2019 Australian Open Men’s Singles Final (1) Novak Djokovic V (2) Rafael Nadal

TheGhostOfAgassi · Jan 27, 2019

alexio88 said:
my choice coincides)) and djoko also, and sampras of former champions

My uncle was a tennis player, and he was my godfather and a bit of an idol for me when I grew up. (No, it’s not Toni, lol) Now my cousin plays on the tour. I do like a lot of players. I like players for different reasons. I can probably list 50 playes I appreciate a lot.
I never watch old matche, no time or interest. I don’t care about Laver and Rosewall for example. Doesn’t interest me. I don’t sit and spend time on watching Agassi either even though I have that name in here.
I like Sampras too! I was never into the Sampras Agassi fan war thing. It’s a bit too old matches for me to know deep things about.

vive le beau jeu ! · Jan 27, 2019

TearTheRoofOff said:
@vive le beau jeu !, thoughts on the result?

i love the new serve of the peak nadal

Gazelle · Jan 27, 2019

vive le beau jeu ! said:
i love the new serve of the peak nadal

It saved him from receiving bakery products today

Rago · Jan 27, 2019

This surely has to be one of the most important points played over the past year. One has to wonder what alternative timeline we would be looking at had Nadal come out on top here?

Gazelle · Jan 27, 2019

Rago said:
This surely has to be one of the most important points played over the past year. One has to wonder what alternative timeline we would be looking at had Nadal come out on top here?

I remember Nadal was close to winning that match, but not that he was this close!

BobFL · Jan 27, 2019

abmk said:
You have to be absolutely pathetically clueless to believe Nadal didn't have a very weak draw to the final.

Djoko's was weak as well, though not as weak as Nadal's.

Well, compared to 2 of them, basically every draw is weak. Seriously. Nadal was simply a cut above every opponent. He dismantled Tsitsipas...

vive le beau jeu ! · Jan 27, 2019

TearTheRoofOff said:
@vive le beau jeu !, thoughts on the result?

the rusty peak injured golden bull was obviously sick, hindered, injured or tired © @stringertom (or possibly all 4) by the epic battles he had to face while dangerously browsing through his titanic platano-prinkled cheesecakewalk draw

doctors are currently trying to figure out what was wrong... press release expected in 2/3 days.

alexio · Jan 27, 2019

Rago said:
This surely has to be one of the most important points played over the past year. One has to wonder what alternative timeline we would be looking at had Nadal come out on top here?

why did he went to the net,djoko also could play down the line in the open court

alexio · Jan 27, 2019

TheGhostOfAgassi said:
My uncle was a tennis player, and he was my godfather and a bit of an idol for me when I grew up. (No, it’s not Toni, lol) Now my cousin plays on the tour. I do like a lot of players. I like players for different reasons. I can probably list 50 playes I appreciate a lot.
I never watch old matche, no time or interest. I don’t care about Laver and Rosewall for example. Doesn’t interest me. I don’t sit and spend time on watching Agassi either even though I have that name in here.
I like Sampras too! I was never into the Sampras Agassi fan war thing. It’s a bit too old matches for me to know deep things about.

thanks for such a sensitive and sincere post, really appreciate it

vive le beau jeu ! · Jan 27, 2019

TearTheRoofOff said:
@vive le beau jeu !, thoughts on the result?

... sangria para todos !

AndyM · Jan 27, 2019

Hitman I kept to the routine did not get up early got up around 7:15 eastern time in the states and just watch the total destruction on tape you are right this wasn't going to be another long classic you were totally right in fact Joco did even better than what you predicted

davced1 · Jan 27, 2019

I was surprised at first that the score was not closer but looking back Djokovic has been utterly dominant on hard courts last couple of years and 63 has actually been the most common set score, so maybe it was just business as usual? Actually last time Nadal won a set on hard court was the 2013 US Open final and since then including this final they have played 8 times on hard without Djokovic dropping a set and 17-0 in total set score including only one tie-breaker, wow!

mike danny · Jan 27, 2019

Sabrina said:
I've said many times that Nadal basically awoke a monster from Nole when he lost that match. Wimbledon 2018 semi-final changed the whole pattern of Nadal and Novak career from that point.

Makes you wonder what would have happened if Roger had won 2008 Wimb or 2009 AO.

It takes one tight loss to defeat these guys mentally and one tight win to overcome these mental blocks.

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mike danny said:
Makes you wonder what would have happened if Roger had won 2008 Wimb or 2009 AO.

It takes one tight loss to defeat these guys mentally and one tight win to overcome these mental blocks.

Also the 2017 AO Final. Federer totally erased the mental block against Rafa after that match and the rest of 2017 was just history.

