What NTRP level would you say each of these two players are?

[dizzlmcwizzl]

The grey shirt guys bio says he has an ITN rating of 4 ... which would correspond to a 4.5 according to the ITN chart.

I would say that either of these guys would have no problem finding a 4.5 team that would take them ... so all of this makes them at least a 4.5 maybe a low 5.0.

[AbsoluTennis]

where can u see the ITN rating?

and ITN in which country?

[dizzlmcwizzl]

Originally Posted by AbsoluTennis

where can u see the ITN rating?

and ITN in which country?

I googled this ... Summer 2012 Knockout Mens Final ... London

from that page I picked the guys name ... rdrew ... his bio comes up everything matches.

[luvforty]

can't rate them on the same level...
score was 7-5 6-0.... grey figured out the blue's fh is crap.
2 guys are 0.5 ntrp apart.

[rkelley]

Are we still playing?

5.0 or so I'd guess. They're hitting hard, form is good, but not perfect. To anyone saying 4.0 because they're not consistent enough, I'd say put them up against a 4.0. These guys won't have to get many balls in because not many will be coming back against a 4.0.

[luvforty]

no definitely not 4.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GADzolMscAs

[OHBH]

Originally Posted by luvforty

no definitely not 4.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GADzolMscAs

Yeah this video is definitely not 4.0. Poor example, strong 3.0's perhaps. OP's video is 4.5-5.0

[D-money]

Originally Posted by OHBH

Yeah this video is definitely not 4.0. Poor example, strong 3.0's perhaps. OP's video is 4.5-5.0

Agreed. I think NTRP ratings are effected by the competition in an area as well. Any time a team from my area goes to districts they are usually crushed by a team from the Bay or from Sacramento that seems like they're "sandbaggers" but really their area just has stronger players so better competition. Usually they have a record at their given level locally that makes sense but when they face computer rated players at their same level from other areas where there isn't the same competition they crush them and the people go home feeling like they've been cheated. I've done a little research because I've been that guy before.
That said the guys in the original video could definitely make the 4.5 team where I play but they might get stomped at districts.

[dominikk1985]

Originally Posted by TimothyO

No higher than 4.5 (US). Way too many wildly unforced errors to be any higher than that. They lack the patience and discipline to develop the point and the skill to recognize a true opportunity ball. The kids that I watched last weekend at a USTA nationals tourney could easily beat them. The strokes certainly look impressive on the surface (oh, look how hard they hit!) but they're just not consistent enough to be higher than 4.5 (there goes another easy shot long or into the net).

I would think that too. they hit big (certainly bigger than the average 4.5) and make some good shots but they also make tons of UEs). maybe they overhit a little for their level?

[Bergboy123]

It appears to me, that in London they:
-Play man tennis
-Are fearless
-View the return of serve as something to swing 100% every single time
-Don't scream/pump fists (even on good shots!)/whine/yell at themselves

[jibinhe]

Originally Posted by Bergboy123

It appears to me, that in London they:
-Play man tennis
-Are fearless
-View the return of serve as something to swing 100% every single time
-Don't scream/pump fists (even on good shots!)/whine/yell at themselves

thumb up

[WildVolley]

My guess is going to be 5.0, but there's a lot of unforced errors in that video. Here's my reasoning. I've played against 4.5s and 5.0s (computer ranked). These guys hit bigger, but the 5.0 guy was definitely more consistent than either of these guys and would probably give them trouble, because he'd just topspin it in until they hit a winner or strong forcing shot.

My only question on that video is if the aces were edited out. I don't think the video showed a single ace, at least during the first part I watched.

[max pl]

oh man if these guys are 5.0s i must be like a 7 at least.

[rkelley]

Perhaps the quality of the shots from one player has an effect on the quality and consistency of the shots from the other player?

[rkelley]

Originally Posted by luvforty

no definitely not 4.0 (referring to OP's video I assume - rk)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GADzolMscAs

Originally Posted by OHBH

Yeah this video is definitely not 4.0. Poor example, strong 3.0's perhaps. OP's video is 4.5-5.0

Just curious if the title of the video about these two players being bench mark 4.0 players factored into your rating of strong 3.0?

FWIW, they look about 4.0 to me.

[Torres]

Originally Posted by TimothyO

The strokes certainly look impressive on the surface (oh, look how hard they hit!)

The surface is hard court acrylic (Green Set Grand Prix) which is pretty much the same sort of hard court acrylic used at the US Open (Decoturf).....

Originally Posted by Bergboy123

It appears to me, that in London they:
-Play man tennis
-Are fearless
-View the return of serve as something to swing 100% every single time
-Don't scream/pump fists (even on good shots!)/whine/yell at themselves

LOL!! That made me laugh.

[LeeD]

They can play at 4.5 thru 5.5.
What they really are won't be revealed until we know their tournament history.

[luvforty]

Originally Posted by LeeD

They can play at 4.5 thru 5.5.
What they really are won't be revealed until we know their tournament history.

5.5 no way

also, the 'hitting hard' part is exaggerated by the indoor echo.... those balls are really not that big, and depths are not too good either.

blue 4.5, grey 5.0

also about the aces, maybe edited out, but these serves are really not that big to generate too many aces anyway.... blue's serve is actually pretty bad.

[LeeD]

Don't ADD onto what you read!
Understand as it's written.
Nobody called them real 5.5's.
A 4.5 can play in A/Open, 5.5, and WIN some rounds in Q's and futures.
But he's no way a real open player.

[sureshs]

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