Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable - need some feedback

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
This doesn't make sense. I am not doubting your observation, however it would seem that the smooth cross would perhaps GET notched by the shaped mains not DO the notching to the mains.
After some more play time with this set up he is right. The Revolve crosses are notching the UC mains. The Revolve isn't notched at all. I strung them at the same tension so I'm guessing that it's due to string stiffness and that the Revolve is a stiffer string than UC.
 

scf

Semi-Pro
I have Pure Aero strung with revolve at 26/25, and Pro Drive strung with UC at 26/25. After two weeks of play revolve notched itself, UC didn't.
 

SCRAP IRON

Professional
After some more play time with this set up he is right. The Revolve crosses are notching the UC mains. The Revolve isn't notched at all. I strung them at the same tension so I'm guessing that it's due to string stiffness and that the Revolve is a stiffer string than UC.

I should thank you because I was about to string my racket with that same exact set up. It seems like you can't win when it comes to certain hybrids. Theoretically, a smooth poly cross with the shaped mains should result in spin heaven, but now I'm not sure what to do!
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
After some more play time with this set up he is right. The Revolve crosses are notching the UC mains. The Revolve isn't notched at all. I strung them at the same tension so I'm guessing that it's due to string stiffness and that the Revolve is a stiffer string than UC.

I think that's the case with just about any string. The crosses stay in place and become rails for the mains to slide over them. Therefore, it is the mains that are mostly notched. I suppose if the stringbed is completely locked, then you might see some notching in the cross string.
 

SCRAP IRON

Professional
I think that's the case with just about any string. The crosses stay in place and become rails for the mains to slide over them. Therefore, it is the mains that are mostly notched. I suppose if the stringbed is completely locked, then you might see some notching in the cross string.

An argument can be made that smooth, round polys theoretically will give you longer, more consistent performance albeit without excessive spin.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
An argument can be made that smooth, round polys theoretically will give you longer, more consistent performance albeit without excessive spin.

Revolve gives me as much spin as the best of the shaped strings out there, but my point is that in any combination (be it smooth/smooth, rough/smooth, smooth/rought, etc), you will see far more notching on the mains than on the crosses.
 

Demented

Semi-Pro
The UC is very soft for a poly.. the revolve cuts right into it. The UC is a very thick string so it creates a really deep notch that is very steep instead of a valley. I thought this would lead to great horizontal movement but apparently it requires a little verticle movement as the string slides. I'll probably go back to all UC and start experimenting with different tension and prestretching.
 

o0lunatik

Professional
The UC is very soft for a poly.. the revolve cuts right into it. The UC is a very thick string so it creates a really deep notch that is very steep instead of a valley. I thought this would lead to great horizontal movement but apparently it requires a little verticle movement as the string slides. I'll probably go back to all UC and start experimenting with different tension and prestretching.

UC is definitely a nice string to try out, esp for the spin characteristic. I do have a couple of UC mains break on me from mishits during the first outings. Just be careful pulling the first and/or second cross through, b/c it'll easily eat into the soft main and will compromise the integrity of the string.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Have tried UC twice now and really am impressed, great spin and feel but the control is as good as it gets. I can take big cuts and the ball still stays in. On serves I thought I would get great spin serves but so far not noticing a big increase in spin on serves. But I can hit hit hard flat serves and they go down in the box very good, seems like you are rewarded for hitting the ball harder with this string.

For return of serve this string is excellent, slices and drop shots are as good as it gets. I think this string is what I have been looking for. I am going to try the Rock and power which I hear is just a thinner version of UC.
 

o0lunatik

Professional
Ultra cable is surprisingly very slick and snap back for a shaped string is superb. Much better than tour bite and hyper g for sure. I find my experience very similar to what @tlm stated above. I am very close to play solely with ultra cable.
 
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tlm

G.O.A.T.
Ultra cable is surprisingly very slick and snap back for a shaped string is superb. Much better than tour bite for sure. I find my experience very similar to what @tlm stated above. I am very close to play solely with ultra cable.

I agree the stuff is really nice, if it last even a decent amount of time I am going to switch to it. I am anxious to try the thinner gauge.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Bb original way better

To each their own but bb original to me is not even close to UC. BB has great control, feel, and keeps its playability longer than any poly I have used. But it does not have the magic that UC has, nowhere near the spin and bite.
 

spinerella

New User
I'm considering trying UC with the Weiss Cannon Mosquito Bite as a cross for more power. Mains: Ultra Cable @54; Crosses: Mosquito Bite @57.
Any thoughts on that set up?

Thanks!

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tlm

G.O.A.T.
I'm considering trying UC with the Weiss Cannon Mosquito Bite as a cross for more power. Mains: Ultra Cable @54; Crosses: Mosquito Bite @57.
Any thoughts on that set up?

Thanks!

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Give it a try it should work well I'm thinking of using UC with the Rock and power as a cross.
 
To each their own but bb original to me is not even close to UC. BB has great control, feel, and keeps its playability longer than any poly I have used. But it does not have the magic that UC has, nowhere near the spin and bite.

I don't need a magic string and I agree it has more bite so you can swing out of your shoes for a few hours.
Maybe good for someone who plays tennis for a living. Solinco hyper G is popular with some tour players.
 

scf

Semi-Pro
I haven't checked the tension just after the stringing with racquet tune, so don't know the initial tension. But during last 10 days it dropped just 300g.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.