However, even though Federer lost to Nadal in 2008 Wimb/2009 AO he still won 2008 Us Open and 2 slam in 2009 after that which is not bad at all. After the 2010 AO Federer existed his prime and Nadal didn't really cost him any slam after that (they didn't even face each other at GS in 2010) so IMO it's not a big deal.

Harry_Wild · Jan 27, 2019

Rafa said in his post Finals interview that Djokovic played faultless tennis with excellent improved movement keeping him pretty much on the defensive the entire match. So Rafa added a new serve, Djokovic has a new improved fast positioning footwork. Rafa say he is going to spend more time on improving his own movement.

flyingboris · Jan 27, 2019

I saw in the highlights that Djokovic invented a new move: the running thumbs up!

mike danny · Jan 27, 2019

Those who, in the future, want to trash Fed for his losses in slams to Djokodal in the last 10 years, remember that Nadal hasn't beaten Fedovic in slams in nearly 5 years at ages 29-32.

alexio · Jan 27, 2019

mike danny said:
Makes you wonder what would have happened if Roger had won 2008 Wimb or 2009 AO.

It takes one tight loss to defeat these guys mentally and one tight win to overcome these mental blocks.

@mike danny has shadows of federer in the head all the time no matter what thread is about

netlets · Jan 27, 2019

Nadal had the easiest draw of all the top players and that showed up in the final. He didn’t know where his level was. He played some good you g players after they were worn out. Djokovic played tougher players early and dropped a couple of sets. Fed’s form could have beaten Rafa - he blew his match after being in control. Medvedev would have given Rafa all he could handle on these courts. It’s funny how Rafa fans completely dismissed the fact Djokovic won 14 sets in a row on hardcourts. Now it’s 17. You need a bigger serve and an aggressive game to beat Djoker. Sitting on the baseline won’t do it.

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil · Jan 27, 2019

Where are you now...

pikku05 said:
How cocky and overconfident. And oh that SF PC was unbearable. He will get his a££ handed over to him by Rafa tomorrow. All are underestimating Rafa's form and how quickly he can return to form after injuries.

Atlantis...

pikku05 said:
Also didn't DJo lose his last two finals to Khachanov and Zverev? That too after displaying good form in the SF's, same pattern to follow tomorrow. Rafa to tear him a new one.

Under the sea...

pikku05 said:
Rafa is doing everything better than Novak in the AO , serve, return, aggressive baseline tactics. It will certainly pay off in the final. Rafa in 3 or 4 sets. It will be a beat down.

Under the sea...

pikku05 said:
Nadal's title to lose. Djo sounded way too overconfident in his post match PC. He has lost his last two finals played too where he played great in the semi's, so I wouldn't look too much into his SF beat down of Pouille. Rafa in 3 sets over the over confident Djo.

Where are you now...

pikku05 said:
Pushing can only take Djo until the finals, it will not work against Rafa. Also fitness wise I think Rafa is better, Djo was lucky the Wimbledon 2018 SF was spread over two days or else he would have toast. He can't keep up with Rafa's intensity for more than 3 hours.

Another dream...

pikku05 said:
Pretty sure Rafa will win..Scary form..

The monsters running wild inside of me...

Ledigs · Jan 27, 2019

icedevil0289 said:
Lmao well I'm sure to you as a fan but legit 1-11-2-3 does not look that great in terms of distribution imo.

What’s jokers?

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Cortana · Jan 27, 2019

7-1-4-3
1-11-2-3

alexio · Jan 27, 2019

mike danny said:
Those who, in the future, want to trash Fed for his losses in slams to Djokodal in the last 10 years, remember that Nadal hasn't beaten Fedovic in slams in nearly 5 years at ages 29-32.

they played only once last 5 years(AO2017) it hardly to say hasn't beaten..also at least rafa owns fed, djoko owns rafa.. and who fed owns? right..nobody out of this big 3, only cilic, chung, berdych..etc.

Zara · Jan 27, 2019

Both men's semi-finals and final delivered. The result was expected but the manner is surprising. Seems Rafa mentally choked there and never recovered. All that hype might have gotten to him in the end. Reminds me of Zed's match vs Raonic but at least he somewhat came back in the 3rd set.

This is unexpected from Nadal. No true fight there based on the result. Nole could have not been this good, no.

Omega_7000 · Jan 27, 2019

The_Order said:
LOL Nadal drew an on fire Novak in the final. the toughest possible AO opponent in history.

You shouldn't be whining about anyone's draws given Fed cleaned up before Nadal and Novak arrived on the scene.

This dumb weak era argument again.

So who from the younger generation has challenged Djokovic and Nadal? Dimitrov, Raonic and Nishikori?

You can also argue that an entire generation of useless players has also helped Djokovic and Nadal rack up slams.

