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Old 02-12-2013, 11:57 AM   #21
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No I totally get what the definition is in your eyes and other parents eyes and agree thats how it should be.

I was strictly talking to BB about how he and I need the USTA to retain your definition and be fun rather than being designed just for those of us who have pro goals.
I do get what your saying and sounds reasonable for the multitudes!
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:04 PM   #22
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Fair enough on your point but once again I believe when your in your kids face off court hugging them and telling them you love them then when your on court telling them this is gonna be work it's not meant to be fun but grueling and follow it with your the best and I believe in you it settles well with the kids .
No argument there. This was about the comments on tournament changes taking the soul of of them. For those who have been to a major, the atmosphere is electric, big draw, the best players, buzz all over the place, tons of entertainment for fans... and yes, the biggest challenge in tennis. Isn't that what the end goal is for national level juniors? Wouldn't you want to inject some of that instead of watering it down, which is what the poster was saying.
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No argument there. This was about the comments on tournament changes taking the soul of of them. For those who have been to a major, the atmosphere is electric, big draw, the best players, buzz all over the place, tons of entertainment for fans... and yes, the biggest challenge in tennis. Isn't that what the end goal is for national level juniors? Wouldn't you want to inject some of that instead of watering it down, which is what the poster was saying.
There is a sense of excitement at a big tournament versus a 32.

Usually the location is better, stringing, concession, goodies, lots of kids,
different friends to hang out with, lots of tennis to watch and usually better viewing.

Those are the factors that seem to make it more fun instead of showing up at a small location
to pretty much play the same kids you just saw at the last regional who you also happen to see at your sectional.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:17 PM   #24
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Default Lisa Stone -recap of the California meeting last night

Lisa Stone ( Parenting Aces) is doing a recap of last night's meeting in California. If you were there, she is looking for your take.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:17 PM   #25
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There is a sense of excitement at a big tournament versus a 32.

Usually the location is better, stringing, concession, goodies, lots of kids,
different friends to hang out with, lots of tennis to watch and usually better viewing.

Those are the factors that seem to make it more fun instead of showing up at a small location
to pretty much play the same kids you just saw at the last regional who you also happen to see at your sectional.
Thanks. That's what I'm trying to say, guys.
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There is a sense of excitement at a big tournament versus a 32.

Usually the location is better, stringing, concession, goodies, lots of kids,
different friends to hang out with, lots of tennis to watch and usually better viewing.

Those are the factors that seem to make it more fun instead of showing up at a small location
to pretty much play the same kids you just saw at the last regional who you also happen to see at your sectional.
For those whose goal is college, playing supers is the equivalent of playing in a Grand Slam.

For those who haven't played a super, it's what is stated above, total excitement for both player and family.

Starting with check in, meeting up with other players/families, getting that T shirt, yes that T shirt are life time memories.

Just image how many spectators at the finals of a 32 draw.
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If the parents and players want the large draws and there is no cost associated with it, why not. Personally I would rather go across the street to play than across the country. I get the same thrill in a close social match close to home as a sectional final (which I have played many times) far away.
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If the parents and players want the large draws and there is no cost associated with it, why not. Personally I would rather go across the street to play than across the country. I get the same thrill in a close social match close to home as a sectional final (which I have played many times) far away.
Yes, but at least you had a choice.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:14 PM   #29
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Back to the OP though, has anyone had a positive experience with Len Brewer? Regardless of whether we agree with him on the merits, I have never been with him at a meeting where he has not been condescending and disrespectful. Frankly, it can't help but taint my opinion of the USTA that they have chosen him to be one of their public faces during this "listening" tour . . . .
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http://parentingaces.com/2013/02/13/...n-los-angeles/

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Hopefully resolution is around the corner so everyone can get back to tennis. I suspect the Euro's are sitting back and laughing as US tennis parents, coaches, and organizations get worked up over the proposed changes.
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nvm.............trying to give up the junior thread for New Year's resolution - ha.

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I disagree with USTA changes and clearly Brewer is a rude person overall. But, if somebody told me that USTA is the reason a 7 year old is already losing interest in tennis, I might get ticked off too.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:31 AM   #34
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I disagree with USTA changes and clearly Brewer is a rude person overall. But, if somebody told me that USTA is the reason a 7 year old is already losing interest in tennis, I might get ticked off too.
Rina I totally agree. Copper Bowl or no Copper Bowl my kid still loves tennis. 32 draw or 128 draw, my kid will still be grinding away and loving every minute of it.

We'll deal with the changes or whatever the new world order is once the smoke clears. In the meantime, I have tuned out almost all of the chatter regarding the changes as it is a distraction, repetitive, and exhausting.
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Rina I totally agree. Copper Bowl or no Copper Bowl my kid still loves tennis. 32 draw or 128 draw, my kid will still be grinding away and loving every minute of it.

We'll deal with the changes or whatever the new world order is once the smoke clears. In the meantime, I have tuned out almost all of the chatter regarding the changes as it is a distraction, repetitive, and exhausting.
Have to agree. For the 1% and future 1% of potential national championship competitors, I see their position. However its mostly the parents who seem bothered. Kids can either play at that level or not. Yea, the WC situation is goofy. Overall it's not going to change the fact a kid loves tennis or not. The changes won't make a difference for college tennis prospects either. Coaches know where the players are, how to find them and where they can go to see them play for scouting purposes.
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I disagree with USTA changes and clearly Brewer is a rude person overall. But, if somebody told me that USTA is the reason a 7 year old is already losing interest in tennis, I might get ticked off too.
Yep. 7 year old? Give me a break.
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Rina I totally agree. Copper Bowl or no Copper Bowl my kid still loves tennis. 32 draw or 128 draw, my kid will still be grinding away and loving every minute of it.

We'll deal with the changes or whatever the new world order is once the smoke clears. In the meantime, I have tuned out almost all of the chatter regarding the changes as it is a distraction, repetitive, and exhausting.
...I've tried, but I keep getting pulled back in. I will be playing parent advocate of the junior comp changes on UR10s Network's Parenting Aces this Monday at Noon eastern time.
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Have to agree. For the 1% and future 1% of potential national championship competitors, I see their position. However its mostly the parents who seem bothered. Kids can either play at that level or not. Yea, the WC situation is goofy. Overall it's not going to change the fact a kid loves tennis or not. The changes won't make a difference for college tennis prospects either. Coaches know where the players are, how to find them and where they can go to see them play for scouting purposes.
andfor,

i hate to sound like the mutual admiration society here but, are you an experienced tennis parent? You either have learned from living it as a player, have raised more than one tennis kid, or you're getting some solid guidance. You obviously get it.
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i hate to sound like the mutual admiration society here but, are you an experienced tennis parent? You either have learned from living it as a player, have raised more than one tennis kid, or you're getting some solid guidance. You obviously get it.
Both thanks. I'll private message about my coaching but not out here. The kids names don't need to be anywhere near this nut house. I'm one of 'em. Ha Ha.
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