Angell TC95 16x19 flexy shakedown

andredcastro · Apr 14, 2019

Hey Guys,
I'm trying to find a SW reference to these racquets, but can't seem to find any specific chart, neither on the Angell website.
So my probable racquet would be
TC95 V3
16*19
63 RA
330gramms
305 balance (12pts headlight)
L3
Leather grip

Can anyone tell me the SW?

Furthermore, would you say that this would be more or less Powerfull than the RF97?

I'me trying to upgrade from a PS 90 (2014), to something just a bit more powerfull, but the RF97 didn't work too much power (for someone who likes to swing big and go for e ery shot) and completly killed the feel of the pro staff line, ended up selling the RF.
Looking at thee Angell or Maybe the Prince 93p

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Subaruvich · Apr 14, 2019

andredcastro said:
Hey Guys,
I'm trying to find a SW reference to these racquets, but can't seem to find any specific chart, neither on the Angell website.
So my probable racquet would be
TC95 V3
16*19
63 RA
330gramms
305 balance (12pts headlight)
L3
Leather grip

Can anyone tell me the SW?

Furthermore, would you say that this would be more or less Powerfull than the RF97?

I'me trying to upgrade from a PS 90 (2014), to something just a bit more powerfull, but the RF97 didn't work too much power (for someone who likes to swing big and go for e ery shot) and completly killed the feel of the pro staff line, ended up selling the RF.
Looking at thee Angell or Maybe the Prince 93p

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I’ve had three V3 TC95 16x19 RA63 and they were unstrung SW290 - SW292.

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andredcastro · Apr 14, 2019

Subaruvich said:
I’ve had three V3 TC95 16x19 RA63 and they were unstrung SW290 - SW292.

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Wow. That is really low.
I was expecting something like 325-335 SW.
How stable are the frames?
Did you need to add Weight to make it stable?

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ollinger · Apr 14, 2019

Subaruvich said:
I’ve had three V3 TC95 16x19 RA63 and they were unstrung SW290 - SW292

andredcastro said:
Wow. That is really low.
I was expecting something like 325-335 SW.

not so low, as this is UNSTRUNG

andredcastro · Apr 14, 2019

ollinger said:
not so low, as this is UNSTRUNG

Do you have any idea on aproximated values when strung?

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Subaruvich · Apr 14, 2019

andredcastro said:
Do you have any idea on aproximated values when strung?

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SW320 - 322 strung. I did add some weight at 3&9 to increase SW and stability.

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Subaruvich · Apr 14, 2019

andredcastro said:
Wow. That is really low.
I was expecting something like 325-335 SW.
How stable are the frames?
Did you need to add Weight to make it stable?

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If you want higher SW right out of the box, you might want to look at version 2 or 1. Those had heftier SW than version 3.

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andredcastro · Apr 14, 2019

Subaruvich said:
SW320 - 322 strung. I did add some weight at 3&9 to increase SW and stability.

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How much?
I'me guessing at least 5gramms each SIDE?

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Subaruvich · Apr 14, 2019

andredcastro said:
How much?
I'me guessing at least 5gramms each SIDE?

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I added around 4 grams in total. Played great until I smashed it.
Adding 10 grams at 3&9 would add ~19 SW points. It would also shift the balance ~6mm.
Or you can get the same result with 5.5g at 12.

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gazz1 · Apr 14, 2019

Backhanded Compliment said:
So why does the TC95 have so many strong characteristics? The skeptic in me thinks physics are physics and racquet design hasnt changed much in decades. My only explanation is the Angell is simply not as cheaply made... and better/more materials could account for the solid, somewhat unflashy personality of the stick?

Much the same as a great wine needs great grapes as well as a great wine maker

andredcastro · Apr 14, 2019

Subaruvich said:
I added around 4 grams in total. Played great until I smashed it.
Adding 10 grams at 3&9 would add ~19 SW points. It would also shift the balance ~6mm.
Or you can get the same result with 5.5g at 12.

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Thanks

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kailash · Apr 17, 2019

How does TC95 (63RA, 310 or 320) compare to Yonex VCore Pro 97 310 g version?

redmini · Apr 18, 2019

kailash said:
How does TC95 (63RA, 310 or 320) compare to Yonex VCore Pro 97 310 g version?