MatsPhilander · Jan 27, 2019

Sweet lord this guy is unstoppable-just watched the Beeb highlights & Nadal would have beaten any other player in straight sets playing at the level he did today. No doubt now who the GOAT is, if not for Pepe & whatever else was happening he would likely be on 18 slams now, could well end the year level with Nadal on 17-Wimbledon is his for the taking, he has to be the heavy favourite to defend the US & he is the only guy who can beat Rafa at RG & at this level he can do it.

Omega_7000 · Jan 27, 2019

Rago said:
This surely has to be one of the most important points played over the past year. One has to wonder what alternative timeline we would be looking at had Nadal come out on top here?

Could say the same thing about the USO semi against Fed in 2010.

KK Partizan · Jan 27, 2019

Here is the point you guys are discussing (Wimbledon 2018, 7-7, AD Nadal) on the clip.

alexio · Jan 27, 2019

Omega_7000 said:
You can also argue that an entire generation of useless players has also helped Djokovic and Nadal rack up slams.

in nadal' prime there were djoko and fed, in djoko' prime there were nadal and fed, in fed' prime there weren't nadal and djoko)

AndyM · Jan 27, 2019

Hitman you were so right with your pre-match analysis

Nostradamus · Jan 27, 2019

This was Great 2 weeks coming off injury with almost NO match play. Novak totally stunk at the French open coming off injury and no match play. RAFA got to the final and destroy all the young guns. Who did better coming off injury layoff and NO match play ?????????????

rh310 · Jan 27, 2019

Harry_Wild said:
Rafa said in his post Finals interview that Djokovic played faultless tennis with excellent improved movement keeping him pretty much on the defensive the entire match. So Rafa added a new serve, Djokovic has a new improved fast positioning footwork. Rafa say he is going to spend more time on improving his own movement.

That's interesting. It occured to me a few times watching Djokovic's matches this tourney that his footwork looked more like Federer's current FW. Particularly at the baseline, positioning himself for the anticipated next shot. His use of wider split step combined with short-distance side steps to keep pre-committed momentum to a minimum seems new and different to how he moved before his surgery.

I remember hearing that Federer's footwork coach (Paganini? as I recall) was asked by Fed not to release a book or other instructional materials on his principles and training methods until after Federer retires. But that doesn't mean you can't gain a good understanding of it by reverse-engineering RF's footwork - particularly if you're already highly knowledgeable about tennis / athletic movement.

AndyM · Jan 27, 2019

It's time everyone gives Joco his props

alexio · Jan 27, 2019

Nostradamus said:
This was Great 2 weeks coming off injury with almost NO match play. Novak totally stunk at the French open coming off injury and no match play. RAFA got to the final and destroy all the young guns. Who did better coming off injury layoff and NO match play ?????????????

rafa did..he lost to brickwall named djokovic, djokovic lost to cappuchino

Nostradamus · Jan 27, 2019

alexio88 said:
rafa did..he lost to brickwall named djokovic, djokovic lost to cappuchino

Exactly, this proves that RAFA is much much better talent and player than Novak. Novak has NO chance at the French open 2019

TheGhostOfAgassi · Jan 27, 2019

OhYes said:
Oh don't mind naggers, it's even worse to complain on affection and love you are radiating than on player you don't like.
So don't ever feel bad about true love story. It's like a novel, and it is yours. We can just watch and admire.
I have so many things to do right now, I don't know where to go first Work will liberate me since I've been bit lazy these 2 weeks.
Take care, talk to you soon

I didn’t realise before today all the writings because I said about @125downthemiddle. How can they react on that?
Why do you think people get so provoked? People are talking about and showing body parts here all the time. I don’t get it and I was surprised of the reaction.

This final loss for Rafa is much easier to cope w than a 5 set loss. This loss easier to cope w than what happened in Wimbledon last year too.

I’m glad Novak got more AO than Federer. That also helps to think about.
Congrats!!

BeatlesFan · Jan 27, 2019

mike danny said:
Makes you wonder what would have happened if Roger had won 2008 Wimb or 2009 AO.

It takes one tight loss to defeat these guys mentally and one tight win to overcome these mental blocks.

Rome 2006 is the most important match that determined Rafa's mental ownership of Roger from 2006-2017.

BeatlesFan · Jan 27, 2019

Harry_Wild said:
Rafa say he is going to spend more time on improving his own movement.

The hands of time stop for no man, so Nadal is not improving his movement when he'll soon be 33. As Laver and Agassi have said repeatedly, movement is the first thing to go with a tennis player and one it erodes, nothing's getting it back.

brinkeguthrie · Jan 27, 2019

Just woke up and saw the score, my goodness. Has anyone ever given out worse beatings in the semi and final? Wow. Is not a good result for Rafa, no?

BeatlesFan · Jan 27, 2019

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
Where are you now...

Atlantis...

