All these tweeners...so much spin...maybe too much?

[MikeHitsHard93]

Is there a point when you get too much of a spinny ball?

[GarryClarke]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

Is there a point when you get too much of a spinny ball?

yes when the ball is hit short and sits up like a duck waiting to get both barrels BOOM

[DustinW]

Of course there is. Because with lighter weight spinny rackets, you will hit sitters that land mid-court and a good opponent will jam it down your throat.

On the other hand... if you can still hit a heavy ball that lands deep in the court, then there is no such thing as too much topsin.

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by GarryClarke

yes when the ball is hit short and sits up like a duck waiting to get both barrels BOOM

This is what happened to me a lot today. My friend wasn't even phased by my topspin. In fact, it made it easier on him to hit his extremely flat fh. I find that I have to hit a lot of top to keep the ball in though.

[OHBH]

You can get too much spin. The more energy you put into creating spin the less pace you can generate. Eventually your balls will start landing shorter and shorter with less pace and become easily attacked by the opposing player.

Think of it like shooting water out of a garden hose. To shoot farther you need to aim higher (increased upward angle = increased spin) but after you aim too high the stream start falling short. You need to find an optimal balance between the two for the heaviest ball possible.

[MikeHitsHard93]

Even with synthetic gut, sometimes my ball is too spinny and I have to work to make my ball penetrating.

[GarryClarke]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

This is what happened to me a lot today. My friend wasn't even phased by my topspin. In fact, it made it easier on him to hit his extremely flat fh. I find that I have to hit a lot of top to keep the ball in though.

thats why ive moved away from the 2012 pd as i was moon balling too much and i wasnt hitting deep enough and the ball was just coming back at 100mph.

the blade98 is perfect for still hitting spin but you hit flatter so the ball kicks through the court not just sitting up to be smacked past you

i also swing slower with the blade but still have more than enough time on the ball and my shots always land deep with pace pushing back my opponent,the blade98 really works for me and i do pull out my old pd,s but they soon get put back as its like night and day

another thought is could you just try to hit a tad flatter????
i never managed to be able to do it but it might be worth a try????

[spinorama]

String shouldn't make too much difference at this level. Gotta focus on the stroke and generating your own power with your body rather than with the racquet.

[mongting]

Originally Posted by GarryClarke

thats why ive moved away from the 2012 pd as i was moon balling too much and i wasnt hitting deep enough and the ball was just coming back at 100mph.

the blade98 is perfect for still hitting spin but you hit flatter so the ball kicks through the court not just sitting up to be smacked past you

i also swing slower with the blade but still have more than enough time on the ball and my shots always land deep with pace pushing back my opponent,the blade98 really works for me and i do pull out my old pd,s but they soon get put back as its like night and day

another thought is could you just try to hit a tad flatter????
i never managed to be able to do it but it might be worth a try????

Is your Blade 2013 version? If so, is it 16x19 or 18x20?

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by spinorama

String shouldn't make too much difference at this level. Gotta focus on the stroke and generating your own power with your body rather than with the racquet.

I hit with adequate power. The tennis pro at MSU told me I'm about a 4.0. I think I'm gonna shy away from low powered poly though. Using cyclone 17@50lbs

[Muppet]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

Even with synthetic gut, sometimes my ball is too spinny and I have to work to make my ball penetrating.

Add some lead at 3&9. Put just 1g on each side. Allow the racquet to hit through the ball more, rather than focusing on brushing the ball. If the balance feels cumbersome after trying it for a couple of hours, you can either remove the lead or add 4g inside the buttcap. I like using poster putty for small adjustments of weight in the buttcap.

[Doubles]

If your ball is too spinny then you should change your swing to flatten it out a bit. This isn't really a racket or string issue, it's a matter of technique.

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by GarryClarke

thats why ive moved away from the 2012 pd as i was moon balling too much and i wasnt hitting deep enough and the ball was just coming back at 100mph.

the blade98 is perfect for still hitting spin but you hit flatter so the ball kicks through the court not just sitting up to be smacked past you

i also swing slower with the blade but still have more than enough time on the ball and my shots always land deep with pace pushing back my opponent,the blade98 really works for me and i do pull out my old pd,s but they soon get put back as its like night and day

another thought is could you just try to hit a tad flatter????
i never managed to be able to do it but it might be worth a try????

Hmmmm ok. These are all things I will keep in mind!

[sundaypunch]

Originally Posted by Doubles

If your ball i too spinny then you should change your swing to flatten it out a bit. This isn't really a racket or string issue, it's a matter of technique.

This.

You can hit the ball perfectly flat with a 99s or AeroPro strung with a "spinny" string. Racquet and string will accentuate the spin but swingpath and racquet face angle are the main factors.

It is just a matter of learning to flatten out the ball for occasions when it is warranted.

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by Doubles

If your ball i too spinny then you should change your swing to flatten it out a bit. This isn't really a racket or string issue, it's a matter of technique.

I hit with a western fh, and it's a modern stroke. I'm your typical topspin baseliner. Soo.....idk what to do.

[Veninga]

yeah for sure, too much spin will land the ball sooner with less pace. a good opponent will punish you immediately.

the new tweeners all have these more open pattern, increasing spin and power, but as the result all balls land less deep...

[anubis]

I change my grip depending on how far away from the net I am and how high the ball is in the air.

If the ball is high, I use a semi western grip so I can hit the ball hard and use enough spin to keep it in.

For groundstrokes where i'm further away, say @ the baseline or even behind it, then I switch to a more eastern grip so I'm hitting through the ball more, as opposed to brushing over it.

[Dgdavid]

Originally Posted by MikeHitsHard93

This is what happened to me a lot today. My friend wasn't even phased by my topspin. In fact, it made it easier on him to hit his extremely flat fh. I find that I have to hit a lot of top to keep the ball in though.

tis exactly what happened to me with the Steam 99S and Non-S. opponents loved it. back on 18x20 now...

[GarryClarke]

Originally Posted by mongting

Is your Blade 2013 version? If so, is it 16x19 or 18x20?

sorry should have mentioned its the black/gold version 18/20 pattern

[MikeHitsHard93]

Originally Posted by Dgdavid

tis exactly what happened to me with the Steam 99S and Non-S. opponents loved it. back on 18x20 now...

I don't want to blame equipment or anything, but it felt like it was working against me today. My friend can't hit topspin to save his life, and everything is dead flat. When I hit the hardest Fh I could give him with top, he stepped in and nailed it in the corner almost every time. I'm not joking. When I tried hitting flatter, the ball either sailed or landed in the net. Occasionally I got a couple good flat forehands though. It was just extremely difficult.