*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

mavtop

New User
why i got always double posts ?

is there a way to delete a double post ?

thanks in advance
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MatthewH.

Rookie
So I used the PT280 back in college some 15 years ago and just now back into the swing of things over the last year. Picked up a few on the bay and put new grommets/pallets on them. Great flex and I like the weight to them.

I searched this forum but couldn't find recommendations for strings for the PT280 other than just going for a 17 gauge string (which I will try)

Anyone have any input on using a hybrid string set up on these?? I tried Yonex Poly Pro Tour hybrid with Wilson NXT 15 and liked it.
Or any soft poly string that works well? (healthy now but coming off some elbow problems ... dang Graphene Radical)

Side note, all of the ones I've picked up are "designed in Austria" - I know that means made in China but one of my racquets is a lighter blue than the other ones. Wondering if it is different in any way or it's just a fluke? I attached some pics - the one in the middle is the lighter blue one.
 
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MatthewH.

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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
So I used the PT280 back in college some 15 years ago and just now back into the swing of things over the last year. Picked up a few on the bay and put new grommets/pallets on them. Great flex and I like the weight to them.

I searched this forum but couldn't find recommendations for strings for the PT280 other than just going for a 17 gauge string (which I will try)

Anyone have any input on using a hybrid string set up on these?? I tried Yonex Poly Pro Tour hybrid with Wilson NXT 15 and liked it.
Or any soft poly string that works well? (healthy now but coming off some elbow problems ... dang Graphene Radical)

Side note, all of the ones I've picked up are "designed in Austria" - I know that means made in China but one of my racquets is a lighter blue than the other ones. Wondering if it is different in any way or it's just a fluke? I attached some pics - the one in the middle is the lighter blue one.
Do any of your racquets say "HEAD Barcode Label Inside" on the side of the frame?
 

mavtop

New User
Hi guys,

i found a Head Pro Tour Lite 630, it is maden in Austria and green color, has it the same frame characteristics of the pro tour 630/280 ? If yes i will buy it like 2nd racquet, so i can experiment with strings.

The next post i will let you know my experience with the 280 racquet used yesterday.

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mavtop

New User
Hi guys, like promised yesterday i tested the Pro Tour 280 in the field.

The strings are Babolat Xcel Limited 1,30mm 16g and the tension was 26 kg - 57 lbs on mains 25 kg - 55 lbs on crosses.

These are the first impressions after 3h of use: 20 mins to warm-up, 2 matches 2h-20min and then 20 mins of vole, demi-vole' and serves.

I missed some balls, i was used to the 660 frame of the previous racquet, Head Competition 660.

20 mins of warm-up wasn't enough to understand the characteristics of the racquet and the first match in double my team won 6-1 6-2, we were technically superior of the other team, we didn't push too much.

The second match was harder for me, it was a single match, my teammate versus me, we are technically at the same level, but he is fast and thin, while i'm fat and slow but i can see the field better (if you understand what i mean).

Anyway i lose in 2 sets 2-6 5-7 but i could test the racquet and finally feel the racquet.

Like with the Head Competition 660, i found the feel very very good, also if at the end i had some elbow pain, but very little, today i have no more, i don't know if it is a sign or it is normal after 3 hours, i remember i had the same feeling with the Head Competition 660, maybe the weight of the racquet ... i don't know, but for now it is ok, then we'll see in the future.

Pros:

Control, control, control: my shots in air, vole', demi-vole' are controlled at the perfection, like also slices and touch under the net.

Serves: i need to push a little more (but i need to verify, i was very tired yesterday in the 4th set) but sliced serves are perfect, i can make a short ball (in slice) more easily.

I can use forehand easily and it keeps the ball in the field if i'm in the sweet-spot or around it.

I still need to fix my backhand but i used it not so much and a lot of time in recovery, but today i count to play 2 hours again.

Cons:

Forehand too on the sides when i try to cross the ball or to push something more, but maybe this is a technique problem, i will have to investigate from the videos, to understand if i'm wrong position or the movement is not correct.

