How serious are we ??

[WoodIndoors]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Soianka I was shocked I actually went through the top 10 ITF players to see who won all these high level tourneys that prove you can be successful on the tour and there are 4 players on there that have turned pro that I know of and they haven't won a tourney this year and the ones they did win were these grade 4's which is not a high level , so TCF should get a hold of them and tell them to quit and go to college !! HAHA

Realistically speaking some of them probably are not pro potential. Not enough talent. Like some many times said most of the top ITF won't become money makers.

[TCF]

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[BMC9670]

What's the point of keeping this going thread after thread, week after week, year after year? TCF, #1Coach - YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO AGREE! Period. Why not take all the hours you spend arguing about this and put it towards something productive. It's like you're children who have to get the last word in. Just let the other do their thing and time will play it out. You're certainly not helping each other, that's for sure. Insane waste of time!

[coaching32yrs]

Change of topic. I'm bummed out. Player I know since juniors now at Duke blew out her elbow. Having Tommy John surgery. Wow. #1, TCF, Ga Tennis: Can a tennis player come back from that?

[jgmellor]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

Change of topic. I'm bummed out. Player I know since juniors now at Duke blew out her elbow. Having Tommy John surgery. Wow. #1, TCF, Ga Tennis: Can a tennis player come back from that?

In Stunning Tennis Comeback, Scars Show a Career Arc

[WoodIndoors]

Originally Posted by BMC9670

What's the point of keeping this going thread after thread, week after week, year after year? TCF, #1Coach - YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO AGREE! Period. Why not take all the hours you spend arguing about this and put it towards something productive. It's like you're children who have to get the last word in. Just let the other do their thing and time will play it out. You're certainly not helping each other, that's for sure. Insane waste of time!

I do not think so.

TFC is just doing same to #1C as Toni did to Rafa.

Toni kept and kept moving the bar, driving Rafa grazy.

Its called sparring.

All those requests to turn this forum solely to a yes men club...

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by WoodIndoors

All those requests to turn this forum solely to a yes men club...

Not yes men club - but share some ideas to help each other - not keep tearing each other done with the same argument over and over and over.... and over......... and over...........

[BMC9670]

..... and over.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by BMC9670

What's the point of keeping this going thread after thread, week after week, year after year? TCF, #1Coach - YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO AGREE! Period. Why not take all the hours you spend arguing about this and put it towards something productive. It's like you're children who have to get the last word in. Just let the other do their thing and time will play it out. You're certainly not helping each other, that's for sure. Insane waste of time!

Sorry if that is how you feel , also is we have bummed you out sorry but I like the debate it has 2 philosophy that are opposite of each other and I believe for those dealing with young players they can come here and have the choice of hearing 2 different so-called coaches say what works to get your player with Pro-tential or get them with in line for a D1 ride

So far I have completed 1 of those explained and posted video over the years how to build a successful player "top recruit",, have never looked at Jr results as and indicator of the journey or considered those have say so on weather you can become a pro .

TCf has shown no video , give many reasons why he knows what it takes , and has been wrong more then half the time about what were capable of , also he has shown no proof of any player he has developed .

So I believe its healthy and informative for those on here to hear what works and what don't and let them decide what path to take .

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by WoodIndoors

I do not think so.

TFC is just doing same to #1C as Toni did to Rafa.

Toni kept and kept moving the bar, driving Rafa grazy.

Its called sparring.

All those requests to turn this forum solely to a yes men club...

You are correct I hear TCF's teaching theory's and has us go harder at what we believe and therefore we get better so I believe he and his philosophy's can be very helpful to your game and success if you do the opposite at a high level , so for me personally I hope he keeps pointing out how we will fail but I am sure Borna isnt happy with him <haha

[Misterbill]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

TCf has shown no video , give many reasons why he knows what it takes , and has been wrong more then half the time about what were capable of , also he has shown no proof of any player he has developed .

OK.

Taking a positive rather than a negative approach, what type of video would tend to support or detract from any training philosophy for pro/college prospects that has been discussed here. Maybe some poster can find what it is you are looking for if you can provide some details. Personally, I don't think any such video exists, but I stand to be proven wrong.

If it is really about the training philosophy and not about you, I look forward to the answers.

[mikej]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

Change of topic. I'm bummed out. Player I know since juniors now at Duke blew out her elbow. Having Tommy John surgery. Wow. #1, TCF, Ga Tennis: Can a tennis player come back from that?

is this Kahan? big loss if so - a great tennis talent and an even better competitor, so much fun to watch

[jgmellor]

Originally Posted by mikej

is this Kahan? big loss if so - a great tennis talent and an even better competitor, so much fun to watch

It is Kahan

[mikej]

damn...

make that two bigtime losses for what looked like a team that could take down a second national championship this year

totally crummy luck for her - awesome determined grinder, you could always tell that she carried herself with the attitude that she was never going to let herself lose a close match, and she rarely did

hopefully if she applies that same attitude to her rehab she gets back out there some day - best of luck to her

[maggmaster]

major league pitchers have come back to close to top form after right?

[Alohajrtennis]

Originally Posted by maggmaster

major league pitchers have come back to close to top form after right?

Yes, Tommy John for instance. While no surgery is ever routine, there are very good odds she could come back as strong as before. Right now, there are 50 current major leauge pitchers who have had the surgery.

[TCF]

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[TCF]

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[Misterbill]

Originally Posted by Soianka

Oh stop it.

You have no idea whether this boy will make it as a MM pro tennis player or not.

With every success this kid has you keep moving the bar.

Poster A says that based on the player's results to date and the player's reputed academic abilities, he projects that college would be the best option for the player.

Poster B says he is the number 1 coach and he knows best that the player projects to be a successful pro, and that going straight to the pros is the best option for the player.

Poster C (you) says "oh stop it" to Poster A and that Poster A is moving the bar.

There seems to be something wrong with this picture

[Soianka]

Originally Posted by Misterbill

Poster A says that based on the player's results to date and the player's reputed academic abilities, he projects that college would be the best option for the player.

Poster B says he is the number 1 coach and he knows best that the player projects to be a successful pro, and that going straight to the pros is the best option for the player.

Poster C (you) says "oh stop it" to Poster A and that Poster A is moving the bar.

There seems to be something wrong with this picture

You seem confused, as usual.

TCF, just a few short months ago, was mocking the dad and saying that the boy would not be recruited at top Division I schools ...no top DI coaches could possibly want DB etc, etc.

A few months before that, TCF said the boy was definitely not DI material at all and would be lucky to play DII tennis.

Also TCF told us how his 7 year old would dominate 12 year old tennis and beat the #1 twelve year old; now the girl (not surprisingly) has been losing at low level tournaments to people much lower ranked than #1.

Never is there any humility or admission that perhaps these bold predictions of his were wrong and perhaps he is not able to predict these things with any accuracy.