Murray Calls For More Blood Doping Tests

[Fedex]

Originally Posted by SLD76

im just the messenger, dont like the words take it up with murray.

Don't worry. I won't shoot you.

[tennis_pro]

The guilty shout the loudest.

And if Murry wants more blood doping tests he should start from himself.

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by Fedex

Don't worry. I won't shoot you.

Im relieved. I was truly fearful for my life for a second.

[batz]

Alumnium foil producers must love this website.

[batz]

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

The guilty shout the loudest.

And if Murry wants more blood doping tests he should start from himself.

Er, where is murray looking to exclude himself from testing?

[raging]

Originally Posted by batz

Alumnium foil producers must love this website.

lol...almost speechless!

after reading all this drivel...flaming after Muzza...

some people here have definitely lost the plot.

Thanks Batz, you made my day!

[norbac]

Originally Posted by SLD76

add this to the pot, and this was a story Id never heard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ten...ederation.html


"

Murray has made no secret of his dislike of the tough anti-doping rules that require athletes to provide detailed information of their whereabouts every day of the year. Under the revised World Anti-Doping Agency code, athletes must also nominate an hour every day when they will be accessible for testing.

When the new rules were introduced in 2009, Murray complained: “I don’t think anyone should have to tell people where they are every single day.”

He added: “I just wish that the out-of-competition testing was done in the off season and then they just test us at every single tournament. Then that’s fine, we could get tested 30 times a year. I think that’s enough to know whether someone’s trying to cheat or not.”


Thats a curious sentence(bolded) for the writer to use for a guy who doesnt routinely complain about doping controls.

And doesnt andy's statement seem odd considering he wants even tighter doping controls now?

I think that part is just as important as the one you bolded....

[Djokodal Fan]

Murray calls for more doping test - "oh he is guilty, that's why he calls for more"

Federer calls for more doping test - "Greatest champion to set foot on mother earth, clean as a newly washed carpet"

Good logic by Pederer fans.

Someone won 17 slams and raked up 10 majors in 3 years without getting caught. The true pioneer of of doping in tennis!

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by batz

Er, where is murray looking to exclude himself from testing?

Where did I say that Murray is looking to exclude himself from testing. What is more, he should serve as an exemplary model for the rest of the field.

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by Djokodal Fan

Murray calls for more doping test - "oh he is guilty, that's why he calls for more"

Federer calls for more doping test - "Greatest champion to set foot on mother earth, clean as a newly washed carpet"

Good logic by Pederer fans.

Someone won 17 slams and raked up 10 majors in 3 years without getting caught. The true pioneer of of doping in tennis!

Djokovic is up for the task, though. He wants to grind himself to 17 majors. Using PED's too for the matter.

[Fiji]

Originally Posted by kalyan4fedever

he is suspecting djoker

This.

Originally Posted by mariecon

It makes him look good asking for more testing

Murray suspects that Federer and himself are the only top 5 players that are clean.

[batz]

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

Where did I say that Murray is looking to exclude himself from testing. What is more, he should serve as an exemplary model for the rest of the field.

You said:

And if Murry wants more blood doping tests he should start from himself.

Maybe I've mis-understood you? Did you mean that Murray shouuld be an exemplar on this? If so, I agree with you. But so should the rest of the top dogs - why do you think just Murray should set an e.g.?

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by batz

Maybe I've mis-understood you? Did you mean that Murray shouuld be an exemplar on this? If so, I agree with you. But so should the rest of the top dogs - why do you think just Murray should set an e.g.?

Cause it wouldn't make sense. So Murray is asking for more doping tests and then he should back up "let's start with Djokovic and Federer". Doesn't make sense.

[batz]

Originally Posted by tennis_pro

Cause it wouldn't make sense. So Murray is asking for more doping tests and then he should back up "let's start with Djokovic and Federer". Doesn't make sense.

Apologies, but I'm still not sure what you're getting at mate. Murray has said that everyone should be tested more, including more blood tests - do you disagree with what he said? If so - why?

[*Sparkle*]

I was wondering if the suggestion was that Andy should start doing the testing himself! Now, I appreciate he's clearly read up on the subject lately, but I'm not sure he's qualified for that. There may also be a few conflict of interest concerns!

Are people really that unimaginative that they cannot understand why a person can find it annoying to be woken up in the early hours, get their bits out in front of a stranger to wee on demand, and then answer questions that appear silly? One of his complaints was being made to write down his name and address, when they'd turned up at his house in the first place. I can actually understand why they do that, but if it's not explained, then it's going to seem a waste of time. More so when it's urine testing, and hardly anyone is caught through urine testing, and when a person is caught red handed with the drugs themselves, they get let off with a lesser ban.

I see whinging about the testing as similar to moaning about airport security. Complaining that they don't have enough staff on, or that the staff were taking advantage of the power, or that you don't think they are even looking properly at the X-ray screen, and who would bomb a flight from x to y anyway, doesn't make you a terrorist. Finding it annoying that you've got to tell strangers where you are each day, or not thinking the system is effective, or that doping isn't enough of an issue to justify the inconvenience doesn't make you a doper.

