How serious are we ??

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by TCF

By the way BB...enough with the weight gain and lifting, thats not his issue. He hits fine, he is strong enough.

His issues I told you from the scouts are he lacks tactics, strategy, and anticipation. Thats not going to come from his fitness training.

I would agree with you on the second part strategy but that is being gained Every-time he steps on the court , this is something I said we would be lacking cause of lack of chasing points , these other kids out there from all there tournaments which has usually in some cases has doubled our schedule will have this advantage but like anything I am sure now that he is more mature these things will be learned quickly and we are way ahead physically .

I believe his play at the OB was strategy wise was horrible but he could still mow through some of the best kids from around the globe because we have focused on the more important part .

Try this with your daughter get a weight vest and have her do her same workout if its 1 hr or 2 don't take it off the whole time add just 6 lbs see how she holds up through the whole workout also if you can find some shoes that add 2 inches to her height once again make her play the whole time and tell me how she does .Then you will have and idea of what we go through but we still put wins up !!!

[jmnk]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

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He learned a tough one in Mexico the guy he was playing double faulted match point ,everybody started clapping ,both players started walking forward only to have the ref overrule , DB began arguing with the ref and had and exchange where he fronted the other player up and look to throw blows with him for taunting him over the call then came out in the 3 rd crushing the ball and lost the match , 7 5 in the 3rd ,"anger" and power don't mix , to add insult to injury the other guy went on to win the tourney ,he was able to see this guy had no fear of him like most jrs do on court.

This i heard from the coach who was with him down there ,kinda funny to me but the other coach said had he got through he was home free and these are the lessons I hope don't have to be learned over and over and will be good .

do they have different scoring system in Mexico? According to ITF site the score was 5-7 6-3 5-7 (btw. good result, very close match). Given that score - how is it possible to have a match point, lose it, --and-- "then came out in the 3 rd crushing the ball and lost the match , 7 5 in the 3rd"??

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by TCF

andfor.....never said anything about Boluda besides that I saw him play years ago and he was very good back then. Never predicted a thing for him. Have no idea where BB even got that.

If anyone is "moving the bar" its you and BB. You guys keep lowering it or just changing its meaning. It went from "next Nadal" "I know how to raise a #1 pro player" to "will be #1 ranked 18 in a year" to "will win the Zoo at age 16" to "juniors don't matter" "will make our move at age 17" to "futures are not a good indicator" to "going to take some time then make our move".

since I don't delete post can you go pull up where I said we would win Zoo at 16 , yes we were there to win but please pull this up , or that he would be the no.1 player although that is our goal why would you aim for anything less ,as for making our move it has started and he is 16 we are starting to venture into the futures and up but please bring up these quotes you say I have made .

we know you said these crazy good Europeans would crush us if they ever played us but it was quite the opposite my kid didnt walk off the court crying at the OB and when he lost he was made to go run a mile

[WoodIndoors]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

Coach #1: How are your player's serve and forehand developing? I don't think he can make it counter punching. How do you make the transition from counter puncher to aggressive all courter? Are you willing to sacrifice some wins to go to a more offensive style? Are you willing to bring someone is just as a consultant to work on a more aggressive game plan? I'm serious.

Now THIS is an important point.

And also I'd be more than happy to hear your ideas how to start to do that transition age 10-12

I've put them play points where an (smart) attacker get 2 points when succeeding...other ideas?

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by jmnk

do they have different scoring system in Mexico? According to ITF site the score was 5-7 6-3 5-7 (btw. good result, very close match). Given that score - how is it possible to have a match point, lose it, --and-- "then came out in the 3 rd crushing the ball and lost the match , 7 5 in the 3rd"??

You are correct asked him about it the argument happen in the 1st set over the guy telling the coach there with DB to F-off then on match point at 4 5 in the 3 rd is where another argument ensued with the ref but either way he lost cause of his ridiculous attitude , again I heard it second hand and didn't hear anything other then getting mad and losing

[chalkflewup]

Originally Posted by andfor

You've done it with nearly every tournament. I won't list them. So there, nanny nanny boo boo.

