Raonic vs Dimitrov

King No1e · May 3, 2019

After Nishikori and Del Potro, these two guys were expected to be the next big thing and usurp Fedalovic. Of course, that didn't happen, but they've both come close. While Raonic reached the Wimbledon final in 2016, defeating Federer in a memorable 5-set epic, and made numerous quarters and semis, Dimitrov won the World Championship on his only attempt in 2017 and has a M1000 to his name. Both finished one year at #3, Raonic in 2016 behind Murray and Djokovic, and Dimitrov in 2017 behind Nadal and Federer. Who has had the more accomplished career?

Red Rick · May 3, 2019

Dimitrov.

Deon Sanders · May 3, 2019

Dimitrov has two big titles

Milos has the uncontracted title name from the direct to video 2003 Disney film Atlantis: Milo's Return

BGod · May 3, 2019

Raonic. 0 Masters and no WTF but Dimitrov is done while Raonic can at least match Isner's 30+ swing.

King No1e · May 3, 2019

BGod said:
Raonic. 0 Masters and no WTF but Dimitrov is done while Raonic can at least match Isner's 30+ swing.

Hit the nail on the head. Raonic's game is built on efficiency while Dimitrov's is much more athletic. Efficiency doesn't diminish with age, but athleticism does.

mike danny · May 3, 2019

King No1e said:
After Nishikori and Del Potro, these two guys were expected to be the next big thing and usurp Fedalovic. Of course, that didn't happen, but they've both come close. While Raonic reached the Wimbledon final in 2016, defeating Federer in a memorable 5-set epic, and made numerous quarters and semis, Dimitrov won the World Championship on his only attempt in 2017 and has a M1000 to his name. Both finished one year at #3, Raonic in 2016 behind Murray and Djokovic, and Dimitrov in 2017 behind Nadal and Federer. Who has had the more accomplished career?

Del Potro is not Lost Gen. He is part of the Djokodal + Murray generation.

On topic, Dimitrov. Can't argue with 2 big titles.

Red Rick · May 3, 2019

King No1e said:
Hit the nail on the head. Raonic's game is built on efficiency while Dimitrov's is much more athletic. Efficiency doesn't diminish with age, but athleticism does.

"Has had"

Talks about future accomplishments

mike danny · May 3, 2019

BGod said:
Raonic. 0 Masters and no WTF but Dimitrov is done while Raonic can at least match Isner's 30+ swing.

Given how injury-prone Raonic is, can you really see him having a long career in his 30's?

tennisaddict · May 3, 2019

King No1e said:
After Nishikori and Del Potro, these two guys were expected to be the next big thing and usurp Fedalovic. Of course, that didn't happen, but they've both come close. While Raonic reached the Wimbledon final in 2016, defeating Federer in a memorable 5-set epic, and made numerous quarters and semis, Dimitrov won the World Championship on his only attempt in 2017 and has a M1000 to his name. Both finished one year at #3, Raonic in 2016 behind Murray and Djokovic, and Dimitrov in 2017 behind Nadal and Federer. Who has had the more accomplished career?

LMAO. These two don't deserve a thread, especially Raonic. And we are going to somehow give credit to him for beating a one legged, 35 year Fed in 5 sets ?

King No1e · May 3, 2019

tennisaddict said:
LMAO. These two don't deserve a thread, especially Raonic. And we are going to somehow give credit to him for beating a one legged, 35 year Fed in 5 sets ?

The knee didn't seem to bother Federer too much in that match itself, it was only after the tournament that we realized how serious it was. Federer was still playing as well as ever in that match. So yes, especially considering he had reached the last 2 finals.
Also if you want to play that game, Raonic was crushing Murray at AO16 before his injury flared up and he tailed off. It's not a stretch to say he would've beaten Murray and reached the final if he wasn't injured.

Red Rick · May 3, 2019

tennisaddict said:
LMAO. These two don't deserve a thread, especially Raonic. And we are going to somehow give credit to him for beating a one legged, 35 year Fed in 5 sets ?

Obviously they have accomplished nothing and they're not worth anyone's interest seeing as they won't be at least Tier 2 ATGs no?

