Best Natural Gut String?

[ultradr]

In terms of ball pocketing and dynamic resilience, it's the Wilson natural gut
with Federer's picture, the Bobolat's original formula, not new BT7.

[ishiun]

so wilson gut plays like the old babolat one?

[ishiun]

before the new coating i mean

[Rob1]

VS Team is great
With ALU Poer or MSV Co-Focus

[JT_2eighty]

If price is no concern, then Wilson gut is great.

For the best price/performance, Pacific Classic 16 for open patterns, or 17g for dense patterns.

[WileyCoyote]

Wilson NG 16 mains at 55 with MSV Co Focus 18 crosses at 52.

[10smonkey]

right now i am sidelined ( just had rotator cuff surgery) but i used vs team 17 in the mains and pro line II 18 in the crosses on my babalot pdr + and love it durability was good and feel was excellent

[ultradr]

Originally Posted by ishiun

so wilson gut plays like the old babolat one?

Yes. Some say it feels like 90% of pre-bt7 original
Babolat VS. to me, it feels identical.

[newyorkstadium]

Pacific prime gut by some margin.

[acura9927]

Just picked up my Aerogel 100 with Bab Nat VS 17, its is stiff. Did not play with it yet just hit against the living room couch ( I won by the way). Feels stiffer than NXT, NXT Tour same tension of 52pds.

Crap, not liking it so far hopefully on the court I can feel the stiffness give me extra feel and control.

[JT_2eighty]

Originally Posted by acura9927

Just picked up my Aerogel 100 with Bab Nat VS 17, its is stiff. Did not play with it yet just hit against the living room couch ( I won by the way). Feels stiffer than NXT, NXT Tour same tension of 52pds.

Crap, not liking it so far hopefully on the court I can feel the stiffness give me extra feel and control.

Nice thing about gut is that it will break in, and it will feel softer once you start swinging through the ball on court. Gut gets more elastic at high tension.

[ultradr]

This worries me that it is only matter of time that the changes in VS will
trickle down to Wilson.

By the way, BT7 is not just a coating, I heard, they reduced number of sub-strands
from 16 to 7. They now have thicker threads.

[JT_2eighty]

Originally Posted by ultradr

This worries me that it is only matter of time that the changes in VS will
trickle down to Wilson.

By the way, BT7 is not just a coating, I heard, they reduced number of sub-strands
from 16 to 7. They now have thicker threads.

I haven't tried new BT7, it's too expensive for me, and I had stocked up on some Pacific Tough and Prime before they upped their rates.

I would say Pacific Prime is the closest one to the old VS, aside from Wilson. That will be what people will need to go to if/when Wilson no longer uses the soft pre-BT7 formula.

[acura9927]

The current BT7 in 17g is thick, looks like a 16g to me. Feels like NRG2 mulit, not how a Nat Gut should be. I would avoid. I'm stuck with it, maybe I put some 5-10 pd weight on the stringbed for hours to loosen it up.

[rudester]

Prince natural gut to me plays more like the old VS, more power than wilson NG but i use in hybrid with poly crosses too help tame the power. Would dial up tension if used full bed.

[parasailing]

Old VS Team was the best they ever made followed by current Wilson Natural Gut and Prince Natural Gut. Since we can't get the original VS Team anymore, I get which ever one is cheaper between Wilson and Prince since they both feel pretty good.

[acura9927]

At 51 pds strung on my 4d 100 you would think the VS Team with BT7 with be half way not stiff. Well I think its worse than the 5 dollar Gamma Syn Gut the racquet came with. To ease the stiffness I put 19 pds of free weights, taking it on and off sometimes.
Pure junk. I give these idiots at Babolat a chance and have a hole in my wallet.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by acura9927

At 51 pds strung on my 4d 100 you would think the VS Team with BT7 with be half way not stiff. Well I think its worse than the 5 dollar Gamma Syn Gut the racquet came with. To ease the stiffness I put 19 pds of free weights, taking it on and off sometimes.
Pure junk. I give these idiots at Babolat a chance and have a hole in my wallet.

I feel bad for the 100

[ultradr]

It's not just plain stiffness, IMHO.

original VS used to be crisp at low impact and surprisingly resilient at high impact.

I used string VS(or Tonic) at very high tension(up to ~68 lb) on 18x20 string enjoying crisp
control on touch shots but still could bring on beast-like power when I take
large cut, exhibiting sweet ball pocketing characteristics.

BT7 lost this dynamic nature, IMHO.

[acura9927]

I took the 71 dollar loss and cut the strings and will put in something else. Digusting how this bt7 tech ever was invented.