I’d be interested in that too. Also in direct comparison to Yonex VCore 98 and Ezone 98 and K7 red. ( Beginning to think of switching from my Yonex Dual G 100, in search of more serve power and a bit more flexibility).

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Prince Vegeta · May 10, 2019

Can anyone chime in as to how a tc95 63 RA would play in a lighter static configuration such as 310/315? And if you can, a TC97 as well? I only have experience with with the 330 gram versions.

topspn · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
Can anyone chime in as to how a tc95 63 RA would play in a lighter static configuration such as 310/315? And if you can, a TC97 as well? I only have experience with with the 330 gram versions.

They play pretty good actually at 310g/9HL with predictably less weight on the ball but you still don’t get pushed back. I still felt serves were pretty big so didn’t seem a big change there. My most current TC95s are all V3 with stock spec 320g/10HL and I add a bit of weight to 2&10. Works great for me!

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

topspn said:
They play pretty good actually at 310g/9HL with predictably less weight on the ball but you still don’t get pushed back. I still felt serves were pretty big so didn’t seem a big change there. My most current TC95s are all V3 with stock spec 320g/10HL and I add a bit of weight to 2&10. Works great for me!

Thank you topspin. Your comment is very appreciated. I know heavier frames hit a heavier ball, I just wasn’t sure if the angells would lose their magic at a lower static weight. I’m basically trying to come up with an 18x20 alternative to a Wilson blade or Bab. Pure strike.

topspn · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
Thank you topspin. Your comment is very appreciated. I know heavier frames hit a heavier ball, I just wasn’t sure if the angells would lose their magic at a lower static weight. I’m basically trying to come up with an 18x20 alternative to a Wilson blade or Bab. Pure strike.

No, they certainly do not loose their magic, just physics no matter what still applies. And regardless of 16x19 or 18x20 the frame is pretty special, just players have preferences based on their playing style.

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

topspn said:
No, they certainly do not loose their magic, just physics no matter what still applies. And regardless of 16x19 or 18x20 the frame is pretty special, just players have preferences based on their playing style.

May I ask you which frame you would recommend to mimic the blade or pure strike? I have a fairly Thiem like game in the since that I take huge cuts at the ball with a western forehand and hit with a big serve. I hover around the baseline all day. I was thinking the TC97 whereas the 95 seems more niche, and the k7 is a different beast all together.

topspn · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
May I ask you which frame you would recommend to mimic the blade or pure strike? I have a fairly Thiem like game in the since that I take huge cuts at the ball with a western forehand and hit with a big serve. I hover around the baseline all day. I was thinking the TC97 whereas the 95 seems more niche, and the k7 is a different beast all together.

Well, if you were playing the 18x20 versions of PS and Blade then certainly the TC95 or TC9718x20. The string bed is fairly tight so I’d personally pick a comfy good poly like Black Night 1.23 strung 45-48lbs. The difference will come down to a couple of things! TC95 will be a tiny bit more demanding but will have more authority hitting and a bit bigger serve with a pretty uniform flex. The TC97 a bit more forgiving and has more in the head. So to me if are used to the feel of the Blade and PS, then TC95 is closest with how it flexs but slightly more demanding

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

topspn said:
Well, if you were playing the 18x20 versions of PS and Blade then certainly the TC95 or TC9718x20. The string bed is fairly tight so I’d personally pick a comfy good poly like Black Night 1.23 strung 45-48lbs. The difference will come down to a couple of things! TC95 will be a tiny bit more demanding but will have more authority hitting and a bit bigger serve with a pretty uniform flex. The TC97 a bit more forgiving and has more in the head. So to me if are used to the feel of the Blade and PS, then TC95 is closest with how it flexs but slightly more demanding

Thanks! I appreciate it Topspin!

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

topspn said:
Well, if you were playing the 18x20 versions of PS and Blade then certainly the TC95 or TC9718x20. The string bed is fairly tight so I’d personally pick a comfy good poly like Black Night 1.23 strung 45-48lbs. The difference will come down to a couple of things! TC95 will be a tiny bit more demanding but will have more authority hitting and a bit bigger serve with a pretty uniform flex. The TC97 a bit more forgiving and has more in the head. So to me if are used to the feel of the Blade and PS, then TC95 is closest with how it flexs but slightly more demanding

I’m going to assume the 70 RA would be the most stable for the weight, but the 63 is intoxicating.

topspn · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
I’m going to assume the 70 RA would be the most stable for the weight, but the 63 is intoxicating.