The 660 frame is bigger and permit more recovery in hard situation, with the 630 i had some problem to recover on sides shots, i will have to run before or faster :)

3 hours are not enough to give the final feeling, i will have to test it more, hope today to play other 2 hours and tomorrow too, in the while i found another racquet Head Pro Tour Lite 630, if it has the same frame and the same characteristic of the PT280/630 i will buy like second racquet, from that i read, it would be lighter, that could be good, i can add weight if i need, but i read also it is head heavier, i will need to add some weight on the butt cap ? If so how much ? I would like to have 2 identical racquet with 2 lightly different setups, just to try different strings.

A good news for me, my calf seems fixed properly, also if yesterday i left some balls because i didn't want to stretch it again.

Let me know what you think.

mavtop
 
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mavtop

New User
Ok i see this tread is not so alive :)

Yesterday 2 hours of play: 10 mins warm-up then 1h e 50 mins of mixed sets (we were only in 3) 1 vs 2 (single field vs double field), i won my 1 vs 2 match for 6-3 but lose my 2 vs 1 for 2-6

Finally i feel the racquet how i want.

Serves are fast enough, yesterday i forced some 1st serve and got a very fast ball, my opponents didn't send it back, maybe i found the right ball high in the serve, i will have to test it again.

for an attacker like me, slices, vole' and demi-vole' are perfect, the control is fantastic, the ball goes where i want, short or long all depends on me, now i need to lose some weight on my body to run faster :)

This racquet is perfect for my playstyle, but still i need to manage a better backhand, usually if i can i prefer the forehand, so when i need to use the backhand sometimes i do some errors.

Yesterday i recovered more balls and played better than last time, maybe i know the racquet better, or i'm improving my technique, but i'm very happy.

I don't feel now that the 660 frame is better than this, maybe i could recover very far balls, but yesterday i did the same with this 630 frame.

Someone can confirm that the Head Pro Tour Lite 630 has the same frame, tawron, and all the rest like the Pro Tour 630 ? I know it is head heavier and maybe i need to add weight on the butt cap, someone can confirm this ?

Thanks again
mavtop
 

DJ-

Hall of Fame
Hi guys, like promised yesterday i tested the Pro Tour 280 in the field.

The strings are Babolat Xcel Limited 1,30mm 16g and the tension was 26 kg - 57 lbs on mains 25 kg - 55 lbs on crosses.

These are the first impressions after 3h of use: 20 mins to warm-up, 2 matches 2h-20min and then 20 mins of vole, demi-vole' and serves.

I missed some balls, i was used to the 660 frame of the previous racquet, Head Competition 660.

20 mins of warm-up wasn't enough to understand the characteristics of the racquet and the first match in double my team won 6-1 6-2, we were technically superior of the other team, we didn't push too much.

The second match was harder for me, it was a single match, my teammate versus me, we are technically at the same level, but he is fast and thin, while i'm fat and slow but i can see the field better (if you understand what i mean).

Anyway i lose in 2 sets 2-6 5-7 but i could test the racquet and finally feel the racquet.

Like with the Head Competition 660, i found the feel very very good, also if at the end i had some elbow pain, but very little, today i have no more, i don't know if it is a sign or it is normal after 3 hours, i remember i had the same feeling with the Head Competition 660, maybe the weight of the racquet ... i don't know, but for now it is ok, then we'll see in the future.

Pros:

Control, control, control: my shots in air, vole', demi-vole' are controlled at the perfection, like also slices and touch under the net.

Serves: i need to push a little more (but i need to verify, i was very tired yesterday in the 4th set) but sliced serves are perfect, i can make a short ball (in slice) more easily.

I can use forehand easily and it keeps the ball in the field if i'm in the sweet-spot or around it.

I still need to fix my backhand but i used it not so much and a lot of time in recovery, but today i count to play 2 hours again.

Cons:

Forehand too on the sides when i try to cross the ball or to push something more, but maybe this is a technique problem, i will have to investigate from the videos, to understand if i'm wrong position or the movement is not correct.

The 660 frame is bigger and permit more recovery in hard situation, with the 630 i had some problem to recover on sides shots, i will have to run before or faster :)

3 hours are not enough to give the final feeling, i will have to test it more, hope today to play other 2 hours and tomorrow too, in the while i found another racquet Head Pro Tour Lite 630, if it has the same frame and the same characteristic of the PT280/630 i will buy like second racquet, from that i read, it would be lighter, that could be good, i can add weight if i need, but i read also it is head heavier, i will need to add some weight on the butt cap ? If so how much ? I would like to have 2 identical racquet with 2 lightly different setups, just to try different strings.

