Your help needed for college recruiting advice!!

[tennis_ocd]

Originally Posted by tennis5

Just not true for D3. Sorry.

Tennis can help you get into a highly selective D3 that perhaps you could not get into with out tennis.

But, coaches for D3 can not "get your kid in".

hmmm. yes and no. d3coaches certainly have an input into admissions. But even more, likely a couple of "very strong inputs" each year typically reserved for outstanding/highly desired/fully committed (to school) student. Not going to do miracles with poor SAT or GPA numbers or guarantee acceptance, but very close to it for a couple students.

My advice to OP would be to honestly evaluate what a kid wants out of college and tennis -- what is more important? All divisions are demanding; D1 incredibly so.

[Chemist]

Originally Posted by tennis_ocd

hmmm. yes and no. d3coaches certainly have an input into admissions. But even more, likely a couple of "very strong inputs" each year typically reserved for outstanding/highly desired/fully committed (to school) student. Not going to do miracles with poor SAT or GPA numbers or guarantee acceptance, but very close to it for a couple students.

My advice to OP would be to honestly evaluate what a kid wants out of college and tennis -- what is more important? All divisions are demanding; D1 incredibly so.

It's consistent with what I have seen. We know a girl, a 3 star tennis player, got into Univ Chicago. Even though she had really high SAT (over 2,300!) and GPA, the tennis coach was not able to get her in with early decision. She was wait-listed and got in early spring with the help of the coach.

[Misterbill]

Advice to Juniors:

If you are looking to get into a D3 or Ivy early decision, ask the coach how many "slots" he/she has with the Admissions Office for your entering class and if one of those slots will be allocated to you.

How simple is that?

I suppose an evil coach could lie to a simple direct question like that, but I would say the chances are very low............and if there were a lie, it would be a blessing that the Admissions Office turned you down early so you could explore other options than committing to play for someone who is deceitful.

None of this affects your chances of getting in solely on your non-athletic credentials

[coaching32yrs]

[quote=Misterbill;7243879]Advice to Juniors:

If you are looking to get into a D3 or Ivy early decision, ask the coach how many "slots" he/she has with the Admissions Office for your entering class and if one of those slots will be allocated to you.

How simple is that?

I suppose an evil coach could lie to a simple direct question like that, but I would say the chances are very low............and if there were a lie, it would be a blessing that the Admissions Office turned you down early so you could explore other options than committing to play for someone who is deceitful.

None of this affects your chances of getting in solely on your non-athletic credentials[/QUOT

You got it exactly right Mr. Bill. Problem is parents don't understand it when they have a good player but they are not one the coach has a slot for. The coach can help but it is up to admissions vs. Player is the coach's #1 recruit, meets the minimum academic standard and the coach always get his top recruit in.

[Chemist]

This is what I understand,

A player, who a coach really wants and meets minimum academic standard - will get in with a slot

A player who a coach wants but doesn't want to use a slot, but has as good academics as other applicants - may get in - tennis adds point

A player who a coach wants but doesn't want to use a slot, but has worse academics than the average applicants - will not get in, period!

A player who a coach doesn't really care, but has outstanding academics, much better than the average applicants - may also get in and make the team - the AD would love to use his/her academic index to help recruit another player, (football, basketball etc) who barely meets the minimum academics.

Any insights for number of the tennis slots? I guess it should be 2 for top D1 programs. How about Ivies and top D3 programs? 3?