CopolyX
Hall of Fame
NRMM
Semi-Pro
do you think that Wilson NXT Control string would be a good alternative as I definitely look for control above all things? Also this has been the conversation that led me to use wilson revolve 17....
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?posts/11702566/
HA ! and BTW this would be for a Wilson SW104 .........
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CopolyX
Hall of Fame
Never used it
here is a tw review on it
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/NXTC16/NXTC16Review.html
Thou you be going from a copoly to a multi ..
note: isospeed cream is a nice soft copoly.
all copolys will have a element of control which can be adjusted by tension.
here is a tw review on it
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/NXTC16/NXTC16Review.html
Thou you be going from a copoly to a multi ..
note: isospeed cream is a nice soft copoly.
all copolys will have a element of control which can be adjusted by tension.
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NRMM
Semi-Pro
thanks.. pros and cons of moving from copoly to a multi? control on copolys meaning the higher tension the more control? going to check isospeed, cheers!
Notirouswithag
Professional
as a former user of nxt and dabbler in revolve I made the switch to Isospeed cream(use it as a cross string in my hybrid and havent looked back) I can say that isospeed is worlds better than either nxt or revolve.
I used to use NXT as a cross string in my hybrid but its a multi filament string which means it breaks fastest out of the 3 mentioned. It last typically 1 week or 2 for me depending on how often I was playing and hitting.
Since switching to isospeed (its a co-poly)i have yet to break a string. its got superior tension maintenance and playabillity. I always end up cutting out cream and restringing well before I typically should be. Also I get fantastic topspin from it while being able to hit flat shots as well and the comfort is certainly there. NXT was very comfortable but Cream is even more comfortable
I used to use NXT as a cross string in my hybrid but its a multi filament string which means it breaks fastest out of the 3 mentioned. It last typically 1 week or 2 for me depending on how often I was playing and hitting.
Since switching to isospeed (its a co-poly)i have yet to break a string. its got superior tension maintenance and playabillity. I always end up cutting out cream and restringing well before I typically should be. Also I get fantastic topspin from it while being able to hit flat shots as well and the comfort is certainly there. NXT was very comfortable but Cream is even more comfortable
NRMM
Semi-Pro
well, I'd certainly be open to give it a try since you highly recommend it, it's control oriented, has low power and it's cream/natural. However it wouldn't be easy for me to get it with the new racquets from the place where I'm buying.. having said this, I'm on Revolve 17, I like it albeit I notice more errors as I use it more ?!) but I'd like an alternative that wouldn't be coloured at all.. any other suggestions guys?!
Perhaps Head Velocity MLT 16 natural?
Perhaps Head Velocity MLT 16 natural?
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SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
If you want an alternative to revolve spin in the sense that it's supposed to offer similar attributes, then none of the mentioned strings are options. NXT Control is a completely different string and should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Cream is an entrance string to the co-poly world or for those who no longer can handle normal stiffer co-polys.
I think Isospeed Pyramid is natural in color. That one may be worth a try I suppose.
I think Isospeed Pyramid is natural in color. That one may be worth a try I suppose.
Notirouswithag
Professional
Where do you like that it would be hard to get? I believe TW USA/Europe have quick and easy delivery access
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Two other natural coloured polys that might fit the bill better (though less so than pyramid IMO) are Weisscannon Scorpion and Laserfibre Native Tour (at least I believe they are natural coloured).
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
No that's a multi and won't offer the control of a poly.
topspn
Legend
I’m confused, what’s the problem here? You’re buying a Wilson frame and using a Wilson string. Where does this natural color string demand come from? It makes no sense at all and how many polys out there that are natural color to start with that you in addition want to play like revolve spin?