A good news for me, my calf seems fixed properly, also if yesterday i left some balls because i didn't want to stretch it again.

Let me know what you think.

mavtop


It is a great control frame, great for volleys and all round game. If you add more weight you might have too much static weight. depends what you are comfortable with. The lite tour 630 green one is the same mold, and only 300grams strung with 8points head light, there is also an XL version.

https://www.prostocktennis.com/products/head-lite-tour-630-made-in-austria
 

mavtop

New User
It is a great control frame, great for volleys and all round game. If you add more weight you might have too much static weight. depends what you are comfortable with. The lite tour 630 green one is the same mold, and only 300grams strung with 8points head light, there is also an XL version.

https://www.prostocktennis.com/products/head-lite-tour-630-made-in-austria

Yes i got the green one.

So is it only lighter ? Other differences ? Do i need to put some weight on ?

I would like to have 2 similar racquets with same strings but different tensions

I read the lite is head heavier and someone recommend to put some weight in the butt cap.

How i know if do i need some weight ? How do i recognize it while playing tennis ?

I could use a leather grip for this, so i can add some weight, right ?
 
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DJ-

Hall of Fame
Yes i got the green one.

So is it only lighter ? Other differences ? Do i need to put some weight on ?

I would like to have 2 similar racquets with same strings but different tensions

I read the lite is head heavier and someone recommend to put some weight in the butt cap.

How i know if do i need some weight ? How do i recognize it while playing tennis ?


It is up to you if you want to put weight on, you can do it by lead, bluetac in handle, silicone, or leather grip with lead at 12 o'clock e.t.c
Get a racquet you love, get the specs like balance from a stringer, work out what you like playing with. For me more weight = more control / stability.
Get a heavy leather grip and maybe some more weight in the handle, i'm not an expert on the mathematics, but look at the lead tape customization thread and grip thread I posted. Some leather grips have added 12-16 grams for me.

Here is the balance chart

For a 27” frame

Even balance = 34.30
1pt head light = 33.98
2 pts head light = 33.66
3 pts head light = 33.35
4 pts head light = 33.03
5 pts head light = 32.71
6 pts head light = 32.39
7 pts head light = 32.08
8 pts head light = 31.76
9 pts head light = 31.44
10 pts head light = 31.12
11 pts head light = 30.81
12 pts head light = 30.49
 

mavtop

New User
It is up to you if you want to put weight on, you can do it by lead, bluetac in handle, silicone, or leather grip with lead at 12 o'clock e.t.c
Get a racquet you love, get the specs like balance from a stringer, work out what you like playing with. For me more weight = more control / stability.
Get a heavy leather grip and maybe some more weight in the handle, i'm not an expert on the mathematics, but look at the lead tape customization thread and grip thread I posted. Some leather grips have added 12-16 grams for me.

Here is the balance chart

For a 27” frame

Even balance = 34.30
1pt head light = 33.98
2 pts head light = 33.66
3 pts head light = 33.35
4 pts head light = 33.03
5 pts head light = 32.71
6 pts head light = 32.39
7 pts head light = 32.08
8 pts head light = 31.76
9 pts head light = 31.44
10 pts head light = 31.12
11 pts head light = 30.81
12 pts head light = 30.49

Ok but it is 8 point head heavier, so how to revert it ? i think it is impossible to bring it to a Head Lighter setup or not ?
 

DJ-

Hall of Fame
Ok but it is 8 point head heavier, so how to revert it ? i think it is impossible to bring it to a Head Lighter setup or not ?

Get a real heavy grip leather or synthetic, look in the grip thread to see what is heavy and you can get in your area or on the net. Then measure the balance. This will then tell you how much you will need to add. A stringer or racquet shop should be able to do this without problems. If you can get it to at least 33cm balance you might be happy with that..
 

mavtop

New User
It is up to you if you want to put weight on, you can do it by lead, bluetac in handle, silicone, or leather grip with lead at 12 o'clock e.t.c
Get a racquet you love, get the specs like balance from a stringer, work out what you like playing with. For me more weight = more control / stability.
Get a heavy leather grip and maybe some more weight in the handle, i'm not an expert on the mathematics, but look at the lead tape customization thread and grip thread I posted. Some leather grips have added 12-16 grams for me.

