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Old 09-13-2006, 08:49 PM   #61
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What kind of racqut are you using? The racuqet choice in serving makes some difference as well. I rememeber sometime ago I was hitting on court next to some old people and I saw one of them with a wilson hammer (it kinda looked like a widebody). So just for the hell of it I was fooling around and asked him if I could serve with it. OMG, My serve was untouchable. That thing was like a magic wand. I felt like Pete Sampras. But I could not keep a ground stroke in the court with that thing. Hahahaha.
Edberg, I think you were probably experiencing serving with a racquet that may have a comparable swingweight to your normal frame, but a much lower static weight. Those things really have a lot of pop on the serve, with all that weight in the hoop end. How much do you customize your regular playing racquets?
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:56 PM   #62
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Edberg, I think you were probably experiencing serving with a racquet that may have a comparable swingweight to your normal frame, but a much lower static weight. Those things really have a lot of pop on the serve, with all that weight in the hoop end. How much do you customize your regular playing racquets?

Umm, I actually don't put any extra weight on my nCode tour 90. But my old orginal prostaff 85 sq in racquet I used to put some lead tape around the head. And for some reason when I first started using the tour 90 I felt the head felt a little heavier than the prostaff 85. Could someone tell me if this is the case for them if they have ever hit with both racquets before.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:02 PM   #63
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Umm, I actually don't put any extra weight on my nCode tour 90. But my old orginal prostaff 85 sq in racquet I used to put some lead tape around the head. And for some reason when I first started using the tour 90 I felt the head felt a little heavier than the prostaff 85. Could someone tell me if this is the case for them if they have ever hit with both racquets before.
I have around 5 inches of lead at 3 and 9 on my ps85. I have hit with a stock NCODE 90 and felt the same as you. It definitely felt heavier to swing than my ps85 even with the setup I have.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:18 PM   #64
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o crap I think he hit a 156 mph serve!!
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:30 PM   #65
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I have around 5 inches of lead at 3 and 9 on my ps85. I have hit with a stock NCODE 90 and felt the same as you. It definitely felt heavier to swing than my ps85 even with the setup I have.

I thought so. I knew I wasn't going crazy. People kept telling me they were about the same.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:33 PM   #66
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Umm, I actually don't put any extra weight on my nCode tour 90. But my old orginal prostaff 85 sq in racquet I used to put some lead tape around the head. And for some reason when I first started using the tour 90 I felt the head felt a little heavier than the prostaff 85. Could someone tell me if this is the case for them if they have ever hit with both racquets before.
My old coach has a bundle of nCode Tour 90's (he can get a few free Wilson racquets every year, and he fell in love with that thing for some reason). I normally play with the 6.0 95, sometimes 6.0 85, but I add a lot of swingweight to my frames so his nCode felt a lot lighter and less stable to me. Some time I might try to get him to let me lead them up a bit so I can get a real comparison.

I remember reading specs about the 6.0 85 on Greg Raven's site. I think I remember that the 6.0 85's had different swingweights depending on where they were made, and a lot of them had something around 315. If you guys had 6.0s with a swingweight of 315 and were adding some lead, it's very possible that they were fairly close in swingweight to the 326 (as listed on tennis warehouse) for the nCode. I think I'm gonna look at Greg's site again to check up on that.

EDIT: Nevermind. The specs on Greg's site were unstrung, so my theory doesn't explain it. I have nothing.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:53 PM   #67
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I don't know I think it's over 100mph though. The grunt is awesome and the cameraman needs practice.
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Old 09-13-2006, 10:21 PM   #68
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A lot of people like to talk big, and say I could hit 100+, blah, blah, blah. It is amazing to me how many people on these boards could so easily hit 100-110 (cough),
and your quote from before...

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I can hit serves between 100-115, and people that I play against say you could hear a "bzzzzzzz" (buzz) when it is nearing them.
so whos to say your better than the other people on here claiming the same thing when you do it also?
your just one of the many who you say talk big.



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yet there are only a handful of female pro players who could eclipse that speed. These are professional who have been playing their who lives, 7 days a week, 14 hours a day, with perfect technique but they can't reach that speed, yet everyone on these boards has a 100+ serve (LOL).

First off, lets get real. Females are not as near as strong as Males. And there are a HELL of a lot of male tennis players around 5.0 level that have better and faster serves than the women on tour. And just because they have played there whole life countless hours, it still doesn't mean all of them have perfect technique on their serve.

Look at Dementieva. Her serve fails her over and over again. But she is capable of hitting over 100mph on occasion. And yet, i've seen Dementieva double fault whole games away before. Her toss starts to get farther and farther to the right and her form crumbles. She lacks any ability to hit a kick serve. I've only seen her hit variations of a slice serve. But she is still a professional tennis player and is capable of beating some of the top girls.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:00 AM   #69
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so whos to say your better than the other people on here claiming the same thing when you do it also? your just one of the many who you say talk big.
Patience. I already have a video camera and am waiting to get a radar gun so I could post videos with the radar gun.

In the meantime, if you can't wait contact No Skillz. I have played with him and he could vouch I am not BS'ing. He has actually commented to me that when my serve is coming at him he could hear the "Bzzzzzzzz" from all the spin and pace.

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First off, lets get real. Females are not as near as strong as Males.
Agree. Being physically strong is one very small component. Strength will only get you so far, where as technique will take you the rest of the way-very long way.


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And there are a HELL of a lot of male tennis players around 5.0 level that have better and faster serves than the women on tour.
Strongly disagree.

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And just because they have played there whole life countless hours, it still doesn't mean all of them have perfect technique on their serve.
Agree, but they have better technique than the average players on these boards.

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Look at Dementieva. Her serve fails her over and over again. But she is capable of hitting over 100mph on occasion. And yet, i've seen Dementieva double fault whole games away before. Her toss starts to get farther and farther to the right and her form crumbles. She lacks any ability to hit a kick serve. I've only seen her hit variations of a slice serve. But she is still a professional tennis player and is capable of beating some of the top girls.
Not saying I disagree with you but she is merely one example. The only thing wrong with her technique is where her toss ends up. The rest of her swing is awesome...the knee bend, coiling, dipping of shoulders, pronation, explosion and uncoiling into the swing, etc.
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:52 PM   #70
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nice form, nice contact, nice kick on the serve but ENOUGH WITH THE FOOT FAULTS!!!
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:10 AM   #71
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My friend serves big... I think he told me he clocked 110 or 120.. don't remember. I've seen very few people that serve like that. I do hear a buzz on some of his serves.

I find it hard to believe all the people that claim they serve 100+. I think if I go all out, I reach 100... pure guess since I've never had it measured. Most of my serves are probably in 80-90 range. I'm guessing I'm in the 4.0 range and most of my friends are the same. They have trouble returning my serves.

If you guys are serving 100+ at 4.0-4.5 level, you are bombing it.
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:02 PM   #72
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im serving 70-90..... 3.5...
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