Equally, is it that hard to believe that players, like members of the public, are realising just what can be done with PEDs and that the current system is ineffective, and so they don't need to be doping, or get caught doping for their reputation to be tarnished, or for their sport's image to be negatively effected? Once they've worked that out, is it surprising that some of them are going to request more is done when asked about it?

You need to be either very unimaginative, or a signed up member of the tin-foil hat brigade to find these things "odd", or proof of anything except that change is afoot.

It's a shame that it appears to be the players that are driving this change, but they are the ones with the most to lose if tennis becomes blighted. I won't blame those who are slow to react, as not all tennis will have been following the Lance Armstrong case closely, but it is only a matter of time before they all twig how serious it is, and that something needs to be done.

Offering to give up some prize money isn't that big a deal. If sponsors start to feel nervous around the sport, they'll suffer financially, but it does no harm to get that view on the record and to make it harder for the authorities to presume cost is an excuse for inaction.

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by *Sparkle*

I was wondering if the suggestion was that Andy should start doing the testing himself! Now, I appreciate he's clearly read up on the subject lately, but I'm not sure he's qualified for that. There may also be a few conflict of interest concerns!

Are people really that unimaginative that they cannot understand why a person can find it annoying to be woken up in the early hours, get their bits out in front of a stranger to wee on demand, and then answer questions that appear silly? One of his complaints was being made to write down his name and address, when they'd turned up at his house in the first place. I can actually understand why they do that, but if it's not explained, then it's going to seem a waste of time. More so when it's urine testing, and hardly anyone is caught through urine testing, and when a person is caught red handed with the drugs themselves, they get let off with a lesser ban.

I see whinging about the testing as similar to moaning about airport security. Complaining that they don't have enough staff on, or that the staff were taking advantage of the power, or that you don't think they are even looking properly at the X-ray screen, and who would bomb a flight from x to y anyway, doesn't make you a terrorist. Finding it annoying that you've got to tell strangers where you are each day, or not thinking the system is effective, or that doping isn't enough of an issue to justify the inconvenience doesn't make you a doper.

Equally, is it that hard to believe that players, like members of the public, are realising just what can be done with PEDs and that the current system is ineffective, and so they don't need to be doping, or get caught doping for their reputation to be tarnished, or for their sport's image to be negatively effected? Once they've worked that out, is it surprising that some of them are going to request more is done when asked about it?

You need to be either very unimaginative, or a signed up member of the tin-foil hat brigade to find these things "odd", or proof of anything except that change is afoot.

It's a shame that it appears to be the players that are driving this change, but they are the ones with the most to lose if tennis becomes blighted. I won't blame those who are slow to react, as not all tennis will have been following the Lance Armstrong case closely, but it is only a matter of time before they all twig how serious it is, and that something needs to be done.

Offering to give up some prize money isn't that big a deal. If sponsors start to feel nervous around the sport, they'll suffer financially, but it does no harm to get that view on the record and to make it harder for the authorities to presume cost is an excuse for inaction.

you arent going to catch dopers by meeting them at noon on a day of their choosing.

i thought the rules were to be contacted between 6am and 11pm?

[raging]

Originally Posted by SLD76

you arent going to catch dopers by meeting them at noon on a day of their choosing.

i thought the rules were to be contacted between 6am and 11pm?

yes & most put down 6am as it is at the start of the day...
thats when the testers come!

[*Sparkle*]

Originally Posted by SLD76

you arent going to catch dopers by meeting them at noon on a day of their choosing.

i thought the rules were to be contacted between 6am and 11pm?

You aren't going to catch them by turning up at 6am either.

I'm not saying there should be no early morning visits, same as I don't think they should ditch airport security because newspapers have managed to smuggle dodgy packages past that security. However, I'm realistic to accept that drug testing and having to state where you will be each day will be annoying and players will inevitably moan about it.

Trying to make something out of players having a whinge about something that would annoy 99.9% of the population isn't just missing the point, it is diverting attention from the real issues.

[Mick3391]

Originally Posted by raging

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/21330805

IT looks like this is gaining momentum...
some players do want increased blood testing.
It seems to be all about the cost of testing.

It would be funny if they did testing after each match, and the quality of tennis dropped immediately!

That happened at I think the 89 Mr. Olympia, they announced testing, and everyone was smaller, and the smaller guys did better.

I don't understand all the fuss, these guy are innocent until proven guilty, they simply need even one season of testing, quality drops we know.

[Tiebreak100]

Murray is only responding to questions on a topical issue from inquisitive journalists, but I sense his suspicion is growing. His mother recently re-tweeted a comment from a journalist with regard to the Fuentes case and his association with Spanish tennis players, which I found rather interesting. I suspect team Murray might continue to voice their concerns with regard to the poor doping controls in the coming months. I hope Federer follows suit. Momentum is key.