Here is the balance chart

For a 27” frame

Even balance = 34.30
1pt head light = 33.98
2 pts head light = 33.66
3 pts head light = 33.35
4 pts head light = 33.03
5 pts head light = 32.71
6 pts head light = 32.39
7 pts head light = 32.08
8 pts head light = 31.76
9 pts head light = 31.44
10 pts head light = 31.12
11 pts head light = 30.81
12 pts head light = 30.49

Ok but it is 8 point head heavier, so how to revert it ? i think it is impossible to bring it to a Head Lighter setup or not ?
 

mavtop

New User
Get a real heavy grip leather or synthetic, look in the grip thread to see what is heavy and you can get in your area or on the net. Then measure the balance. This will then tell you how much you will need to add. A stringer or racquet shop should be able to do this without problems. If you can get it to at least 33cm balance you might be happy with that..

Yes the Pro Tour 280 is 32cm like balance, so i suppose around 33cm would be enough :)

thanks for your help, i really appreciate it

and i really love the Pro Tour 280 racquet, i choose it thank to this post
 
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MatthewH.

Rookie
Any suggested hybrid string set ups on the PT280? Or any soft poly string that works well? I'm trying to find something with some pop and also arm friendly.
 

1990's Graphite

Hall of Fame
Yes i got the green one.

So is it only lighter ? Other differences ? Do i need to put some weight on ?

I would like to have 2 similar racquets with same strings but different tensions

I read the lite is head heavier and someone recommend to put some weight in the butt cap.

How i know if do i need some weight ? How do i recognize it while playing tennis ?

I could use a leather grip for this, so i can add some weight, right ?

Green version = NO TWARON
 

mavtop

New User
Green version = NO TWARON

argggggg so i can't have two similar racquets ?

i would like to have 2 racquets with similar specs but different strings setup to try (different tensions or type of strings).

My Pro Tour 280 strung weigh 344 grams with Full cap, Head hydrosorb grip 1,8mm and head overgrip extreme soft 0,5mm

i will have to search for another pro tour 630 or 280
 
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1990's Graphite

Hall of Fame
argggggg so i can't have two similar racquets ?

i would like to have 2 racquets with similar specs but different strings setup to try (different tensions or type of strings).

My Pro Tour 280 strung weigh 344 grams with Full cap, Head hydrosorb grip 1,8mm and head overgrip extreme soft 0,5mm

i will have to search for another pro tour 630 or 280

At our level you may not even notice the twaron difference. You have 40 grams to play with to get it to the specs of your pt280. People here have leaded up ad used silicone in the lite tour to get it up to desired specs with great results! Give it a try.. nothing to lose.
 

mavtop

New User
Thats not correct! The green Lite Tour 630 and the Lite Tour eXtra Long have Twaron...

hmm ok better, so, i'm thinking to make Pro Tour lite 630 lighter than Pro Tour 280 at the beginning and try it, so i can understand if it is better or worst for my needs.

I was thinking to target the weight at 320-330 grams (24 or 14 grams in less, i don't know if difference is noticeable).

Lead-up where ? on the frame on under the butt cap ? I thought to use a very heavier grip, maybe a leather grip around 24-25gr, so i would reach the 310-315grams then add some weight to balance it better, but where to put it ?
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
hmm ok better, so, i'm thinking to make Pro Tour lite 630 lighter than Pro Tour 280 at the beginning and try it, so i can understand if it is better or worst for my needs.

I was thinking to target the weight at 320-330 grams (24 or 14 grams in less, i don't know if difference is noticeable).

Lead-up where ? on the frame on under the butt cap ? I thought to use a very heavier grip, maybe a leather grip around 24-25gr, so i would reach the 310-315grams then add some weight to balance it better, but where to put it ?
weigh your racquet on a scale and measure the balance and then put the lead where you think it needs it.
 

MatthewH.

Rookie
Gut / poly best way to go in these gems!
Poly worthy mentions, Wilson revolve, Kirschbaum spikey, solinco tourbite and Hyper G

Thx! I gotta try a gut hybrid. I'm a string breaker tho so I'm also curious of any more economical hybrid options? I ordered some 17 gauge Wilson Revolve so gonna try that too bc I've heard it's pretty arm friendly.
 

