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Old 05-19-2006, 09:22 PM   #41
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again trolls. the title of the post was the most efficient, if you dont think feds isnt efficient then youre basically a troll or no nothing about tennis... his motion is classic, smooth and effortless. its how you would teach your kid to serve...
Efficient = Looks, smooth, and results.

Results are A MUST on being efficient.

I'm not saying Federer doesn't use this serve as a weapon, which he does, but his serve is a smaller part of his game, than Krajicek or Ivanisevic, and certainly not that dangerous. Ergo, Richard and Goran's serve were more efficient
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:19 PM   #42
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Sampras, Federer, Roddick.

I trade my serve for one of them anytimes. Well, I'll understand if they refuse my shitty serve!!!
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:24 PM   #43
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I've got to go with Max Mirnyi. Very smooth!
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:43 AM   #44
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Sampras had the most smooth and fluid serve I've ever seen and I think the best serve of all time. The fact that his serve still holds up after not playing at all for 4 years just shows how natural it was for him.

Federer should not be getting so much attention for his serve. It's good, but he'll be the first one to say that there are guys out there with better serves.

And Roddick's serve IS great and there's not a single pro that would disagree with that. If you say his serve isn't that great, then his ground game MUST be great, because he's been at the top of tennis for a while. It's not efficient for most people, requires a lot of energy, but he's a twitchy kind of guy and I think it's natural for him.
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:18 AM   #45
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Roddick's 1st serve is the best. I might get flamed, but it's also the best serve of all time (yes better than sampras's first serve). I definitely do not think its anywhere near pete's efficiency level. Roddick's is one of maximum exertion and maximum results. In other words he swings real hard and that's about it.
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:27 AM   #46
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I've got to go with Max Mirnyi. Very smooth!
max's serve is one of the most ugliest serves of all time. His service preparation makes me laugh all the time lol. But i cant comment on the efficiency of it because I dont really study it... i can't help laughing at it.
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:49 AM   #47
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Roddick's 1st serve is the best. I might get flamed, but it's also the best serve of all time (yes better than sampras's first serve)
And how exactly is it better? Probably a few mph faster, but in every other area - spin, accuracy, disguise, ability to hit aces at will - its miles ahead. As for speed, when you take into account the difference in radar guns, its not that much. Sampras/Goran regulary hit 130's.

btw I'm suprised no one has mentioned Mark 'The Scud' Phillipousis! The man had a damn good serve.
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Old 05-20-2006, 08:01 AM   #48
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R7q7...rch=Ivanisevic

A little clip from the Wimbledon 2001 final. Goran wasn't at his best serving stage (which is more around 1992-1995), but he threw down 30 aces per match that tourney.

A vid worth watching
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Old 05-20-2006, 08:14 AM   #49
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max's serve is one of the most ugliest serves of all time. His service preparation makes me laugh all the time lol. But i cant comment on the efficiency of it because I dont really study it... i can't help laughing at it.
Are you kidding me? Roddick has to have one of the ugliest serves of all time.
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Old 05-20-2006, 08:19 AM   #50
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Noone else thinks Hewitt´s serve is pretty efficient?
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Old 05-20-2006, 10:31 AM   #51
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I would have to agree that Roddick's serve is one of the ugliest around. How could you possibly say it is not quirky?
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:01 PM   #52
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I agree Federer's motion simple and clean, gearing for accuracy.

But I don't find his motion particularly smooth or efficent.
It's kinda no surpise that Federer has been struggling with his serves
for last year or so.

There are handsfull of players in 90's who had much, mcuh better
serves/motions with silky smoothness, extrem efficiency: Krajicek, Stich,
Sampras, Ivanesvich,....
Haha, you may be right there fastdunn, but I haven't gotten a chance to watch lots of the older players =(... I'm only 17 now, but I do know that Sampras' serve was awesome - have some videos of him.

Who would you pick for current pros?
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:29 PM   #53
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Efficiency-wise: Federer.
Look at the variation he gets: anything from 115-128mph out-wide/down-the-T aces or heavy kick-serves...all with minimum effort.

Other than that, I'd say Safin is there for pace and variation with an efficient action.
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:35 PM   #54
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i like nadals servase action because he leans forward so much even tho his serve aint that powerful
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:37 PM   #55
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roddick looks weird cus he has no backswing :s
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Most complicated - Edberg. Most effective: Greg Rusedski. Roddick??? He seems like he is about to start a steam engine before he serves!!
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:56 PM   #57
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Depends on your definition of efficient (as different people find different things efficient...). I find Roddick's serve form to be the most efficient in that list.
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:23 PM   #58
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Noone else thinks Hewitt´s serve is pretty efficient?
He double faults too much, not enough first serves in.
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:59 PM   #59
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How about Gonzalez? Compact, powerful, no wasted movement.
He doesn't qualify IMHO because he can hardly get it in. He can put some nice pace on the ball.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:27 PM   #60
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I thought Seng Shalken had a simple and efficient serve.
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