras (outlined in Agassi's "Open" book) regarding how minor Annacone was to Sampras.

In Sampras's bio, IIRC, he regretted letting Annacone go, and had to fix some burnt bridges to get him back?

[BeHappy]

http://www.raw-veganism.com/SamprasH...f_Rivalry.html

What most impressed Agassi was how little Sampras leans on his coaches.
(Agassi is now coached by Brad Gilbert, who helped him climb from No. 32 to No.
1 in a little more than a year; Sampras's coach is Paul Annacone, who replaced
Tim Gullikson seven months ago when Gullikson withdrew to battle brain cancer,
for which he is now undergoing chemotherapy.) "Pete said, 'Regardless of what
Brad's done for you, you're the one who has to go out there and do it,' " Agassi
told me in the restaurant. "I said, 'I totally agree with you, but he's given me
a lot of important insights." He said, 'Like what?' And I was like, 'Well, he's
directed me here and directed me there, and given me a game plan.' And Pete was
shocked to think that's what a coach does. All he knows is someone who makes
sure his toss is on line and helps with the fundamentals on some very basic
level. But nobody tells Pete how to play. Me, it's the opposite. I have all the
shots, but what the hell do I do with them?"


when I
remind him how frequently Brad Gilbert, Agassi's notoriously gregarious coach,
brings up the fact that Gilbert is four and four in the eight times he met
Sampras as a player, he says, "[expletive] Brad!" He tries to point out the
meaninglessness of the statistic. "I mean, this [expletive] guy here is 1-0
against me," Sampras says, pointing to Annacone, who is wading in the shallow
end with a silly grin, not quite sure whether to look proud or insulted

Sampras has seemed to
value his coaches more for their company than their wisdom. When Annacone, still
wading nearby, starts expounding tennis theory, saying that a player is always
plotting to take away the amount of time his opponent has to return a shot,
either by hitting the ball hard or hitting it early, Sampras, without taking
his eye off the little poolside basketball hoop he's shooting at, just says,
"Nonsense."

[JeMar]

I find a little ironic that Murray brought in Lendl to win WIMBLEDON.

[Wilander Fan]

Originally Posted by JeMar

I find a little ironic that Murray brought in Lendl to win WIMBLEDON.

Not for me. Probably no one player in the history of the game has put more thought and effort into winning that tournament than Lendl. If I recall, he even missed a FO one year to prepare early. He changed his game to volley more, etc. Its actually odd he could not win it considering that he was not a bad volleyer, had a big serve and moved well. I think the problem was that he played in an era with great natural volleyers and the grass was very fast.

However, its a much slower and different game now and I think I see more S&V at RG than Wimbledon.

[zagor]

Originally Posted by Wilander Fan

Not for me. Probably no one player in the history of the game has put more thought and effort into winning that tournament than Lendl. If I recall, he even missed a FO one year to prepare early. He changed his game to volley more, etc. Its actually odd he could not win it considering that he was not a bad volleyer, had a big serve and moved well. I think the problem was that he played in an era with great natural volleyers and the grass was very fast.

However, its a much slower and different game now and I think I see more S&V at RG than Wimbledon.

Everybody played serve and volley at Wimbledon before 2002 (well aside from Agassi who was the best natural ball striker ever but he's a special case), it was the percentage play due to the way grass was.

[NADALWON]

Originally Posted by BeHappy

http://www.raw-veganism.com/SamprasH...f_Rivalry.html

What most impressed Agassi was how little Sampras leans on his coaches.
(Agassi is now coached by Brad Gilbert, who helped him climb from No. 32 to No.
1 in a little more than a year; Sampras's coach is Paul Annacone, who replaced
Tim Gullikson seven months ago when Gullikson withdrew to battle brain cancer,
for which he is now undergoing chemotherapy.) "Pete said, 'Regardless of what
Brad's done for you, you're the one who has to go out there and do it,' " Agassi
told me in the restaurant. "I said, 'I totally agree with you, but he's given me
a lot of important insights." He said, 'Like what?' And I was like, 'Well, he's
directed me here and directed me there, and given me a game plan.' And Pete was
shocked to think that's what a coach does. All he knows is someone who makes
sure his toss is on line and helps with the fundamentals on some very basic
level. But nobody tells Pete how to play. Me, it's the opposite. I have all the
shots, but what the hell do I do with them?"


when I
remind him how frequently Brad Gilbert, Agassi's notoriously gregarious coach,
brings up the fact that Gilbert is four and four in the eight times he met
Sampras as a player, he says, "[expletive] Brad!" He tries to point out the
meaninglessness of the statistic. "I mean, this [expletive] guy here is 1-0
against me," Sampras says, pointing to Annacone, who is wading in the shallow
end with a silly grin, not quite sure whether to look proud or insulted

Sampras has seemed to
value his coaches more for their company than their wisdom. When Annacone, still
wading nearby, starts expounding tennis theory, saying that a player is always
plotting to take away the amount of time his opponent has to return a shot,
either by hitting the ball hard or hitting it early, Sampras, without taking
his eye off the little poolside basketball hoop he's shooting at, just says,
"Nonsense."

There it is

[PCXL-Fan]

I would like to remind all you MEN that Federer would be nothing without Mirka. Behind every great man is a great woman. Mirka is at least 40% of the reason Federer is one of the greatest ever. So cut out the Mirka is a fat cow jokes because half of you making them are dorito eating hypocrites living in your moms basement.

[NADALWON]

Originally Posted by PCXL-Fan

Behind every great man is a great woman.

Old wives tail.

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by JeMar

I find a little ironic that Murray brought in Lendl to win WIMBLEDON.

Lendl brought for Murray to win US Open!

[jaggy]

I'd bring in Rosol

[sandiegoman]

Originally Posted by jaggy

I'd bring in Rosol

Rosol on grass is a goat

[Povl Carstensen]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Annacone has the experience of helping Sampras win majors. Though he hasn't stuck gold except when Federer beat Novak at RG11 and SW19 12.

Lendl has pushed Murray past his berating barrier. Murray reacted with pushing Novak to the brink in the 12 Aussie Semifinals.

Who do you think will give the best tactics and support that will help prevail Roger or Murray in the end!?

I think Annacone struck gold when Federer, after a comparatively bad run with dissapointing losses, from the fall of 11 went through a year that brought him back to nr 1.

[martini1]

One is coaching a guy close to the final 1/4 of his career, with 2 kids, and priorities in life shifting. One is coaching a hungry younger guy in prime.

Can't compare at all.

[TennisLovaLova]

On tt boards, post a poll including Roger Federer.
Regardless of the subject, Roger Federer wins.
Fact.

[Povl Carstensen]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

On tt boards, post a poll including Roger Federer.
Regardless of the subject, Roger Federer wins.
Fact.

No, for instance in a poll of who was to win AO, Djokovic came up 1. Fact.