2019 Italian Open - WTA Thread

Who gains the title?

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Aussie Darcy

Aussie Darcy

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Konta who has never won a main draw match at the French Open and is known for being pretty average on clay is a game away from the Rome final... Ok then.
 
Aussie Darcy

Aussie Darcy

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In saying that, despite her poor showing at the French and also Madrid during her career, Konta hasn't been terrible in Rome.

Made the 3R each time she's played (2016 she beat then top 10 Vinci, 2017 she had a bye and beat Poots and took a set off Venus, 2018 she beat Rybarikova and Hsieh and took a set off Ostapenko)
 
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Aussie Darcy

Aussie Darcy

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Jo Konta does it.

Knocks out Madrid champ and #3 Bertens to make the Rome final.

Her first Premier 5 final. She's previously made the Premier Mandatory 2016 Beijing final and won the 2017 Miami Open.
 
PDJ

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I've always thought that Konta is hampered by being much brighter than the average tennis player. And that's why I like her.
 
Mainad

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Aussie Darcy said:
Jo Konta does it.

Knocks out Madrid champ and #3 Bertens to make the Rome final.
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First British woman to make the final in Rome since Wade back in 1971 (d. Masthoff) so she's broken yet another drought for British tennis.

Aussie Darcy said:
Her first Premier 5 final. She's previously made the Premier Mandatory 2016 Beijing final and won the 2017 Miami Open.
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Always get confused with the designated level of WTA events. Are not Premier Mandatory and Premier 5 basically the same thing, both equivalent to Masters 1000s?
 
helixx

helixx

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so happy for konta :whistle: haha its funny she earned this tourney more points than in her whole previous clay court career all together
 
NaomiKonjuhPotapova

NaomiKonjuhPotapova

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Mainad said:
First British woman to make the final in Rome since Wade back in 1971 (d. Masthoff) so she's broken yet another drought for British tennis.



Always get confused with the designated level of WTA events. Are not Premier Mandatory and Premier 5 basically the same thing, both equivalent to Masters 1000s?
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No, Mandatory offer more money, 1000 ranking points and as the name suggest, it's mandatory for top 10 and race to Singapore.

Premier 5 offer 900 ranking points and top 10 can choose 4 out of 5 events to attend that's why most players skip Dubai/Doha. That's also how the race works. It must have 4 GS + 4 PM + 4 P5 and 5 best points on others event.
 
Mark-Touch

Mark-Touch

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Very pleased with the match results today!
Was cheering for both Konta and Pliskova.
It will be difficult to choose between the two tomorrow for preference,
but slight nod in pref. for Konta.

Fave current players:
Osaka
Andreescu
Anisimova
Kvitova
Bencic
Gorges
Mertens
Hsieh
Collins
Konta
Vondrousova
Pliskova
 
SystemicAnomaly

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Mark-Touch said:
Very pleased with the match results today!
Was cheering for both Konta and Pliskova.
It will be difficult to choose between the two tomorrow for preference,
but slight nod in pref. for Konta.

Fave current players:
Osaka
Andreescu
Anisimova
Kvitova
Bencic
Gorges
Mertens
Hsieh
Collins
Konta
Vondrousova
Pliskova
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Was going to give you a thumbs up... But no love for Halep??? :(
 
Mainad

Mainad

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NaomiKonjuhPotapova said:
No, Mandatory offer more money, 1000 ranking points and as the name suggest, it's mandatory for top 10 and race to Singapore.

Premier 5 offer 900 ranking points and top 10 can choose 4 out of 5 events to attend that's why most players skip Dubai/Doha. That's also how the race works. It must have 4 GS + 4 PM + 4 P5 and 5 best points on others event.
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Only 100 ranking points between a Premier Mandatory and a Premier 5? That hardly seems worth it. Why not just make them the same level? o_O
 
SystemicAnomaly

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Mainad said:
Only 100 ranking points between a Premier Mandatory and a Premier 5? That hardly seems worth it. Why not just make them the same level? o_O
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The prize money for PM is more than double the money for P5. And all 4 PM events are required by the top players. With the 5 P5 events, they can chose.

