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NRMM · Aug 7, 2019

I posted this request for help a while ago but it was slightly inconclusive. I play mostly on artificial grass and I find grass tennis shoes to give a really good grip even in slighter slippery humid courts.. however it’s just insane how difficult is it to find NIKE grass tennis shoes.

So my question is: would NIKE clay shoes would be the next best alternative or NIKE all court ones? If that’s a yes for any of them which more would offer you the best grip avoiding just going on the floor...? Many thanks!

Arvin_C · Aug 7, 2019

In place of a true grass shoe, I would pick a shoe with any raised elements, be they blocks, ridges, etc. as they would be more effective on grass than a shoe with a totally flat sole. When manufacturers make a grass or artificial surface (carpet/astroturf) shoe, they always incorporate some knobby or nub elements in the sole design. These knobs/nubs are what allow the shoe to "grab" the grass/turf...it doesn't penetrate into the ground like a cleat. It's this grabbing-action that provides the traction.

If that's not an option, I'd probably go with a clay shoe as it would have a more "open" design that could allow for better bite on the surface and, more importantly, allow you to easily "bang out" any grass or debris that accumulates in the sole...as grass and debris build up in the crevices of the sole, you will begin to lose traction.

For reference sake, I used to work winters at a club where we had several astroturf courts and I offer my opinions based on my experiences there...Good luck!

Arvin C

bertrevert · Aug 7, 2019

Artificial grass, astro turf, is only gonna give you buildup of sand, hopefully not debris like real grass (I say hopefully because the club should be maintaining the artificial grass better than leaving debris ie. there should be only sand).

However having said that, there are a heck of a lot of artificial grass crts in Aus, perhaps the majority, and we all use whatever shoe we want to. Sole-wise, shoes for hc, grass, artificial are used interchangeably - I do like where you're going with this, that is going for grass sole, however I'm unsure of any performance advantages...???

imajica77 · Aug 7, 2019

Try Omni shoes. They are designed for artificial grass. TWE sells them. PS....You don't have to buy Nike. There are other shoe companies that make better shoes.....stop being a sheep.

NRMM · Aug 8, 2019

imajica77 said:
Try Omni shoes. They are designed for artificial grass. TWE sells them. PS....You don't have to buy Nike. There are other shoe companies that make better shoes.....stop being a sheep.

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dnguyen · Aug 9, 2019

Pimple outsole is what you need, still looking for buy one ronprevent me from falling.

NRMM · Aug 11, 2019

Arvin_C said:
In place of a true grass shoe, I would pick a shoe with any raised elements, be they blocks, ridges, etc. as they would be more effective on grass than a shoe with a totally flat sole. When manufacturers make a grass or artificial surface (carpet/astroturf) shoe, they always incorporate some knobby or nub elements in the sole design. These knobs/nubs are what allow the shoe to "grab" the grass/turf...it doesn't penetrate into the ground like a cleat. It's this grabbing-action that provides the traction.

If that's not an option, I'd probably go with a clay shoe as it would have a more "open" design that could allow for better bite on the surface and, more importantly, allow you to easily "bang out" any grass or debris that accumulates in the sole...as grass and debris build up in the crevices of the sole, you will begin to lose traction.

For reference sake, I used to work winters at a club where we had several astroturf courts and I offer my opinions based on my experiences there...Good luck!

Arvin C

Which Nike with such sole pattern would spring to your mind?

NRMM · Aug 11, 2019

bertrevert said:
Artificial grass, astro turf, is only gonna give you buildup of sand, hopefully not debris like real grass (I say hopefully because the club should be maintaining the artificial grass better than leaving debris ie. there should be only sand).

However having said that, there are a heck of a lot of artificial grass crts in Aus, perhaps the majority, and we all use whatever shoe we want to. Sole-wise, shoes for hc, grass, artificial are used interchangeably - I do like where you're going with this, that is going for grass sole, however I'm unsure of any performance advantages...???

Sadly not much sand which means that if it’s humid/rainy the Astro gets slippery....

NRMM · Aug 11, 2019

dnguyen said:
Pimple outsole is what you need, still looking for buy one ronprevent me from falling.

Yeah not sure why Nike continues to rarely sell pimpled ones for grass...

AndI · Aug 11, 2019

Thank you, NRNM, for providing a learning experience. We have no grass courts (nor clay courts) in our area and all we know is concrete. It is the first time I understood the difference - a special texture of the sole - and even found a picture of how it looks like. Thank you! It turned out that Head and Babolat make them.

Nike does not care much about tennis. In their employee store, there is a huge section, half of the store, filled with shoes and only about two feet wide section of a shelf has tennis shoes. This is very telling.

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