I don't need a magic string and I agree it has more bite so you can swing out of your shoes for a few hours.
Maybe good for someone who plays tennis for a living. Solinco hyper G is popular with some tour players.

I do need a
Magic string and especially one that I can swing out of my shoes with.
 

SCRAP IRON

Professional
Give it a try it should work well I'm thinking of using UC with the Rock and power as a cross.

Why not get the Blue Rock and Power Hybrid set from Weiss Cannon? Additionally, that new string is a thinner gauge (17) than UC, which is a gauge I have always liked.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Why not get the Blue Rock and Power Hybrid set from Weiss Cannon? Additionally, that new string is a thinner gauge (17) than UC, which is a gauge I have always liked.

I wasn't sure about the hybrid so I just ordered a set couple of sets of UC and blue rock and power and then will make my own hybrid.
 

o0lunatik

Professional
I do need a
Magic string and especially one that I can swing out of my shoes with.

One of a few reasons why UC is magic is how it resists twisting when stringing, where the main and cross lay perfectly straight and squared on itself. There may be occasional twisting at the first and last cross but that's normal. I've strung many reels of tour bite (TB) and about to finish my first reel of UC, and TB is more prone to twisting than UC.

Here are a couple of pics from last night's string jobs of the perfectly straight UC layout. There were no cautionary steps taken. Just string as fast and efficient as I can as usual.

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tlm

G.O.A.T.
One of a few reasons why UC is magic is how it resists twisting when stringing, where the main and cross lay perfectly straight and squared on itself. There may be occasional twisting at the first and last cross but that's normal. I've strung many reels of tour bite (TB) and about to finish my first reel of UC, and TB is more prone to twisting than UC.

Here are a couple of pics from last night's string jobs of the perfectly straight UC layout. There were no cautionary steps taken. Just string as fast and efficient as I can as usual.

4idf79.jpg

2cfqfqt.jpg

So are you saying because they lay so flat and uniform that they snap back more efficiently?
 

o0lunatik

Professional
So are you saying because they lay so flat and uniform that they snap back more efficiently?

Yes. That's another great aspect. Also the slick coating, silicone or whatever it is, seems to be pretty durable. All which contribute to the nice snapback ability.
 

QuadCam

Professional
Just like oolunatic said, i don't get any twisting of the string when stringing and I'm not doing anything special to prevent it. Very nice.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
I tried the Weiss Cannon rock and blue power which I believe is their thinner version of ultra cable. Not sure if it's better than the UC. I will test it some more but I think the UC is the better string.
 

spinerella

New User
tlm,

Other than Blue Rock n Power being thinner than UC, what's the difference in spin, comfort, power, control, stiffness? Also, what makes UC better?

Thanks!

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tlm

G.O.A.T.
They are similar I think it is just a thinner version. I only purchased one set and would need a
Few sets to try it at different tensions.

I like the UC better because the control seemed better. As far as feel goes they are pretty close.
 

galapagos

Hall of Fame
Compared to solinco hyper g 1.20. Hyper G has imo a bit more power, more comfort. Spin is very similar. I think I prefer hyper g overall
 

o0lunatik

Professional
Any recommendations on a hybrid for UC? I have half a set and a bunch of other string.

It plays excellent with alu power or cyberflash. Something along that line, but it's even better full bed. Snap back characteristic is prob the best I've seen of any poly. Tour bite and hyper G lose the snap back ability a couple of hours of hard hitting but UC keeps on snapping resulting in a consistent string bed and excellent spin. Plus the edges don't smoothen out.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
It plays excellent with alu power or cyberflash. Something along that line, but it's even better full bed. Snap back characteristic is prob the best I've seen of any poly. Tour bite and hyper G lose the snap back ability a couple of hours of hard hitting but UC keeps on snapping resulting in a consistent string bed and excellent spin. Plus the edges don't smoothen out.
Damn. Wish I wouldn't have hybrided it. I may try it with silverstring or kirschbaum pro line evolution.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Damn. Wish I wouldn't have hybrided it. I may try it with silverstring or kirschbaum pro line evolution.

I'm getting a spool this week so I may end up trying some hybrid set ups. But I like it in a full job so much that I may just stay with that.
 

QuadCam

Professional
Compared to solinco hyper g 1.20. Hyper G has imo a bit more power, more comfort. Spin is very similar. I think I prefer hyper g overall
For me, Hyper G has better tension maintenance and higher power compared to Ultra Cable.

I'm still thinking Ultra Cable may be the best spin string on the market but (at low tensions) it's a play 1 match and cutout string for me.

I have a few sets of UC to play with. It's best so far in the low 40s but it's time to switch racquets every set or every match. I think UC will have longer playability strung in the 50s but it may not be as special as when strung low.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I haven't tried rpm blast rough but I have used rpm blast and it is great for the first few hours then it turns into unplayable crap.
it is made with different material. this is softer string, I think it last a lot longer than its predecessor
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
For me, Hyper G has better tension maintenance and higher power compared to Ultra Cable.

I'm still thinking Ultra Cable may be the best spin string on the market but (at low tensions) it's a play 1 match and cutout string for me.

I have a few sets of UC to play with. It's best so far in the low 40s but it's time to switch racquets every set or every match. I think UC will have longer playability strung in the 50s but it may not be as special as when strung low.

So your saying that the UC loses its magic that quickly? I am going to put a new set in and use a 4G cross hoping to get even better control and a longer playing stringbed.
 
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