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Babolat Pro Hurricane is a natural coloured poly
If he can get Kirschbaum Helix that’s also an option
NRMM
Semi-Pro
Fair enough, unusual preference which can be seen as irrelevant. Revolve is just because it’s the one I’ve been using and I like it albeit can be hard on wrist and shoulder.. hence this thread.
topspn
Legend
Ok, natural color is purely an aesthetics thing and Revolve is too harsh for you anyway so you don’t really want a string like revolve. Here is a list of polys in natural.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/str...&opt_page=1&opt_sort=alphaAtoZ&opt_perpage=20
I have used Revolve and Cream as mains in a hybrid with Cyclone 19. I loved the low powered, spin crazed set up with Revolve, but I did notice that it was causing discomfort in my elbow especially since I had to take a strong swing every stroke.
I invested in a 10 packs of Isospeed for the next year since generating spin is not my main concern. I also tried Kirschbaum Pro Line II and Topspin CyberFlash. While they don't produce as much topspin as Revolve, they were much more comfortable. My preference was the CyberFlash. It was a little more comfortable, but I remember feeling that the Pro Line II had a slight edge in pop.
I invested in a 10 packs of Isospeed for the next year since generating spin is not my main concern. I also tried Kirschbaum Pro Line II and Topspin CyberFlash. While they don't produce as much topspin as Revolve, they were much more comfortable. My preference was the CyberFlash. It was a little more comfortable, but I remember feeling that the Pro Line II had a slight edge in pop.
NRMM
Semi-Pro
Interesting. So I’ve played with my new Wilson SW104 (a beast with fantastic reach, get your timing right and there’s so much you can do...). I strung it with a full be of Babolat Hurricane Pro 17 at 55lbs - althoifh it seems to work well, sometimes it feels a little bit lively.. this combined with the power that sw104 gets and some misstimings makes a few balls go slightly long.. I’ll play a few more hours with these but thinking that I may well have to change to a more controlled string.. perhaps going back to revolve 17 white (yeah I’m fussy with aesthetics...)
My main racquet is the PS90 although my old PS7.5s have been feeling great with a gut/poly hybrid lately. After testing different poly hybrids over the past couple years, I have been amazed how much they have changed the game. I have always hit with topspin, but now as I age, I am trying to flatten out to end points quicker just as polys have ironically added so much more topspin to the game.
I think Revolve and ALU Rough felt more uncomfortable and under-powered trying to drive through a straight flat shot. However, when trying to fan the ball like Rafa or Sock, the string bed just became much more lively both in terms of spin and power. In a low powered racquet like the PS90, you have the freedom to take a full cut at the ball. Also, you have to take a full cut at the ball or else it becomes a shallow sitter.
Strange... I just realized that never really considered these two strings as "control" oriented strings but as "spin" oriented strings. With Revolve, I felt like I had a much greater margin for error in terms of keeping that ball from sailing by generating heavier topspin, but I never really associated that topspin with pinpoint accuracy. Is that a hidden bias of assuming flat stroke are generally more accurate? I gravitated to the Isospeed Cream because I could vary my spin with greater ease (i.e. flatten out), but I guess the question is: does the spin resulting from the mechanics of the stroke result in greater accuracy in any statistically meaningful way. Huh... sorry for the digression.
I think Revolve and ALU Rough felt more uncomfortable and under-powered trying to drive through a straight flat shot. However, when trying to fan the ball like Rafa or Sock, the string bed just became much more lively both in terms of spin and power. In a low powered racquet like the PS90, you have the freedom to take a full cut at the ball. Also, you have to take a full cut at the ball or else it becomes a shallow sitter.
Strange... I just realized that never really considered these two strings as "control" oriented strings but as "spin" oriented strings. With Revolve, I felt like I had a much greater margin for error in terms of keeping that ball from sailing by generating heavier topspin, but I never really associated that topspin with pinpoint accuracy. Is that a hidden bias of assuming flat stroke are generally more accurate? I gravitated to the Isospeed Cream because I could vary my spin with greater ease (i.e. flatten out), but I guess the question is: does the spin resulting from the mechanics of the stroke result in greater accuracy in any statistically meaningful way. Huh... sorry for the digression.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Depends what you mean. Spin can make you hit some smaller targets though, such as acute angles.
In general I'd portray it as follows: Flat shots are two-dimensionally accurate, while you get a more appropriate level of three-dimensional accuracy once you introduce a significant spin component which allows for varying trajectories
