He is stretched out quite a bit in these, plus he's fedr
He is stretched out quite a bit in these, plus he's fedr
I found tip number 4 very interesting. Hadn’t heard of it before.( starts at 2:24 )
What your coach say though?No Fedr pictures
I'm not sure about this one? I always felt like it's best to keep the head as still as possible when volleying. So you have little disruption when watching the ball, which means more arm movement and less body movement (when the body moves the head moves). Of course, you can't to this all the time.
Tip #4: keeping your racquet head at eye level.I found tip number 4 very interesting. Hadn’t heard of it before.( starts at 2:24 )
the tip i followed, which seems to be a variant of this tip.... "touch your nose to the ball"...I found tip number 4 very interesting. Hadn’t heard of it before.( starts at 2:24 )
the tip i followed, which seems to be a variant of this tip.... "touch your nose to the ball"...
obviously not to be taken literally... but the idea is that in order to accomplish this you need move your feet to "touch your nose"... which hopefully counters most folk's tendency to just reach and swing/swat (with a caveat, that you should keep your back as upright as possible, you'll have to get low with your legs - vs. bend at the waist)
another related tip, "volley with your feet"
Sorry, that's a sucky tip!How about try to see the ball through your strings?
J
the tip i followed, which seems to be a variant of this tip.... "touch your nose to the ball"...
obviously not to be taken literally... but the idea is that in order to accomplish this you need move your feet to "touch your nose"... which hopefully counters most folk's tendency to just reach and swing/swat (with a caveat, that you should keep your back as upright as possible, you'll have to get low with your legs - vs. bend at the waist)
another related tip, "volley with your feet"
How about try to see the ball through your strings?
J
Sorry, that's a sucky tip!
It's impossible to do, even if it's necessary (but it's not).
As said, it's impossible to see the ball through your stringsbut why is is sucky for you?
and tip isn’t a tip unless it’s accompanied with context.
maybe you don’t understand it?
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I like your touch your nose tip!
I can't help but wonder the relevancy of these many tips. Don't you guys have to consider the level of player?
Some tips are truly for newbies, and can be detrimental to higher level players, and some tips are just too advanced for beginners. Just wondering!
As said, it's impossible to see the ball through your strings
Sorry, that's a sucky tip!
It's impossible to do, even if it's necessary (but it's not).
of course. part of any tip is understanding the context... ie “bend your knees on the fh/bh” doesn’t help with shoulder high balls.
similarly a tip for a beginner might be tartgeting a specific progression/evolution of a stroke (ie eastern fh grip for serve)
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I'm not sure about this one? I always felt like it's best to keep the head as still as possible when volleying. So you have little disruption when watching the ball, which means more arm movement and less body movement (when the body moves the head moves). Of course, you can't do this all the time.
it’s also impossible to “read the logo of the incoming ball”... point is that striving to do so is what makes it a useful tip.
seeing the ball hit your strings is also impossible, on say a 50mph fh,... but trying to do so is helpful
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It does. You wait for the ball the drop into your strike zone and bend your knees to load more power.
I understand context. I use judgment to consider looking thru string for volley as impossible in most cases. But who knows, someone may take it and interpret it completely different and work wonder for them.
Not necessarily! Worst it can be detrimental when students don't understand and get frustrated by failing to see the logo.
Instead of "read the logo", it can be taught correctly by tips like focus your eyes on the ball, keep head still. Those things are possible. Start with them first.
That’s also how I interpreted it and made sense to me. But I see some guys here take it too literally. Don’t forget also that this guy in the video is a very advanced player and knows what he’s talking about.the tip i followed, which seems to be a variant of this tip.... "touch your nose to the ball"...
obviously not to be taken literally... but the idea is that in order to accomplish this you need move your feet to "touch your nose"... which hopefully counters most folk's tendency to just reach and swing/swat (with a caveat, that you should keep your back as upright as possible, you'll have to get low with your legs - vs. bend at the waist)
another related tip, "volley with your feet"
Not necessarily! Worst it can be detrimental when students don't understand and get frustrated by failing to see the logo.
Instead of "read the logo", it can be taught correctly by tips like focus your eyes on the ball, keep head still. Those things are possible. Start with them first.
No, good volleying is generally about moving your feet first.Keep the head still is the best general tip. I'd much rather keep my head still and move my arm to reach the ball then move my head/body to ball level. Think of volleying as a sword fight, and the racket is your sword.
No, good volleying is generally about moving your feet first.
Lol. It’s too easy to accidentally hit the post button when typing on a phone as I try to scroll.Awww you changed it.
J
No. I mean yes.Awww you changed it.
J
And I consider that tip not even work for half the people. Imo, a good tip should pass muster with majority (my own threadhold )sigh...
not all tips wor for everyone. share yours that work for you?
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Tip #4: keeping your racquet head at eye level.
For low volleys that are just a few inches above the court, what would be the best way to do this?
One arm handstand volley?
No, good volleying is generally about moving your feet first.
What your coach say though?
Keep the head still is the best general tip. I'd much rather keep my head still and move my arm to reach the ball then move my head/body to ball level. Think of volleying as a sword fight, and the racket is your sword.
i'm picturing your methodology of teaching beginner volleys, akin to:If you're teaching a beginner who is just standing there, then you should drill them on moving their feet. However, if you think you have to move your feet first, you're going to get hit with a lot of balls when playing higher level doubles.
Well, that's a good tip for beginners. As I progressed, I discovered that fastness is always an advantage in sports, and nothing is still when movement/fastness is involved.
So, when you're done with that tip, then comes the disciplined way of seeing the ball. Once you have that, you can sway, move 10 different ways and still be able to volley. At my level, I can fake-move to trip my opponents or poach xcourt. I'm not worried with net opponents who stand still or assume the leg spread position.
Here's a tip (for new net players I guess: Even when you're not poaching, volleying, ie staying put on your side, because you're new, practice seeing, focusing your eyes on the ball as it zips by the net. That's my said disciplined way above.
And I consider that tip not even work for half the people. Imo, a good tip should pass muster with majority (my own threadhold )
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This is too general. Good positioning is good for every shot, even the serve. There's nothing really special about the volley.
If anything, good volleyers have to learn how to control the racquet head when they don't have time to move to the ideal position.
If you're teaching a beginner who is just standing there, then you should drill them on moving their feet. However, if you think you have to move your feet first, you're going to get hit with a lot of balls when playing higher level doubles.
I knew we had a ttw rating police...
didn’t realize we had a tips police,...
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i'm picturing your methodology of teaching beginner volleys, akin to:
and i'd argue that teaching a beginner to move feet first, is the way to staying safe in high level dubs
Think of volleying as a sword fight, and the racket is your sword.
This tip to me means:
Get to the ball with your whole body instead of your arm and racket only, ie minmize any reaching/stretching/lunging as much as possible.
Lower your centre of gravity instead of standing tall so that you’re balanced and stable like a sports car.
Sports cars are quick.Well, if you're too balanced and stable, you lose your quickness.
No, good volleying is generally about moving your feet first.
I disagree, you have to move your feet to get to the ball sometimes but the heads are still and not moving to the level of the ball. What's moving most is their arms. This is what I call sword fighting.
I disagree, you have to move your feet to get to the ball sometimes but the heads are still and not moving to the level of the ball. What's moving most is their arms. This is what I call sword fighting.
Speaking of swords, have you ever fenced before? Being good at fencing is more about good footwork which means moving your feet.I disagree, you have to move your feet to get to the ball sometimes but the heads are still and not moving to the level of the ball. What's moving most is their arms. This is what I call sword fighting.