Under the sea...

Under the sea...

Where are you now...

Another dream...

The monsters running wild inside of me...

Everyone on this Forum makes wrong predictions all the time, it's inevitable. I never understand why those on the winning side have to make posts like this instead of celebrating like crazy today. They were wrong in their predictions and their guy lost, isn't that sufficient?

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil · Jan 27, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
Everyone on this Forum makes wrong predictions all the time, it's inevitable. I never understand why those on the winning side have to make posts like this instead of celebrating like crazy today. They were wrong in their predictions and their guy lost, isn't that sufficient?

It's one thing to make a wrong prediction, but it's completely different when you are so overconfident and cocky for no good reason.

He's also been predicting a loss for Djokovic ever since he started playing well at Wimbledon. I have ignored that until now. It's all fair.

Fed881981 · Jan 27, 2019

AndyM · Jan 27, 2019

Hitman how are you feeling today isn't this a glorious day!

icedevil0289 · Jan 27, 2019

Sabrina said:
Also the 2017 AO Final. Federer totally erased the mental block against Rafa after that match and the rest of 2017 was just history.

However, even though Federer lost to Nadal in 2008 Wimb/2009 AO he still won 2008 Us Open and 2 slam in 2009 after that which is not bad at all. After the 2010 AO Federer existed his prime and Nadal didn't really cost him any slam after that (they didn't even face each other at GS in 2010) so IMO it's not a big deal.

they all have a way of bouncing back and surprising people

veroniquem · Jan 27, 2019

Fed881981 said:
Fixed that for you

Well, not on clay obviously but tonight he really played the perfect match, an absolute clinic and there seemed to be a grand canyon of a gap between #1 and #2.
Djoko at his best is a thing of beauty, my all time favorite to watch, showing the world what perfect tennis should look like, the ideal balance between offense and defense, instinct and strategy, movement and timing, precision and flair. A treat for the ages. I find him so inspiring! Looking forward to more of those moments now that he's back on track.

icedevil0289 · Jan 27, 2019

alexio88 said:
in nadal' prime there were djoko and fed, in djoko' prime there were nadal and fed, in fed' prime there weren't nadal and djoko)

Interesting despite being 5-6 years old and not actually part of their generation he managed to stay competitive enough to be considered rivals. Also again I realize people will never acknowledge this but its not like fed beat all slamless champs prior to 2007. I

icedevil0289 · Jan 27, 2019

Omega_7000 said:
This dumb weak era argument again.

So who from the younger generation has challenged Djokovic and Nadal? Dimitrov, Raonic and Nishikori?

You can also argue that an entire generation of useless players has also helped Djokovic and Nadal rack up slams.

It's funny to me how I see posters ragging on fed and his weak era and then when fed fans try to counter you get "why are people do obsessed with weak/strong era"....gee I wonder

veroniquem · Jan 27, 2019

brinkeguthrie said:
Just woke up and saw the score, my goodness. Has anyone ever given out worse beatings in the semi and final? Wow. Is not a good result for Rafa, no?

No but I think in the big picture, he was not winning this match anyway. Better not to wear himself down into the ground as early as January and conserve physical freshness for the rest of the season. He will have better chances in other tournaments. Novak is just too out of reach at AO, especially in semi and final. It's his turf, same as Rafa at RG.

OhYes · Jan 27, 2019

TheGhostOfAgassi said:
I didn’t realise before today all the writings because I said about @125downthemiddle. How can they react on that?
Why do you think people get so provoked? People are talking about and showing body parts here all the time. I don’t get it and I was surprised of the reaction.

This final loss for Rafa is much easier to cope w than a 5 set loss. This loss easier to cope w than what happened in Wimbledon last year too.

I’m glad Novak got more AO than Federer. That also helps to think about.
Congrats!!

Well I just took a glimpse, don't know how distressful was it

and I don't know how many people are "insulted" with it, but as from now on you aren't "potential pickup", 125downthemiddle isn't just some guy, and you can sense jealousy as well as hipocrisy with those characters.

Like we are limited to just 1 "gurl", I say we can have plenty of them, and by all means more the merrier

All nice stuff.

Rafa's loss was perculiar bcs I really don't know what has happened to him. If you look at chat from the start (here or on other places) ppl were talking he has mental block, he is too nervous and similar. Now all of the sudden he is injured or just isn't good enough for Novak. I say this was just one episode of being on a quest, just like when Novak chased RG and couldn't be himself a lot of times. It will sort out, clay is around the corner and Rafa will play free again. Funny thing, I am happy, but not SO happy as if I was with other wins. Proper word would be - pleased.

watungga · Jan 27, 2019

Taking Djokovic's matchplay form today, what could be the result against Bautista-Agut ??

Djokovic somewhat played this same level at DOHA 2019.

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