1990's Graphite

Hall of Fame
Thx! I gotta try a gut hybrid. I'm a string breaker tho so I'm also curious of any more economical hybrid options? I ordered some 17 gauge Wilson Revolve so gonna try that too bc I've heard it's pretty arm friendly.

I have used micro sheep syn gut in full bed (Courier) and hybrids poly/syn gut and works great. Hyper G felt so good in 16guage. I have only once broken a string in these sticks and that was a thin guage like 18 or so...
 

mavtop

New User
Ok another day with my PT280 (3h and half of play) strung at 26/25kg with Babolat Xcel Limited 1,30mm 16G.

40 mins of warm-up then matches, won a double 6-2 3-6 7-6 (Tie Break 7-3).

My elbow (not exactly elbow i suppose, but arm muscle) and my right thigh's quadricep has maden me crazy.

Never had these problems, but yesterday i pushed a lot of forehand and serves (my serves are becoming very strong, 2 aces never done before).

What tell after 12-13 hours of play ?

Control is the main feature that i love, i can decide where to put the ball and the ball will go there.

Still some problems with backhand, but i'm learning how to use better, my forehand is very good and now i'm trying to push it harder to see if it is still controllable, and i think it is so.

Slices are hard to receive like 1st serves when they are in the field, i'm learning how to give more power and when all the steps are perfect my 1st serve is really damn fast.

Lately i'm using lot less the topspin, i need to train it before to use and usually we have few time for that for now.

We are growing like number of players, we could be in 6 tomorrow, so we can try also a tournament :)

Anyway my Pro Tour Lite 630 is coming, i suspect in 2 days, and i would like to try something lighter, cheap and arm friendly.

I was thinking about synthetic gut like Gosen Sheep Micro o Super Micro.

I don't know if it is better doing hybrid or not.

If someone has something to suggest, i would like to stay cheap, i saw also some Gamma gut, i think to use always 16G strings for now.

Please someone that is using them let me know how long they last and how is the feeling.

I like control but also direction, if possible some topspin (but before i will have to learn).

The PT Lite 630 would be lighter, but i will have to add some weight (it is head heavier) but i suppose that i will reach about 320 grams so 20-24 grams less than PT280 so i would have less pain on the arm, so i hope.

I can remove the full cap on the PT280 in the future so i would recover 8-10 grams, anyway any hints are welcomed
 

MatthewH.

Rookie
I have used micro sheep syn gut in full bed (Courier) and hybrids poly/syn gut and works great. Hyper G felt so good in 16guage. I have only once broken a string in these sticks and that was a thin guage like 18 or so...

You've tried SynGut mains Poly crosses as well as the reverse? If so what were your thoughts? Also, what gauge would you recommend in the hybrid? Thx!
 

1990's Graphite

Hall of Fame
You've tried SynGut mains Poly crosses as well as the reverse? If so what were your thoughts? Also, what gauge would you recommend in the hybrid? Thx!


Full bed syngut at 57ish. Poly mains at 54 or 55 and syngut cross at 53 all 16guage. Haven't tried syngut mains poly cross. Mains do most of work so hence poly mains for control and spin.
 

DJ-

Hall of Fame
Ok another day with my PT280 (3h and half of play) strung at 26/25kg with Babolat Xcel Limited 1,30mm 16G.

40 mins of warm-up then matches, won a double 6-2 3-6 7-6 (Tie Break 7-3).

My elbow (not exactly elbow i suppose, but arm muscle) and my right thigh's quadricep has maden me crazy.

Never had these problems, but yesterday i pushed a lot of forehand and serves (my serves are becoming very strong, 2 aces never done before).

What tell after 12-13 hours of play ?

Control is the main feature that i love, i can decide where to put the ball and the ball will go there.

Still some problems with backhand, but i'm learning how to use better, my forehand is very good and now i'm trying to push it harder to see if it is still controllable, and i think it is so.

Slices are hard to receive like 1st serves when they are in the field, i'm learning how to give more power and when all the steps are perfect my 1st serve is really damn fast.

Lately i'm using lot less the topspin, i need to train it before to use and usually we have few time for that for now.