The singles main draw size for PM is usually 96 or 64 (but China might only be 60). The draw size for P5 is normally only 32 to 56.
 
NaomiKonjuhPotapova

NaomiKonjuhPotapova

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Mainad said:
Only 100 ranking points between a Premier Mandatory and a Premier 5? That hardly seems worth it. Why not just make them the same level? o_O
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I think it's okay. IW and Miami are the same level as rest of masters especially Monte Carlo is ridiculous in ATP.

The main difference is the money not the ranking points.
 
NaomiKonjuhPotapova

NaomiKonjuhPotapova

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Mark-Touch said:
She's a funny character for me.
I admire her grit and tenacity and all around game, but I guess something in her character is off-putting for me.
I look at the whole package.
She's certainly got the talent part of it.
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What's the package?
Bertens has more package than most of player you mentioned.
 
Aussie Darcy

Aussie Darcy

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Great year so far for Karolina, wasn't looking the best on clay but really turned it round this week.

Brisbane champ
Aus Open SF
Dubai QF
Indian Wells QF
Miami Final
Stuttgart 2R (had a bye)
Madrid 3R
Rome champ
 
Aussie Darcy

Aussie Darcy

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Azarenka/Barty come from a set down to win the Italian Open doubles title 4-6 6-0 10-3.

It’s Ash’s 10th doubles title, Vika’s 8th and their first doubles title together.
 
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FakeEmpire

FakeEmpire

Professional
Once again, I couldn't watch many Rome matches (hated seeing Bencic losing to Mlady, though). So, for those of you who watched both Madrid and Rome, who seem to be the frontrunners for FO? Hopefully, I'll be able to watch some matches/replays by then...
 
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fundrazer

fundrazer

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FakeEmpire said:
Once again, I couldn't watch many Rome matches (hated seeing Bencic losing to Mlady, though). So, for those of you who watched both Madrid and Rome, who seem to be the frontrunners for FO? Hopefully, I'll be able to watch some matches/replays by then...
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On paper it's probably something like Halep, Bertens, Kvitova (I don't think she's a serious threat, but I don't think it's smart to ignore her). Maybe add Pliskova to the list or ahead of Kvitova, but I think she'd choke towards the end. Svitolina seems to be dealing with injury. Not sure about Osaka on clay. Think there are player who could frustrate her enough. For other players like Sloane or Mugu it depends which version shows up.

I want to believe in the Mug...
 
NaomiKonjuhPotapova

NaomiKonjuhPotapova

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FakeEmpire said:
Once again, I couldn't watch many Rome matches (hated seeing Bencic losing to Mlady, though). So, for those of you who watched both Madrid and Rome, who seem to be the frontrunners for FO? Hopefully, I'll be able to watch some matches/replays by then...
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Front runner: Bertens, Halep, Pliskova.
Not Surprising if they win: Serena, Kvitova, Bencic, Osaka.
Sleeper: Vondrousova, Sloane, Azarenka, Muguruza.
 
FakeEmpire

FakeEmpire

Professional
Thanks for the replies, @fundrazer and @NaomiKonjuhPotapova. I'd love to see Bencic winning it, but I still don't fully believe she's able to get through the finish line. At times, she gives me a Radwanska vibe, in the sense that she can be overpowered and frustrated by some bigger hitters, even though she can generate more pace than Aga. Not to mention the fact she's yet to reach a SF, let alone win a slam.
Bertens and Halep seem to be the "safer" choices then, but I was a little surprised to see Halep go down against Vondrousova. Again, I haven't seen Vondrousova play lately and I didn't watch that particular match, but it came out as a big surprise to me and made me doubt about Halep's prospects a bit (and to top of that, it's the first time she's defending a slam title).
 
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