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Join Date: Aug 2006
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If you are going to do research by asking the men of TT, you are going to fail your class.
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Seems to me you are going to need to define your terms. Sex equality in sports could mean men playing women in the same tournament. In that case, no women would be able to make a living.
On the other hand, in tennis, big tournaments have been guilted into paying women the same amount as the men. I have my suspicions that ATP tennis draws more fans ($s) than WTA tennis, but I haven't seen the numbers. When it comes to sports participation, there's no question that men are more interested in sports than women. |
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Does anyone have data on attendance for ATP and WTA events where men and women compete separately?
I know BOTW is a WTA event only, and the stadium can hold less than 2K spectators. The ATP holds an event in the bay area as well, the SAP Open. That event's held at HP Pavilion, but only about half the seating is used, so the capacity may be around 9K or so. So of the two events held in the bay area, BOTW and SAP, the men's event is held in a venue with a seating capacity more than 4X that of the women's pro event. |
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That said OP, she does have a point. Further to that end, couldn't the title of this thread have read "Please Do My Homework For Me" ? ? ?
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One of the colleges that I went to has mens and womens hockey. Tickets for mens hockey run $30-$40. There are no tickets for womens hockey. You just walk into the arena. The women were practicing one time when we were there. There was noone in the seats.
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If a student may not make his grade writing an essay in an English class because of his PC or not PC viewpoints, then our educational system is in much deeper problem than I thought..
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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OP: good luck. Are you in high school? Have you found some decent sources? I would think tennis would be an excellent sport to study because the sport is played by both women and men to relatively equal degrees of success, fame, monetary gain, etc. and the remuneration for each tour can be easily accessed and discussed in a comparison. I hope you're consulting more authoritative sources than guys called "maleyoyo" on tennis boards, anyway. Good luck to you. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Most women' sports suck compared to the men's equivalent. The exceptions might be figure skating and gymnastics.
Women's hockey? Freakin' shoot me! The Lingerie League is okay. Last edited by Fearsome Forehand : 02-03-2013 at 05:20 PM. |
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Sadly its over. The lingerie league is something of the past. Cool concept but they moved on.
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What are you…14 years old? Read my post again. |
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For instance, there are certain sports that the sports media consider "soft" for men due to the heterosexism and the homophobia of male sports journalists. For instance, men's figure skating and men's diving gets classified as "gay" because they aren't viewed as masculine sports. Men's diving gets a lot of flack because the male divers have to shave their bodies and also wear extremely tight speedos. Not that there is anything wrong with that though I remember watching the Olympics last year and let me tell you the male divers are probably the most gorgeous, and handsome men at the Olympic games. These guys are extremely fit, got great abs, muscles, and are just amazing athletes and really hot too!!! Male divers are often thought of as gay even though I am sure plenty of them are straight. Diving is actually a very difficult sport which requires a lot of core strength, leg strength to be able to do the twists and tricks. I think you can look at figure skating, not in terms of money but in terms of double standards in relation to how they are treated in the media. Figure skating is considered a "graceful" sport yet the male figure skaters are told they have to hide their homosexuality and also appear as masculine as possible. There was a controversy at the last Olympics in Vancouver a few years ago when the American Johnny Weir an openly gay skater got sixth place instead of ending up on the podium. Some skating fans say the judging at the Olympics was homophobia and the judges were punishing Johnny Weir because he is very flamboyant and he doesn't hide his queerness. Maybe you can also look at the LPGA the women golfers make less money than the male golfers. Also, there was an issue a few years ago about a transgender female a person who transitioned from male to female who wanted to compete on the women's tour. However, the LPGA had a policy that only people biologically born female are allowed to compete on the women's tour. I heard the LPGA has since changed the policy and I think transgender people can compete in women's golf. Last edited by Amelie Mauresmo : 02-05-2013 at 03:50 PM. |
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I am currently a freshman in college.
The purpose of this post was to expand my knowledge on other sports. Finding articles in the topic I'm studying is EASY when it comes to tennis, but not other sports. My essay is pretty much about a controversy and choosing a side while backing it up with evidence. I accept both sides of the argument because if I have a point against my side, I can create a counter argument to further support my claim. I think more from the female perspective would help with my essay. ...And no. I am not asking the TT community to do my assignment for me. I'm here pretty often and found a lot of the posters here know what they're talking about. I thought it would be interesting to get a few opinions while finding a few articles on other sports. I am currently proposing the topic to my professor and it was approved with flying colors thanks to the TT community (or at least the ones that helped...). Feel free to keep posting! |
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The real question is . . . what do WOMEN want from being sports spectators? (I hope the answer isn't tight pants on football players).
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Interestingly enough to me, when I watch pro tennis I watch the males in order to be amazed. . . but when I want to watch pro tennis in order to learn something useful for myself, I have always--since the Evert Era---watched the women. That's much more translatable to a mere mortal Max.
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This is your freshman year; your prof expects to see a well-written, well organized essay, covering all the fundamental aspects of how to write an essay, not some fancy tell all story about men/women equalities. I could be wrong but this is how it was for me. A lot of people struggled with it because they worried too much about style, not substance. |
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I'm a com. college instructor, and the above poster is telling you the truth here. You are in a situation in which your teacher wants to see if you can write.
God I see awful writing anymore. And the high school teachers all tell me its because of don't ask/don't tell. . . I mean, no kid left behind. Whatever. At any rate, it is to show your dispassionate logic, your reasoning and not an effort to get politically hot and emotional.
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Those last two posts are quite right.
Why not write an essay about the equality/or not of your school's men's and women's sports. Sadly, you may find both exist. Title 9 was an attempt to level the field in terms of opportunity to participate(simply stated) and succeeded in some regard. So there is "equality". But, particularly true if you're at a big school, men's football(SEC/Big Ten/etc) and basketball(ACC/Big East/etc) are the money makers that support most all other collegiate sports programs.... |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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just wrote an article on the very topic. might be of interest to OP
http://indecentxposure.com/grind/3f6...948fe612d1962/ an interesting sport to look into is motorsports, where men and women compete side by side at almost all the levels. in a way, women racing drivers have a biological ADVANTAGE compared to men of similar skill levels due to being shorter/lighter in general. not saying that they have access to the same quantity and quality of opportunities, though. http://indecentxposure.com/grind/d05...c50117860a9ac/
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