Can the talk of talk of top d3 schools being better than unranked d1 schools end? - Page 4

Clemson_tennis · 02-20-2013, 07:42 PM

just looked at Md Eastern Shore's results from last year.

drfrankfree · 02-21-2013, 08:04 AM

Carnegie Mellon(D3) defeats Bucknell( D1) 5-4

ClarkC · 02-21-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hodgey20

I play at the D3 level, by no means are we a top level DIII team, but I would say we are a competitive DIII team. We have played some top tier teams in D3, and I would have to say that any DI team would be heavily favored to beat a DIII team. Its just two different levels. I do love playing DIII tennis and I have had a ton of fun doing so but Im not going to sit here and say that a DIII school could compete at a DI level.

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Originally Posted by Hodgey20

thats why I say that a D1 is favored over any D3.. just two different levels.

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Originally Posted by drfrankfree

Carnegie Mellon(D3) defeats Bucknell( D1) 5-4

Enough said.

Coach Carter · 03-18-2013, 12:48 PM

http://tennisrecruiting.net/list.asp...=conf&extra=D3

To see just some of the studs that are going D3 of late, here is a link. I know many of the people who discount D3 will still do it and many won't understand the depth. Some of these won't pan out, will flame out, or will back out and of course some others not on the lists will end up at other D3's.

andfor · 03-18-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Carter

http://tennisrecruiting.net/list.asp...=conf&extra=D3

To see just some of the studs that are going D3 of late, here is a link. I know many of the people who discount D3 will still do it and many won't understand the depth. Some of these won't pan out, will flame out, or will back out and of course some others not on the lists will end up at other D3's.

And this is just one of the small reasons D1 and D2 schools have to look far and wide for talent to compete, i.e. international players. Many of these kids can't be backfilled at D1 and D2 schools by fellow American players. However, the good news is there's so many options for American kids to play college tennis.

Overdrive · 03-18-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by andfor

And this is just one of the small reasons D1 and D2 schools have to look far and wide for talent to compete, i.e. international players. Many of these kids can't be backfilled at D1 and D2 schools by fellow American players. However, the good news is there's so many options for American kids to play college tennis.

But for players like me, I want to go play tennis at a college where I'm WANTED and not NEEDED. However, since there are hundreds-thousands of male players out there, I guess I can't be picky eh?

andfor · 03-18-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdrive

But for players like me, I want to go play tennis at a college where I'm WANTED and not NEEDED. However, since there are hundreds-thousands of male players out there, I guess I can't be picky eh?

If a junior player locks into one school then yes the opportunity may be limited. If a kid is open to play college tennis at many schools and levels of play, there's a place for about every U.S. kid out there to play college tennis.

You can be picky if your open to a lot of options.

Did you talk with that coach yet?

Overdrive · 03-18-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by andfor

If a junior player locks into on school then yes the opportunity may be limited. If a kid is open to play college tennis at many schools and levels of play, there's a place for about every U.S. kid out there to play college tennis.

You can be picky if your open to a lot of options.

Did you talk with that coach yet?

Oh okay. Thanks.

No, I had a family emergency.

It's very clear that because he hasn't replied to any of my emails, he's not interested. I'm going to have to go to win district or something to get his attention.

andfor · 03-18-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdrive

Oh okay. Thanks.

No, I had a family emergency.

It's very clear that because he hasn't replied to any of my emails, he's not interested. I'm going to have to go to win district or something to get his attention.

Some coaches are not that good with email. Don't let that discourage you. Have you called him? You can get his number right off their website. Keep trying. If you wait to win district or something, you may still be waiting on his call.

tennisnj · 03-18-2013, 03:52 PM

I played for a D1 Big East school in the mid to late 90s & we would routinely lose to D2 & D3 teams often 7-0. We were horrible, yes, but to say that D1 is where it's at just isn't the case. We would lose to schools like Embry-Riddle (NAIA), Coe & Amherst.

Coach Carter · 03-19-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdrive

Oh okay. Thanks.

No, I had a family emergency.