In the V3, I think they are both stable but the 63 is the touch and volley stick

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

topspn said:
In the V3, I think they are both stable but the 63 is the touch and volley stick

It’s probably the most comfortable in a dense pattern as well. I may look into a 70 RA 18x20 however because I do play mostly from the baseline.

topspn · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
It’s probably the most comfortable in a dense pattern as well.

I have tried the 63RA in 18x20 and 16x19 (my sticks are 16x19) but the 70RA only in 16x19. The 70RA has zero discomfort probably due to the foam filling. It will be more of touch feel pocketing then discomfort imo.

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

topspn said:
I have tried the 63RA in 18x20 and 16x19 (my sticks are 16x19) but the 70RA only in 16x19. The 70RA has zero discomfort probably due to the foam filling. It will be more of touch feel pocketing then discomfort imo.

Ok, cool. The 70 May suit my baseline game more but I love 18x20 patterns. Hopefully it won’t be jarring.

topspn · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
Ok, cool. The 70 May suit my baseline game more but I love 18x20 patterns. Hopefully it won’t be jarring.

That shouldn’t be an issue as long as you string with a bit thinner gauge since its 18x20 and keep tension reasonably low

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

topspn said:
That shouldn’t be an issue as long as you string with a bit thinner gauge since its 18x20 and keep tension reasonably low

I will probably string with a full bed of rslyon or cyclone 17 in the 40-45lb range.

Deleted member 54265 · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
Thank you topspin. Your comment is very appreciated. I know heavier frames hit a heavier ball, I just wasn’t sure if the angells would lose their magic at a lower static weight. I’m basically trying to come up with an 18x20 alternative to a Wilson blade or Bab. Pure strike.

I play the TC95 16x19 310/315 V3 63RA, and I can confirm that the TC95 hits a heavy ball and is rock solid. The TC95 for sure have some magic in this setup, I just ordered a 18x20 version of the TC95 with the same spec, love the racquet but just want to see what string pattern I prefer before ordering some more. I can highly reccomend the TC95.

Cheers, Toby

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

Toby14 said:
I play the TC95 16x19 310/315 V3 63RA, and I can confirm that the TC95 hits a heavy ball and is rock solid. The TC95 for sure have some magic in this setup, I just ordered a 18x20 version of the TC95 with the same spec, love the racquet but just want to see what string pattern I prefer before ordering some more. I can highly reccomend the TC95.

Cheers, Toby

I used to have a 63 RA 27.5 inch 18x20. The racquet was solid as a rock but I think I should have stuck with the standard length. Tried the 16x19 63ra and found it was a totally different frame from the 18x20. The closed pattern is definitely much more precise. Not to say the 16x19 isn’t, but they’re noticeably different. Topspin has convinced me that the 70ra is probably better for my baseline game.

galapagos · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
I used to have a 63 RA 27.5 inch 18x20. The racquet was solid as a rock but I think I should have stuck with the standard length. Tried the 16x19 63ra and found it was a totally different frame from the 18x20. The closed pattern is definitely much more precise. Not to say the 16x19 isn’t, but they’re noticeably different. Topspin has convinced me that the 70ra is probably better for my baseline game.

I have exp with tc95 18x20, 16x19, tc97 18x20, k7 red and lime. Still want to try tc97 16x19

IMO baselineners will prefer tc97coz its a bit more forgiving

Many players here have different opinion on that but for me tc97 has bigger power and a bit more linear response. Easier to import topspin. TC95 however has best feel and very satisfying on volleys

a bit more aerodnynamic

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

galapagos said:
I have exp with tc95 18x20, 16x19, tc97 18x20, k7 red and lime. Still want to try tc97 16x19 IMO baselineners will prefer tc97coz its a bit more forgiving Many players here have different opinion on that but for me tc97 has bigger power and a bit more linear response. Easier to import topspin. TC95 however has best feel and very satisfying on volleys a bit more aerodnynamic