We are growing like number of players, we could be in 6 tomorrow, so we can try also a tournament :)

Anyway my Pro Tour Lite 630 is coming, i suspect in 2 days, and i would like to try something lighter, cheap and arm friendly.

I was thinking about synthetic gut like Gosen Sheep Micro o Super Micro.

I don't know if it is better doing hybrid or not.

If someone has something to suggest, i would like to stay cheap, i saw also some Gamma gut, i think to use always 16G strings for now.

Please someone that is using them let me know how long they last and how is the feeling.

I like control but also direction, if possible some topspin (but before i will have to learn).

The PT Lite 630 would be lighter, but i will have to add some weight (it is head heavier) but i suppose that i will reach about 320 grams so 20-24 grams less than PT280 so i would have less pain on the arm, so i hope.


I can remove the full cap on the PT280 in the future so i would recover 8-10 grams, anyway any hints are welcomed



Why don't you try a poly that you like in the mains like your Xcel at 54lbs, and a synthetic gut like micro sheep (gamma isn't the best in my opinion)
in the crosses at like 52lbs. This will give you spin, control, and comfort. Don't forget no need to string too high, unless it's too hot. The pt280 isn't really a 98sq in head, it's more like 96sqin

The caps add 10 grams, so once you remove them you will have a more headlight racquet and also 10grams less, around the 335g mark.
 

mavtop

New User
Why don't you try a poly that you like in the mains like your Xcel at 54lbs, and a synthetic gut like micro sheep (gamma isn't the best in my opinion)
in the crosses at like 52lbs. This will give you spin, control, and comfort. Don't forget no need to string too high, unless it's too hot. The pt280 isn't really a 98sq in head, it's more like 96sqin

The caps add 10 grams, so once you remove them you will have a more headlight racquet and also 10grams less, around the 335g mark.

Infact i was thinking to try several things:

The temperature is around 36 celcius when i play then go lower, we play in later afternoon (around 5:00 pm up to 9:00 pm)

1a) Wilson Poly Pro 1,35mm 15g on mains at tension around 55lbs - 25kg
1b) Ashaway Liberty Synthetic Gut 1,30mm 16g on crosses at tension around 53lbs - 24kg

2) Gosen OG Sheep Micro 2 1,28mm 16L or Gamma Synthetic Gut 1,30mm 16G on mains and crosses around 56lbs - 25,5kg / 54lbs - 24,5kg

3) any other suggestion

I'm not expert but i would like to try several strings with this racquet and the PT lite 630 that is coming (i suppose i would get it tomorrow at max), so i would like something cheap and durable.

I also would like to know if someone has tried synthetic gut on mains and poly or mono on crosses and if it could be a good choice for the PT280.

I'm thinking to remove the caps, maybe i can cut them with a knife until i get the new one, is it easy install the grommet ? In the while i will order some grommet without caps, there is a better version of the cheaper LiquidMetal (LM) Radical MidPlus (MP) that i can use on the PT280 ?

thanks for any advice
mavtop
 

DJ-

Hall of Fame
Infact i was thinking to try several things:

The temperature is around 36 celcius when i play then go lower, we play in later afternoon (around 5:00 pm up to 9:00 pm)

1a) Wilson Poly Pro 1,35mm 15g on mains at tension around 55lbs - 25kg
1b) Ashaway Liberty Synthetic Gut 1,30mm 16g on crosses at tension around 53lbs - 24kg

2) Gosen OG Sheep Micro 2 1,28mm 16L or Gamma Synthetic Gut 1,30mm 16G on mains and crosses around 56lbs - 25,5kg / 54lbs - 24,5kg

3) any other suggestion

I'm not expert but i would like to try several strings with this racquet and the PT lite 630 that is coming (i suppose i would get it tomorrow at max), so i would like something cheap and durable.

I also would like to know if someone has tried synthetic gut on mains and poly or mono on crosses and if it could be a good choice for the PT280.

