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G.O.A.T.
And that @ByeByePoly are talking with me from the other side!
Maybe one or other crazies who still alive may answer to my questions! Some zombie maybe! Or @KluddKalle!
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And that @ByeByePoly are talking with me from the other side!
Maybe one or other crazies who still alive may answer to my questions! Some zombie maybe! Or @KluddKalle!
And that @ByeByePoly are talking with me from the other side!
Maybe one or other crazies who still alive may answer to my questions! Some zombie maybe! Or @KluddKalle!
Played with the black V today on carpet indoors (of course). It is strung at 44 lbs in my Prince 93p. I must say it is buttery soft which I like. Spin was all there! BUT: the strings moved from minute 1. And they really moved and stayed out of place so it got really annoying. So much, I later switched back to my hyper G/ Alu Power Purple set up. Well, I don’t think that string is for me. I must admit that we play really heavy balls with a lot of spin, so that string doesn’t seem to take this kind of tennis very well, I assume. We play the third highest league you can play as a over 30 senior here in Germany, so our level is quite high. I guess I sadly must stick to my co-poly set up. But it was worth a try.
Yes, the Hyper Alu plays quite straight for 3 hours or so. Little movement there.Since you hit a heavy ball ... you would be good feedback on V/ALU power. I wonder if a poly cross keeps V mains straight, or at least straighter.
Does hyper G/ Alu Power stay straight for you?
Since you hit a heavy ball ... you would be good feedback on V/ALU power. I wonder if a poly cross keeps V mains straight, or at least straighter.
Does hyper G/ Alu Power stay straight for you?
Yes, the Hyper Alu plays quite straight for 3 hours or so. Little movement there.
I wanna try origin/V just once. For those who play this combo, how is the movement there?
When we talk about black V and string movement when you hit with lot of spin, should elasto croses help to reduce the movement?
What then if I use black V in hybrid with Lynx in crosses (a very slippery string)?
Hi BBP My experience with elastocross is similar to DD's, that they dont lock the strings at all, but slide relatively easily and I still get reasonable snap back and topspin. I don't know how much difference it makes, but I wax my strings with bow string wax.Most players want the snapback (mains slide open at impact and snapback straight) for topspin. That's one of the reasons slippery poly is popular. The elasto cross is for the opposite ... reduce string movement and friction to prolong the life of the strings ... typically trying to get gut or multi mains to last longer. Some put the crosses in a pattern right off the stringer ... others chase the fray/notch. A fb of V would get less ts loaded up with elasto crosses.
Hi BBP My experience with elastocross is similar to DD's, that they dont lock the strings at all, but slide relatively easily and I still get reasonable snap back and topspin. I don't know how much difference it makes, but I wax my strings with bow string wax.
I have applied stencil ink to my strings with elastocross installed in the hitting zone and elastocross wipes the ink off very cleanly like a windshield wiper--very distinct line.
In my case, the elastocross just dissipates the force so that the strings don't cut, but still slide. The more elastocrosses I use in the hitting zone, the more the tension is increased but the snap back is still okay.
BTW, I routinely use elastocrosses outside of the hitting area to adjust tension tighter, for more control. Maybe up to 10 at the tip of the string bed, 5 middle main strings and top 2 crosses, and 10 in the same configuration at the bottom, plays a couple of #s tighter with plenty of topspin.
When we talk about black V and string movement when you hit with lot of spin, should elasto croses help to reduce the movement?
What then if I use black V in hybrid with Lynx in crosses (a very slippery string)?
Go higher... Or hybridPlayed with the black V today on carpet indoors (of course). It is strung at 44 lbs in my Prince 93p. I must say it is buttery soft which I like. Spin was all there! BUT: the strings moved from minute 1. And they really moved and stayed out of place so it got really annoying. So much, I later switched back to my hyper G/ Alu Power Purple set up. Well, I don’t think that string is for me. I must admit that we play really heavy balls with a lot of spin, so that string doesn’t seem to take this kind of tennis very well, I assume. We play the third highest league you can play as a over 30 senior here in Germany, so our level is quite high. I guess I sadly must stick to my co-poly set up. But it was worth a try.
Thanks! I find now in my store the black V and I want to test it! I buy both diam: 1.25 and 1.30 but I already now think that 1.25 should fit me better.Black V with a slippery poly cross works pretty well. More spin than full bed V, stays playable for longer than full poly but as you'd expect, mains will break quicker.
Played with the black V today on carpet indoors (of course). It is strung at 44 lbs in my Prince 93p. I must say it is buttery soft which I like. Spin was all there! BUT: the strings moved from minute 1. And they really moved and stayed out of place so it got really annoying. So much, I later switched back to my hyper G/ Alu Power Purple set up. Well, I don’t think that string is for me. I must admit that we play really heavy balls with a lot of spin, so that string doesn’t seem to take this kind of tennis very well, I assume. We play the third highest league you can play as a over 30 senior here in Germany, so our level is quite high. I guess I sadly must stick to my co-poly set up. But it was worth a try.