Interesting. I have no experience whatsoever with the tc97. The head sizes between the 95 and 97 should be negligible since they share the same grommets. I personally prefer a slightly more constant feel. I’ve herd the tc97 flexes more in the head. I liked the 2013/2014 pure control tour, but I thought it felt dead in the upper hoop. This was the only con I had in the racquet. I have a big serve but my miss on serve is in that dead spot. I will go with an 18x20 pattern tc95/97. Topspin seemed to think I’d like the 95 more.

topspn · May 11, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
Interesting. I have no experience whatsoever with the tc97. The head sizes between the 95 and 97 should be negligible since they share the same grommets. I personally prefer a slightly more constant feel. I’ve herd the tc97 flexes more in the head. I liked the 2013/2014 pure control tour, but I thought it felt dead in the upper hoop. This was the only con I had in the racquet. I have a big serve but my miss on serve is in that dead spot. I will go with an 18x20 pattern tc95/97. Topspin seemed to think I’d like the 95 more.

I steered you there due to you mentioning you played the Blade and PS. Neither one has a flex in the head so really that was my reasoning and its not that TC97 isn’t good. For me, I didn’t care for that head flex but others seem to love the frame. So really comes down if you can adapt to its flex or not. Truly hard to tell unless you try and see for yourself. Best bet is still on TC95 imo based on your history

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

topspn said:
I steered you there due to you mentioning you played the Blade and PS. Neither one has a flex in the head so really that was my reasoning and its not that TC97 isn’t good. For me, I didn’t care for that head flex but others seem to love the frame. So really comes down if you can adapt to its flex or not. Truly hard to tell unless you try and see for yourself. Best bet is still on TC95 imo based on your history

For sure, tc95 is what I’m leaving towards. I didn’t mean to say what you told me was wrong, if it came off that way. I was basically reiterating the earlier conversation.

jmacdaununder2 · May 11, 2019

galapagos said:
I have exp with tc95 18x20, 16x19, tc97 18x20, k7 red and lime. Still want to try tc97 16x19 IMO baselineners will prefer tc97coz its a bit more forgiving Many players here have different opinion on that but for me tc97 has bigger power and a bit more linear response. Easier to import topspin. TC95 however has best feel and very satisfying on volleys a bit more aerodnynamic

Would be really interested in opinions on which one - TC95 0r TC97 - transmits power better on serve; the comments about TC97 hoop flex have always made me wonder if this characteristic would reduce service power somewhat.

Prince Vegeta · May 11, 2019

jmacdaununder2 said:
Would be really interested in opinions on which one - TC95 0r TC97 - transmits power better on serve; the comments about TC97 hoop flex have always made me wonder if this characteristic would reduce service power somewhat.

I haven’t hit with the tc97, but I imagine it’s probably similar to the hoop flex of the pure control/storm line from babalot. I had several pure control tours a few years back and ultimately departed from them because of the hoop flex. If I hit it in that upper part of the hoop on my serve it seemed far less potent. I’ve hit with the tc95 in both string patterns, however just the 63ra version, and it was a serving beast with good mechanics.

topspn · May 12, 2019

jmacdaununder2 said:
Would be really interested in opinions on which one - TC95 0r TC97 - transmits power better on serve; the comments about TC97 hoop flex have always made me wonder if this characteristic would reduce service power somewhat.

TC95

galapagos · May 12, 2019

jmacdaununder2 said:
Would be really interested in opinions on which one - TC95 0r TC97 - transmits power better on serve; the comments about TC97 hoop flex have always made me wonder if this characteristic would reduce service power somewhat.

I think tc95 as well

Prince Vegeta said:
Interesting. I have no experience whatsoever with the tc97. The head sizes between the 95 and 97 should be negligible since they share the same grommets. I personally prefer a slightly more constant feel. I’ve herd the tc97 flexes more in the head. I liked the 2013/2014 pure control tour, but I thought it felt dead in the upper hoop. This was the only con I had in the racquet. I have a big serve but my miss on serve is in that dead spot. I will go with an 18x20 pattern tc95/97. Topspin seemed to think I’d like the 95 more.