I'm thinking to remove the caps, maybe i can cut them with a knife until i get the new one, is it easy install the grommet ? In the while i will order some grommet without caps, there is a better version of the cheaper LiquidMetal (LM) Radical MidPlus (MP) that i can use on the PT280 ?

thanks for any advice
mavtop


Installing grommets is easier rather than removing old ones according to stringers here... I would leave it to them rather than risk damaging them with a knife. Syngut mains is more popular as a cross as stated above, I also think poly mains will last you longer. Try syn gut in a full bed, you may like it. Gosen feels too stiff in full bed for me, and also lack of spin / control.
 

mavtop

New User
Installing grommets is easier rather than removing old ones according to stringers here... I would leave it to them rather than risk damaging them with a knife. Syngut mains is more popular as a cross as stated above, I also think poly mains will last you longer. Try syn gut in a full bed, you may like it. Gosen feels too stiff in full bed for me, and also lack of spin / control.

So do you think i can mix 2 synthetic guts, like Ashaway Liberty with Gosen OG Sheep Micro 2 ? Which on mains and which on crosses ? Or if you have other advices

For the grommet i will do making the job to the strunger if he will do.
 

DJ-

Hall of Fame
So do you think i can mix 2 synthetic guts, like Ashaway Liberty with Gosen OG Sheep Micro 2 ? Which on mains and which on crosses ? Or if you have other advices

For the grommet i will do making the job to the strunger if he will do.

I don't see the point of mixing two synthetic guts ? My favourites are prince duraflex and gosen og sheep. I am not sure if I know anyone who has used two different synguts... Give it a go, will be interesting!
 

mavtop

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I don't see the point of mixing two synthetic guts ? My favourites are prince duraflex and gosen og sheep. I am not sure if I know anyone who has used two different synguts... Give it a go, will be interesting!

i read that a lot of people use a full bed of synthetic gut, so i thought to mix 2 synthetic gut, to have some best of one and the best of the other, if i wanted to do it, which one would i keep on the mains and which one on the crosses ?

I want control, manovrability and some top (also if use less in these last matches) and the strings would be Ashaway Liberty and Gosen OG sheep micro 2, which one on the mains ?
 

DJ-

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Gosen will last you way longer than ashaway, so I would put the more durable in the mains which is Gosen. Ashaway I think is softer so crosses seems logical. Ashway plays good for the first two hours according to users... Gosen will last way longer, maybe it is better full bed of Gosen ? If you have the string try it out, it may work for you..
 

mavtop

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Gosen will last you way longer than ashaway, so I would put the more durable in the mains which is Gosen. Ashaway I think is softer so crosses seems logical. Ashway plays good for the first two hours according to users... Gosen will last way longer, maybe it is better full bed of Gosen ? If you have the string try it out, it may work for you..

Only two hours ??? I would like to go cheap to spend less money, but if they will last 2 hours, i will have to change every week ?

Ok i will try someother synthetic gut.

I could begin to test the Gosen in full bed and see how it works.
 
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Only two hours ??? I would like to go cheap to spend less money, but if they will last 2 hours, i will have to change every week ?

Ok i will try someother synthetic gut.

I could begin to test the Gosen in full bed and see how it works.

I think that is a better option. Gosen is more durable.
 

mavtop

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Yesterday i played again with the PT 280, more time passes and more i get in love with it.

3 hours of play: 10 mins of warm-up, then 2h e 50min of match in double, we won 1st 5-7 2nd 6-2 3rd 7-5, then another set 3-6 to reach the 3 hours of play.

I played very well, the control is superb (i know i already told you from first day, but it become always better or maybe i'm learning the racquet each day more).

Each-one of my shots went where i wanted and with a surgical precision, my volleys were fantastic, i put them where i really wanted, same with the smashes.

My slices are always harder to receive, very fast and low, and i use them to reach the net and then volley/smash the ball.

I tried to serve only sliced serves, trying to add more slice and more power, and they were good, yesterday i didn't serve flat, only sliced, i want to have more first serve choices and i needed to try a better sliced serves.

I think my arm little pain is because i never used the upper arm muscles in this way, infact more i use the racquet and more that pain reduces.

I got also my Pro Tour Lite 630, tomorrow i will check the weight and the balance just to see what i need to do to bring it closer to the PT 280 and i will check if i can use like a second racquet, where i will try some strings setup.

With the Pro Tour Lite 630 i got another racquet a "evo" something 660, tomorrow i will post some photos of both with their features (what i can find myself).

Anyway, my playstyle is growing up each day, together with my technique, also my one handed forehand is growing, not like my forehand, but it is enough for now, i prefer to use a lot of slices on the backhand, but i will have to use also some flat/topspin, but i will need to learn the technique for that.
 