Mainad · May 3, 2019

King No1e said:
The knee didn't seem to bother Federer too much in that match itself, it was only after the tournament that we realized how serious it was. Federer was still playing as well as ever in that match. So yes, especially considering he had reached the last 2 finals.
Also if you want to play that game, Raonic was crushing Murray at AO16 before his injury flared up and he tailed off. It's not a stretch to say he would've beaten Murray and reached the final if he wasn't injured.

Well, make up your mind about what game you want to play. You seem to be arguing for an uninjured Federer at 2016 Wimbledon to make Raonic look good vs an injured Raonic at 2016 AO to make Murray look bad. Are you sure you're being entirely objective?

papertank · May 3, 2019

Raonic is the better player but Dimitrov has had the better career simply because he peaked at a much better time.

King No1e · May 3, 2019

Mainad said:
Well, make up your mind about what game you want to play. You seem to be arguing for an uninjured Federer at 2016 Wimbledon to make Raonic look good vs an injured Raonic at 2016 AO to make Murray look bad. Are you sure you're being entirely objective?

My point is that the knee problem became serious after the tournament, not during the match. If I were using his injury at AO16 as an excuse, I would've declared him 2-time finalist because he "would've won". I didn't because hypotheticals aren't objective.

Third Serve · May 3, 2019

Dimitrov

Subway Tennis · May 3, 2019

To this point, Dimitrov has had the better career, but Raonic is the better player and will end with the better career imo.

Luka888 · May 3, 2019

well, well. Career wise DimiThePrettyBoy is better but Clark Kent is OK too. I would not compare them really. They will probably never win majors. It's always difficult to explain talent though. Clark Kent is working harder but DimiThePretty IMO is a more 'watchable' player when he is on.

stephenclown · May 3, 2019

King No1e said:
Hit the nail on the head. Raonic's game is built on efficiency while Dimitrov's is much more athletic. Efficiency doesn't diminish with age, but athleticism does.

Efficiency pushes you to the limit still. You just get more out of your potential, dimitrov can grow to become more efficient but raonic will struggle to improve his athleticism... hence raonic never doing much.

Mainad · May 3, 2019

King No1e said:
My point is that the knee problem became serious after the tournament, not during the match. If I were using his injury at AO16 as an excuse, I would've declared him 2-time finalist because he "would've won". I didn't because hypotheticals aren't objective.

Well, Federer did collapse during his 2016 Wimbledon match with Raonic which, objectively speaking, would be more indicative of injury (given that Fed did not play again after that for the rest of the season) than anything which occurred between Raonic and Murray at the 2016 AO (given that Raonic went on to have his best season to date losing to Murray on 4 more occasions that year).

mike danny · May 4, 2019

Mainad said:
Well, Federer did collapse during his 2016 Wimbledon match with Raonic which, objectively speaking, would be more indicative of injury (given that Fed did not play again after that for the rest of the season) than anything which occurred between Raonic and Murray at the 2016 AO (given that Raonic went on to have his best season to date losing to Murray on 4 more occasions that year).

I count 5:

MC, Queens, Wimb, Cincy, WTF.

airchallenge2 · May 4, 2019

I bet Grigor would love to have reached a Wimbledon final. That's the best record, behind actually winning a GS title.

mike danny · May 4, 2019

airchallenge2 said:
I bet Grigor would love to have reached a Wimbledon final. That's the best record, behind actually winning a GS title.

Well, he didn't get the luxury of facing an old and injured opponent in his lone Wimb semi.

mike danny · May 4, 2019

King No1e said:
The knee didn't seem to bother Federer too much in that match itself, it was only after the tournament that we realized how serious it was. Federer was still playing as well as ever in that match. So yes, especially considering he had reached the last 2 finals.
Also if you want to play that game, Raonic was crushing Murray at AO16 before his injury flared up and he tailed off. It's not a stretch to say he would've beaten Murray and reached the final if he wasn't injured.

You serious?

King No1e · May 4, 2019

airchallenge2 said:
I bet Grigor would love to have reached a Wimbledon final. That's the best record, behind actually winning a GS title.

All Grand Slams are created equal. So beating Nadal in the AO semi is just as good as beating Novak in the Wimbledon semi.

King No1e · May 4, 2019

mike danny said:
You serious?

Ok maybe I worded it wrong. I don't mean Federer was playing at peak level or anything, he was definitely not playing his best. But he wasn't limping on one leg and barely moving a la AO14 final, as OP made it sound.

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