Headsize might be the same but the overall performance might be less/more forgiving.TC97 is a bit more stable for example. I haven't played with tc95 70 ra but IMO tc95 is all about the feel therefore I see not much sense of 70 ra when you can have 63ra

Very unique design. I was a long term blade fan (still love the line). All Angell's 18x20 have something in common with blade (more than with prestige IMO - maybe besides lime) but angells are angells and are unique in their own way. TC95 63 ra is soft yet very very solid. Kinda encourage you to hit harder, nice aerodynamic frame with great feel and control. TC97 kicks the ball more (kinda trampoline effect, subtle yet noticeable) , its a bit more bulky but easier to import spin in my opinion if you keep the maneuverability the same...I preferred tc95 probably because of the feel and the one I had was faster than my tc97. Otherwise it would have been splitting hair because I can see tc97 more useful in some areas

Slices are very good with tc97 !

Anyway I think if someone is just starting their adventure with angell he should start from tc95 63 ra

its more unique.

always worth having both right ? xDD Good luck with your adventure !

Prince Vegeta · May 12, 2019

galapagos said:
I think tc95 as well

Headsize might be the same but the overall performance might be less/more forgiving.TC97 is a bit more stable for example. I haven't played with tc95 70 ra but IMO tc95 is all about the feel therefore I see not much sense of 70 ra when you can have 63ra Very unique design. I was a long term blade fan (still love the line). All Angell's 18x20 have something in common with blade (more than with prestige IMO - maybe besides lime) but angells are angells and are unique in their own way. TC95 63 ra is soft yet very very solid. Kinda encourage you to hit harder, nice aerodynamic frame with great feel and control. TC97 kicks the ball more (kinda trampoline effect, subtle yet noticeable) , its a bit more bulky but easier to import spin in my opinion if you keep the maneuverability the same...I preferred tc95 probably because of the feel and the one I had was faster than my tc97. Otherwise it would have been splitting hair because I can see tc97 more useful in some areas Slices are very good with tc97 !

Anyway I think if someone is just starting their adventure with angell he should start from tc95 63 ra its more unique.

always worth having both right ? xDD Good luck with your adventure !

Thank you for the feedback. I’ve had several tc95s in both string patterns, 63 RA each. I really enjoyed the 18x20 but the one I had was .5 extended and it three my timing off. Tc95 sure is powerful though. It’s addictive. It just cuts through the air so effortlessly. 70 RA tc95 18x20 seems like it may suit my game because I tend to play from the back court and hit hard.

On the other side, an 18x20 tc97 I’ve heard would be slightly more forgiving, just as spiny, a tad of any less powerful, and a different feel from the flex distribution. Since you noted the slices are amazing with the 97 I’m intrigued. Sometimes the backhand slice is all I have going for me. I’ve also seen on here that the 97 plays crisper than the 95. I wonder if it plays crisper than the 70 RA? Also, the whole reason I left my PCTs behind was because of the dead spot in the upper hoop. If the tc97 is anything like that then count me out.

jmacdaununder2 · May 12, 2019

Thanks for all the feedback guys!!

Pneumated1 · May 13, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
... I’ve also seen on here that the 97 plays crisper than the 95. I wonder if it plays crisper than the 70 RA? Also, the whole reason I left my PCTs behind was because of the dead spot in the upper hoop. If the tc97 is anything like that then count me out.

I used to hit the 2014 PCT. Loved that frame and wish I had never gotten rid of mine. For what it's worth, I currently hit the Angell TC95 18x20 and find it a better fit for me than the 16x19. Controlling the launch angle of that pattern was something that took me a year to get comfortable with. The 18x20 was just naturally a better fit, especially on my backhand slice, which I utilize a lot.

I tried the TC97 18x20 but didn't like the throat stiffness. It may have the more flexy head, but I perceived the frame as crisp/stiff, unlike the TC95 (either pattern). Back to the PCT, by comparison. I don't think it compares to the TC97 much at all, imo. I always felt the PCT had more of a uniform flex, but that was just my perception. The 'dead spot' you speak of was probably just a result of the frame being depolarized (more than the PST that preceded it) and low on swingweight, not a consequence of a flexy head. That said, the sweetspot on either TC95 is a little higher on the stringbed so would eliminate any 'dead spot' issues on your serve.

Seems the TC95 18x20 would suit you best, but I can confirm they're both (TC95s) stellar. While the 18x20 is a better fit for me, the 16x19 hits a meaner ball, but my game is built more on precision not brawn. I hope this helps; good luck.