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mavtop

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^ the honeymoon will be over within 2 weeks, me feels

are you referring to my post ?

if so, i played already over 2 weeks with this stick (considering i play 3 times in a week, 3 hours each one, if not more), before i tried an Head Competition 660 (for 3 times) and it was similar (but not the same, lighter for me, but with great recovery for the frame bigger).

I don't know if the tension is loosing in the while (maybe a little, i'm not an hard hitter or great topspinner), but i play each time better, repeat i don't know if it depends that i'm learning how to use it better or depends from the string tension, or other, but my playstyle is becoming always better, i decide what to do, and voila' it becomes true. I want to send the ball on the line, and the ball go there, i want to cross, i want to slice or i want to volley there and it is so easy.

Repeat maybe it depends on our level of tennis, we are novices, not pro, just playing with our teammate, but we are almost at the same level, there is only one just a little over the others, in single he won against all of us.

But doubles are another story, you have to cover, attack, the teammate is important more than yourself, if he is the black hole, all the balls will go to him. Tactics are more imporant than playstyle if people is at the same level.

Anyway back to the stick, i used it from 13-07-2016 for 16-17 hours, latest yesterday, the next will be on monday next week.

Holidays are really close, so i'm not sure that i will be able to find someone to training me in august, then at september i will have my holidays, so this week could be the last for now, i hope not, i'm really enjoying to play tennis again, after more than 20 years.

I feel like a children with a new toy :)
 

mavtop

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Ok i got my Pro Tour Lite 630,

here the info i got:

Lenght: 68,5 cm (like the PT280 that i have)

Weight strung, with grip and overgrip: 305 grams (the PT280 with grip and overgrip strung weighes 344 grams, so i have 39 grams to reach that target, but i want to try to stay lower 10 grams if possible)

Frame width: 21-22mm, i don't have a caliber (the PT280 is 20mm)

Balance: 39-39,5cm (the PT280 is around 32cm) here i will need to fix these 7-8 cm.

That overgrip green by head is really awful, i removed it with the grip under it and i discovered it has the same size of the PT280 i have.

I was thinking to add a leather grip (maybe Gamma 25 grams) with an overgrip on it by Head Black Xtreme Soft (8,5 grams), in this way i will move a little the balance, then i will have to add some weight on the buttcap, silicone or lead tape, i don't know, i will have to verify.

Here the photos:

Pro Tour Lite 630
20160723_152306_zpsymhwvohe.jpg


Made in Austria
20160723_154646_zpsddm9qheq.jpg


Bumper Guard
20160723_152317_zpspgrjbnmh.jpg


Awful Green Overgrip
20160723_152327_zpsnim6a2qm.jpg


Tour Series
20160723_152337_zpswxgj0gbi.jpg


Overgrip and Grip removed
20160723_154633_zpsgxpjdnyp.jpg
 
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Ok i got my Pro Tour Lite 630,

here the info i got:

Lenght: 68,5 cm (like the PT280 that i have)

Weight strung, with grip and overgrip: 305 grams (the PT280 with grip and overgrip strung weighes 344 grams, so i have 39 grams to reach that target, but i want to try to stay lower 10 grams if possible)

Frame width: 21-22mm, i don't have a caliber (the PT280 is 20mm)

Balance: 39-39,5cm (the PT280 is around 32cm) here i will need to fix these 7-8 cm.

That overgrip green by head is really awful, i removed it with the grip under it and i discovered it has the same size of the PT280 i have.

I was thinking to add a leather grip (maybe Gamma 25 grams) with an overgrip on it by Head Black Xtreme Soft (8,5 grams), in this way i will move a little the balance, then i will have to add some weight on the buttcap, silicone or lead tape, i don't know, i will have to verify.

Here the photos:

Pro Tour Lite 630
20160723_152306_zpsymhwvohe.jpg


Made in Austria
20160723_154646_zpsddm9qheq.jpg


Bumper Guard
20160723_152317_zpspgrjbnmh.jpg


Awful Green Overgrip
20160723_152327_zpsnim6a2qm.jpg


Tour Series
20160723_152337_zpswxgj0gbi.jpg


Overgrip and Grip removed
20160723_154633_zpsgxpjdnyp.jpg

It is in a nice condition!!
 
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