I'm not saying your position is wrong, and I'm not saying BB is right. It's just the same old argument for the last 4-5 years. And you make good points about college. We know your being realistic in your own way. But BB knows the risk reward model here. Lord knows you've beat it into him.

Like telling someone they won't win the lottery, you'll probably be right. Then again maybe BB has the lottery ticket. Let it play out. You can type your fingers off and it won't change anything.
Let it go man.

BTW. Tennis parents have nothing on Hockey parents. If there was a show Hockey parents would get produced first.

Totally agree with the "let it play out" comment. All the Monday morning quarterback bunk and crystal ball joo-joo that transpires here is so counter-productive.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

Coach #1: How are your player's serve and forehand developing? I don't think he can make it counter punching. How do you make the transition from counter puncher to aggressive all courter? Are you willing to sacrifice some wins to go to a more offensive style? Are you willing to bring someone is just as a consultant to work on a more aggressive game plan? I'm serious.

As for counter puncher he has never been that he has always had and aggressive style we have for the last year or so been having him play more defense cause the offensive style is already there , as for the serve we just spent 2 months reworking it and will continue to make adjustments along the way , his forehand also , I know you may get this , it's a work in process ,seriously when someone continues to put on size it's a real pain in the rear for development , coming from a sport where 4 pounds can take away your knock out power or decrease your speed its easier to accept what I am dealing with .

As for bring on a consultant we have a place in Bradenton that he attends and when he is there we work with one of the top coaches at least 2 to 3 times a week and his staff but as for here in Ca there is only one other coach I trust !

[ClarkC]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

we when a futures or 2 this year what will be said heres my guess ,the field was weak , most of the players were burnt out , maybe the players he played were sick ! on and on

I am rooting for DB to have a pro career, but if he wins 1 or 2 Futures this year I will be astonished, and I certainly won't try to hide my astonishment by claiming that the field was weak or any of that nonsense. A Futures is very hard to win.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by chalkflewup

Totally agree with the "let it play out" comment. All the Monday morning quarterback bunk and crystal ball joo-joo that transpires here is so counter-productive.

Hey Chalk talk to your kid about the Easter Bowl and doubles with DB he says he wants to play doubs at Carson and Easter , give me a call later after 2 pm Ca time

[chalkflewup]

Originally Posted by ClarkC

I am rooting for DB to have a pro career, but if he wins 1 or 2 Futures this year I will be astonished, and I certainly won't try to hide my astonishment by claiming that the field was weak or any of that nonsense. A Futures is very hard to win.

Everybody is rooting for DB, I just hate it when it gets ugly here.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by ClarkC

I am rooting for DB to have a pro career, but if he wins 1 or 2 Futures this year I will be astonished, and I certainly won't try to hide my astonishment by claiming that the field was weak or any of that nonsense. A Futures is very hard to win.

Clark thanks and will see what happens a d of course I know you won't come up with some ridiculous reason why he won , you get it and again thanks , as for all our other young guys out there testing the futures I really am rooting for them we need it here in the USA

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by chalkflewup

Everybody is rooting for DB, I just hate it when it gets ugly here.

Come on Chalk we need the haters on here to motivate as much as the fans who encourage and if it gets a bit ugly it's all good , I see ugly every morning in the mirror so I am used to it !

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

As for counter puncher he has never been that he has always had and aggressive style we have for the last year or so been having him play more defense cause the offensive style is already there , as for the serve we just spent 2 months reworking it and will continue to make adjustments along the way , his forehand also , I know you may get this , it's a work in process ,seriously when someone continues to put on size it's a real pain in the rear for development , coming from a sport where 4 pounds can take away your knock out power or decrease your speed its easier to accept what I am dealing with .

As for bring on a consultant we have a place in Bradenton that he attends and when he is there we work with one of the top coaches at least 2 to 3 times a week and his staff but as for here in Ca there is only one other coach I trust !