(Sorry, just realized a few posts up that you have extensive experience with both TC95 in both string patterns, so only my comments about TC97 would be relevant for you.)

Bobby O · May 13, 2019

Great posts, all - thanks. I am looking to purchase my first Angell and am torn between the TC95 16x19 and 18x20. It's not too often that I see posts from people who have actually used both versions and can directly compare them, so your descriptions were very helpful. I am curious if any of you felt that you had to hold back your shots to prevent the ball from sailing long or that spin was required to keep the ball in play with the open pattern. I currently play with a Head Graphene Radical Pro, which is a tight 16x19, and previously used a Head Prestige Classic Mid, so I could really go either way. I am intrigued by the brawn of the 16x19, but I also like the accuracy of the 18x20 and don't want to feel like I can't hit full out. I know that the open pattern will be less accurate, but by how much? Thanks!

Pneumated1 · May 13, 2019

Bobby O said:
Great posts, all - thanks. I am looking to purchase my first Angell and am torn between the TC95 16x19 and 18x20. It's not too often that I see posts from people who have actually used both versions and can directly compare them, so your descriptions were very helpful. I am curious if any of you felt that you had to hold back your shots to prevent the ball from sailing long or that spin was required to keep the ball in play with the open pattern. I currently play with a Head Graphene Radical Pro, which is a tight 16x19, and previously used a Head Prestige Classic Mid, so I could really go either way. I am intrigued by the brawn of the 16x19, but I also like the accuracy of the 18x20 and don't want to feel like I can't hit full out. I know that the open pattern will be less accurate, but by how much? Thanks!

Depth control is not a problem with either, imo. In fact, I naturally hit the ball deeper with the 18x20. My biggest issue with the 16x19 was controlling the trajectory of midrange cross court shots. I just don't brush the ball enough or want to think about brushing it enough to trust that shot (off either wing). Others here may hit that shot naturally with the 16x19, but the 18x20 gave me that back ... and with pinpoint precision, as well as my bh slice, which is a weapon for me. I personally think the TC95 16x19 is an incredible player's frame (albeit with a pure aero stringbed). If Paul would give us a TC95 16x20, many of us who like a tight 16 mains (myself included) would jump all over it.

Give me a 16x19, and I could make it work and be happy, but the 18x20 is just more instinctive and confidence inspiring.

Prince Vegeta · May 13, 2019

Pneumated1 said:
I used to hit the 2014 PCT. Loved that frame and wish I had never gotten rid of mine. For what it's worth, I currently hit the Angell TC95 18x20 and find it a better fit for me than the 16x19. Controlling the launch angle of that pattern was something that took me a year to get comfortable with. The 18x20 was just naturally a better fit, especially on my backhand slice, which I utilize a lot.

I tried the TC97 18x20 but didn't like the throat stiffness. It may have the more flexy head, but I perceived the frame as crisp/stiff, unlike the TC95 (either pattern). Back to the PCT, by comparison. I don't think it compares to the TC97 much at all, imo. I always felt the PCT had more of a uniform flex, but that was just my perception. The 'dead spot' you speak of was probably just a result of the frame being depolarized (more than the PST that preceded it) and low on swingweight, not a consequence of a flexy head. That said, the sweetspot on either TC95 is a little higher on the stringbed so would eliminate any 'dead spot' issues on your serve.

Seems the TC95 18x20 would suit you best, but I can confirm they're both (TC95s) stellar. While the 18x20 is a better fit for me, the 16x19 hits a meaner ball, but my game is built more on precision not brawn. I hope this helps; good luck.

(Sorry, just realized a few posts up that you have extensive experience with both TC95 in both string patterns, so only my comments about TC97 would be relevant for you.)

It’s interesting that you say that my PCTs must have had a low swingweight. They were actually around 13/13.2 ounces strung with a 355-360 ish swingweight and all four of mine had a 32 cm balance at that spec before overgrip. That spot was still there when I missed the sweet spot a little high in the frame. It definitely was not a uniform flex feeling racquet though. Tc95 is a beast, but I’m interested in your comment about how you though the tc97 felt stiff. Did the stiff throat and flex head ever feel disconnected? How would you compare it’s head size/forgiveness to the tc95? Does the tc97 18x20 feel more modern given the stiff throat?