It's very clear that because he hasn't replied to any of my emails, he's not interested. I'm going to have to go to win district or something to get his attention.

You have to realize that you aren't ranked and have little USTA experience. Your HS experience isn't going to draw much attention for him unless you go WIN STATE in Texas (he'd see that and be impressed, of course you'd be getting offers from other places then)...district is just district, unless New Braunfels or Highland Park is in your district and then you'd still have to point that out. It just will not get you noticed without the USTA pedigree.

Doubles · 04-11-2013, 09:22 AM

Dennison's a pretty good DIII team, they lost to UToledo 7-0. UT also beat UW-Green Bay 5-2 earlier this year, so I doubt UT would have a problem with Kenyon.

marquette100 · 04-11-2013, 09:57 AM

UWGB tennis is not good. They are decent this year because they dont have an American player on the roster. Nobody would elect to go there if they are a good player (hence all foreign players). It is a bad program with below average academics and no on campus. Have fun competing in the horizon league, that is one bad confrence.

Clemson_tennis · 04-11-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by marquette100

UWGB tennis is not good. They are decent this year because they dont have an American player on the roster. Nobody would elect to go there if they are a good player (hence all foreign players). It is a bad program with below average academics and no on campus. Have fun competing in the horizon league, that is one bad confrence.

I'm judging by your username but Marquette is not a whole lot better.

bluetrain4 · 04-11-2013, 11:07 AM

I don't get the controversy? Top DIII schools (Emory, UC-Santa Cruz, for example) actually are better than some DI schools. Granted, the DI schools they're better than are completley inconsequential, and the number of those DI schools that the Top DIII schools would be better than isn't that large. But, the fact remains that there are DIII schools out there that can beat some DI schools.

How did this start? No one would propose that Top DIII schools can complete with the Top 10, 20, 30, or 40 DI schools. Did someone on TW posit that a Top DIII school could compete with or beat a merely "decent" DI school, ranked in the Top 50 or Top 100 (which would probably be false). Is that how this started?

The base proposition isn't wrong. Any given year, there is a DIII school that can beat at least one DI school.

2ndServe · 04-11-2013, 12:30 PM

there are some really stacked community college and naia schools because they have less regulations than a d1-d3 school. Some years back College of the Desert was either a cc or naia school and it seemed like everyone one of them could and probably did play d1 tennis.

Doubles · 04-11-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by marquette100

UWGB tennis is not good. They are decent this year because they dont have an American player on the roster. Nobody would elect to go there if they are a good player (hence all foreign players). It is a bad program with below average academics and no on campus. Have fun competing in the horizon league, that is one bad confrence.

Dude, they won the league last year. I don't care what your biases are, if you're winning your league at a collegiate level, the you're better than a large majority of the tennis playing population.

Doubles · 04-11-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndServe

there are some really stacked community college and naia schools because they have less regulations than a d1-d3 school. Some years back College of the Desert was either a cc or naia school and it seemed like everyone one of them could and probably did play d1 tennis.

One of there players from last year plays DI now.

sundaypunch · 04-16-2013, 05:06 PM

Let's face it, there are quite a few DI schools that are not academically "elite". There will always be some players that could play tennis at a lower-end D1 but choose a more prestigious DIII school for academics.

03-18-2013, 03:52 PM	#70
tennisnj Professional Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,185	I played for a D1 Big East school in the mid to late 90s & we would routinely lose to D2 & D3 teams often 7-0. We were horrible, yes, but to say that D1 is where it's at just isn't the case. We would lose to schools like Embry-Riddle (NAIA), Coe & Amherst. __________________ "Stroke it, don't poke it." "Striving to keep our balls in play."

04-11-2013, 09:22 AM	#72
Doubles Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2010 Location: Approaching the net Posts: 3,406	Dennison's a pretty good DIII team, they lost to UToledo 7-0. UT also beat UW-Green Bay 5-2 earlier this year, so I doubt UT would have a problem with Kenyon. __________________ All aboard the Gulbis bandwagon!

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