I really did not see that from him when he played Peliwo. Maybe he wasn't confident playing the best player in the field, a much older player. What I saw from him was typical of a top junior. Hit hard in spots, make every ball, play offense sometimes. No clear consistent pattern of attack and game plan to win the match. Like I say all the time to my kids: your are not playing tennis you are hitting a ball back and forth. Tennis means thinking, tactics, strategy, and most important- adjustments. By the time my players adjust- they have already lost the match. He needs a clear concise pro level game plan for every match.

[TCF]

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[ga tennis]

Coaching32years ,Thats the problem with almost all of the juniors i see play. They do not start playing the pro style game until its too late. My 11 year old daughter plays a pro style game already. She loses alot now but we are building for the future. She replicates professional patterns and hits full out on every ball.The problem with teaching this game is parents want results early and dont see the big picture. In my opinion its a must that kids learn to play this way at a very young age if they wanna have any chance to make it on the next level. I see 99.99% of the girls 12 and under play just defending and running down balls.

[ga tennis]

I do think with Deits size and physical tools he still may have a shot. If Brad can get with the right guy he could have a chance to be a money making pro.(nothing against Brad because what hes done is very impressive) My friend started working with a guy who was around 300 in the world but he was just a grinder.In less than 6 months he transformed his game and he got top 60 in the world. I think if Brad finds that right guy to consult Deit he has as good a shot as any other US player.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

I really did not see that from him when he played Peliwo. Maybe he wasn't confident playing the best player in the field, a much older player. What I saw from him was typical of a top junior. Hit hard in spots, make every ball, play offense sometimes. No clear consistent pattern of attack and game plan to win the match. Like I say all the time to my kids: your are not playing tennis you are hitting a ball back and forth. Tennis means thinking, tactics, strategy, and most important- adjustments. By the time my players adjust- they have already lost the match. He needs a clear concise pro level game plan for every match.

well one of the things I have learned about tennis is to watch a player over at least 4 to 6 matches before I make and judgement on him and how he plays , somethings will show right away , the way he hits , his favorite weapon ,ect but styles of players sometimes shut a player down , Peliwo ,the moment may have played a part, next big stage OB played extremely aggressive hugged the baseline over powered players , will just have to see what happens but if your here in Ca would love you to bring over this player you have that hits big and see how he does against your player who was taught by you , maybe we can learn something ?

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

well one of the things I have learned about tennis is to watch a player over at least 4 to 6 matches before I make and judgement on him and how he plays , somethings will show right away , the way he hits , his favorite weapon ,ect but styles of players sometimes shut a player down , Peliwo ,the moment may have played a part, next big stage OB played extremely aggressive hugged the baseline over powered players , will just have to see what happens but if your here in Ca would love you to bring over this player you have that hits big and see how he does against your player who was taught by you , maybe we can learn something ?

You are absolutely right. Have to see a player at least 3 or 4 matches to make any judgements- so what I said about US Open not fair. But.......
Ga tennis is right. You have done an incredible job. To get to to the next level he needs a strategy, tactics guru in addition to you. I just watched Querey in San Jose. He knows exactly when to go high and heavy, when to flatten it out, when to go down the line, when to pull the trigger. Has to be taught- need a guru.

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by ga tennis

Coaching32years ,Thats the problem with almost all of the juniors i see play. They do not start playing the pro style game until its too late. My 11 year old daughter plays a pro style game already. She loses alot now but we are building for the future. She replicates professional patterns and hits full out on every ball.The problem with teaching this game is parents want results early and dont see the big picture. In my opinion its a must that kids learn to play this way at a very young age if they wanna have any chance to make it on the next level. I see 99.99% of the girls 12 and under play just defending and running down balls.

You are a brilliant coach. Much smarter than I ever was. I was too hung up on results in the 12's and 14's. The sooner you get them playing the pro style the better. Those balls that are now flying against the back fence will start going in and she will have a serve, an overhead, and especially volleys.
She will be a force guaranteed.