Pneumated1 · May 13, 2019

Prince Vegeta said:
It’s interesting that you say that my PCTs must have had a low swingweight. They were actually around 13/13.2 ounces strung with a 355-360 ish swingweight and all four of mine had a 32 cm balance at that spec before overgrip. That spot was still there when I missed the sweet spot a little high in the frame. It definitely was not a uniform flex feeling racquet though. Tc95 is a beast, but I’m interested in your comment about how you though the tc97 felt stiff. Did the stiff throat and flex head ever feel disconnected? How would you compare it’s head size/forgiveness to the tc95? Does the tc97 18x20 feel more modern given the stiff throat?

I was going to mention that mine were a 1/4 oz. over specs, but considering your monstrous mods and beefy static and swingweight, that's a moot point. If you still felt a dead spot after all that, then there's a dead spot. I didn't have that issue (even stock) but also like to hit a little lower on the stringbed. Compared to the C10 Pro, the PCT was definitely a more uniform flex but maybe still more head than throat flexy. I'm not sure. I just know I really liked the frame and did not like the TC97 at all, and the latter is known to have a stiffer throat. The PCT gave me nowhere near the same impression as the TC97, so I conclude that the throat in the PCT has more flex. 'Stiff' is probably the wrong word to describe the TC97. It was buttery yet firm at the same time. I guess that could be interpreted as disconnection. Head size/forgiveness is a wash, imo. If anything, the TC95 seems more forgiving to me because I find it more torsionally stable. But again, others would argue that point

I'd go with the TC95.

Bobby O · May 13, 2019

Pneumated1, it sounds from your description that the 16x19 does, in fact, require a little TLC to keep from overhitting. Since my strokes are not super spinny, I may have the same issues that you did with it. I, too, would love to see a 16x20 (or even an 18x19 for that matter) in the TC95, as it could be the best of both worlds. But for now, I think that the 18x20 is where I am leaning. Thanks for your input.

Pneumated1 · May 13, 2019

Bobby O said:
Pneumated1, it sounds from your description that the 16x19 does, in fact, require a little TLC to keep from overhitting.

I'd really like to not steer you either way. The 16x19 is a beautiful beast after you put some quality time in with it. Honestly, if you can make it work for you, it's the greater weapon, imo. You can literally hit at people and give them loads of trouble. I might even put one back in my bag at some point....

Deleted member 54265 · May 13, 2019

PLC PTC TLC you are talking in codes here, could someone help and translate. THX

topspn · May 13, 2019

Pneumated1 said:
I'd really like to not steer you either way. The 16x19 is a beautiful beast after you put some quality time in with it. Honestly, if you can make it work for you, it's the greater weapon, imo. You can literally hit at people and give them loads of trouble. I might even put one back in my bag at some point....

You’re not getting one of mine

ChrisG · May 13, 2019

Pneumated1 said:
I'd really like to not steer you either way. The 16x19 is a beautiful beast after you put some quality time in with it. Honestly, if you can make it work for you, it's the greater weapon, imo. You can literally hit at people and give them loads of trouble. I might even put one back in my bag at some point....

couldn't agree more after my last match yesterday : I hadn't hit with this friend since last spring, when I took back my way to the tennis court after a 15y hiatus. At that time I was rusty and with a lack of confidence on all my shot. to get things harder I was playing with a Pure Aero so everything was flying to the moon haha.

After almost a full year of training, trying racquets AND finding the right weapon (TC95 16x19 63RA), my friend couldn't believe how hard I was hitting. Serves, were really impressive to him. TC95 gives you this special "all in" feeling that allows you to connect with your skills. Pure Aero, TT100P, Tfight xtc, had all different kind of distractions that kept me for months away from my game.

I'm still tempted to try TC97 or tc100 to get things easier on clay rallies, but TC95 feels so natural, like an extension of your arm. All the others racquets had me thinking about them, not the tc95 (well apart from some mishits that make me wish for a second to have a 100sq haha).

Pneumated1 · May 13, 2019

topspn said:
You’re not getting one of mine

How true! I never buy just one racquet, always in pairs. Thanks for reaching out; I'll be in touch ...

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