Timing and racket orientation.
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Racket orientation is relative to the rhs, so if you hit slow, you need more of a neutral orientation, cause you swing down and a slow shot would not fly into the back of the court with a really open stringbed.
Contact in front and fast enough rhs combined with suitable racket face is required.
The often not seen big factor is, that you drive your mass thru the ball, not just sling the racket underneath the ball. If you look at them consistent low ball slicers, you’ll find, that they lean forward thru impact. And make contact quite near the high point after the ball bounced.
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My volleys are a strength. You think I should view the slice as a "big volley". So punch at the ball? So a lopez kind of slice.
I wouldn’t call it a punch, cause there is a follow thru as well. Could be it is a punch, but I think it is more of a swing. Punch draws an image of a more parallel and straight forward motion.
My non-tennis word would be plouw-thru in an accelerating manner.
Lopez seems to carve the finish letting the racket twist enhancing the spin on this.
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But lopez's slice seem to have the least amount of follow through compared to other players.
I notice some of the older experienced players can consistently hit low biting backhand slices. What is the trick to doing it consistently??
Of course that needs a lot of practice.
Assuming the rest of your technique is sound
- Lean into the shot
- Cut straight down
- (for me) hit a bit later and closer to the body
Assuming the rest of your technique is sound
- Lean into the shot
- Cut straight down
- (for me) hit a bit later and closer to the body
See, I was taught the opposite, and the coach back then justified his instruction saying "we don't use wooden racquets anymore and no-one on tour hits it like that anymore unless it's a reaction slice or too close to the body"Disagree with "cut straight down": IMO, that will lead to a lot of variability that's hard to control. I was taught to make more of a shallow U shape and drive through the ball.
4.5, but I can compete with 5.0 (and lose 6-4) if my rotator cuff allows me to serve like I want toSounds good. What level player are you? Just wondering.
See, I was taught the opposite, and the coach back then justified his instruction saying "we don't use wooden racquets anymore and no-one on tour hits it like that anymore unless it's a reaction slice or too close to the body"
I basically just copied what Fed and Dimitrov do for the most part. Works pretty well for me unless I try to slice too early and frame the ball. Keeps the ball nice and low. If the ball is a bit far out and I'm on the defence, I can use my wrist for a bit more punch. If the ball is too close to my body then I can carve the ball while pushing the ball away. Different slice strokes for different situations for the most part.Mattek-Sands demonstrates your approach [FF to 0:51 and 1:06]:
That said, the "other" type of slice that Blair Henley was teaching (which I maintain is the worst video on this topic ever made) makes no sense since by her logic I'd be making contact with the ball with the hitting face pointing at the sun. Since the ball is moving forward, how on earth am I going to reliably hit the middle of the sweet spot when the racquet face is practically parallel to the direction in which the ball is moving?
It'd be like trying to hit topspin by having the racquet in the PTD position and then never opening up the racquet face so it points at the ground from start to finish.
She never actually says that in the instructional video IIRCIt's like hitting a backhand smash, or like the same principles as hitting a serve, only backwards in a way. You initially pull the handle towards the contact point but as you swing, you rotate the arm/wrist to bring the racket face into contact at the desired angle.
Play with a 13.5 oz racquet and you will get it.
Sidespin.I notice some of the older experienced players can consistently hit low biting backhand slices. What is the trick to doing it consistently??
Sidespin.
How does adding sidespin make a slice lower and more biting? I can hit a floaty sidespin slice just as easily as a floaty non-sidespin slice, so clearly for me sidespin is not the dominant variable.
I find two things are crucial to penetration on the slice bh:
1. Hitting straight through the ball, keeping your strings perpendicular to your target and racquet travelling toward your target as far as you can, without breaking the V at the back of your wrist. (Point 2)
2. Keep your wrist fully cocked. (Racquet head as high above your wrist as possible). This is the opposite of what you'd do with your wrist if you were hitting a wristy inside out bh drop shot. So you're trying to hit with pure backspin (provided by the tilt of the racquet) with as little sidespin as possible. The V mentioned in this point is actually the most important thing. You need to practice maintaining a cocked wrist in varying situations.
Nope, sidespin keeps the ball low.
I don't see why it would keep the ball low. but it does make it difficult to return because you have to get your racquet low and around it and if you misread it you can end up overstepping and jamming yourself.
Sidespin keeps the ball low, that's a fact but is not because of the sidespin, is because of the path of the racquet, if you really impart sidespin on the ball you have to impact it on the back, the ball will go low, if you impact under the ball it will go with backspin, if you hit it right it will go low.
Nope, sidespin keeps the ball low.
The question isn't whether sidespin keeps the ball low; the question is why does sidespin keep the ball lower than no sidespin?
Because backspin doesn't cause the bounce to change. Sidespin makes the ball go sideways, not bounce so high. The force sending it sideways is subtracted from the bounce.
From a physics standpoint, that doesn't make sense.
From a practical standpoint, I haven't experimented enough to confirm or deny it.
Energy that would have directed the ball forward and up is now shifted to the side.