I've tried to forget the discussion about "smelly" balls and I almost succeed. Now you remember me again! It's "disgusting"!I am on the record as anti-spraying ... just so wrong. But I noticed @Dan D just found our disgusting "spraying" discussion ... so fyi for those so inclined:
This thread spawned some very important topics ... like Mary Ann or Ginger. If anyone doesn't get that reference, count yourself lucky.
Well, elasto crosses also increase spin and movement for me, but I’m not really into them.
So, Origin / V has less string movement? That’s good. I’m trying this in three weeks. As we have games the following two weeks, I have to stick to the fb poly.
BTW, has anyone of you TE sufferers ever tried WeissCannon Scorpion 1.22? It’s a great string, controlled as a poly should be but way easier on the arm than any poly I’ve ever tried.
I've tried to forget the discussion about "smelly" balls and I almost succeed. Now you remember me again! It's "disgusting"!
And what stop you to tell that?! You are used to hear from your supreme "commander" about that fake news exist!I would like to tell you that was our rock bottom ... but it was not.
And what stop you to tell that?! You are used to hear from your supreme "commander" about that fake news exist!
Sorry: I take it back!Don't talk about that in this Book of V thread .... elsewhere ... we have to keep this Book of V string nostalgia for future generations. We will look quite primitive in hindsight.
You guys in this thread convinced me to try Velocity in my new to me BLX Six.One 95 16x18. It was previously strung with NXT 16 which is basically the only string I've ever used in any racket. In this racket, the NXT was an absolute rocket launcher and I felt it was uncontrollable.
I had a full bed strung at 55lbs on an electronic machine with 10% prestretch.
First impression strumming the strings is that 55 is probably way too tight for my liking.
First impression after the first hit is YUP this is a low powered multi compared to NXT. And YUP I strung it too tight. Also it's so muted there's no ringing of the strings on ball impact. I don't feel any need for a dampener like I do with NXT. I'd probably try 48-50lbs next since I string my PS90s at 45-46 with NXT.
The strings make a clack when you hit with a decent amount of spin. I assume this is due to snapback. It is definitely easier to generate spin with this string than NXT but it's not a miracle. If you hit flat, it'll be flat. If you hit with spin, it'll have slightly more than with NXT. As a mostly flat hitter who can ramp up the spin when needed, I appreciate the little bit of help but I will need to recalibrate so my shots don't fall short and spinny.
HTH anyone else.
I know there has been a lot of chapters about the black and natural differences in the Book of V but after scrolling through numerous pages, I was wondering if anyone could give me a break down in the following categories:
1. String movement/ Notching
2. Spin
3. Power
4. Longevity
Much obliged!
I'm doing Natural Velocity 16g with head hawk 17g crosses in a speed pro 360 graphene @52/49 lbs.Since you hit a heavy ball ... you would be good feedback on V/ALU power. I wonder if a poly cross keeps V mains straight, or at least straighter.
Does hyper G/ Alu Power stay straight for you?
So far it seems OK, but haven't tested it with new balls.
Don't know if anyone answered to this already but there is a 1,40 version in France as well:Velocity 15
Don't know if anyone answered to this already but there is a 1,40 version in France as well:
HEAD VELOCITY MLT STRING REEL (200 METRES) - HEAD - String | Tennispro
<p>Do you love having good feel when you play tennis ? Are you looking for <strong>comfort</strong> ? Maybe a little more <strong>power</strong> ? Do not hesitate and get this <strong>Head Velocity MLT string</strong> as it insures superior life spanwww.tennispro.eu
I was very happy with V natural 16g/ hawk 17g in the Speed Pro Graphene 360.Speed pro not exactly a power stick, so new balls with this string combo should be good.
And now I came at the end to plough to the entire V-thread! A lot of very interesting posts in 4 days!!! I'm very tired!
I’m marked for life. I know now more unuseful things about Velocity than all my tennis mates together.You must have a high pain threshold ... it's going to leave a mark.
What do you mean: Velocity don't suite well in a flexy frame? How can you managed to have Velocity in a flexi frame than: to have another tension than i stiff frames, to have poly in crosses or another thing?I just hit my old Yonex RDIS 200 lite with FB Velocity, and was reminded how strings can feel very different in different frames. The RDIS is around 61 stiffness, and the V1 Pros 68. As far as feel goes, Velocity feels better in the stiffer frame. But then I always had problem making strings feel good in the flexy RDIS ... while I played some of the best baseline tennis with it I every have. Unfortunately I just had the same experience with the RDIS ... 1) this does not feel right / as good 2) holy crap ... I'm not missing anything. If I go back and start hitting with the Yonex ... I am going to blame it on @Traffic ... he has the "change the racquet disease" going on.
If the string loose tension very quickly in which way should it fit a flexy frame? When that occur in my Blades 104 2015 I can't play well. I need at least 55 lbs tension because of exactly what you said: the string loose tension and is very muted! In my case I tested with Lynx who is very soft in comparison with with other poly!OK ... this is really going to violate this thread .... but the current thought in my head is to try fb Volkl Cyclone Tour 16g in the Yonex ... maybe @50 since it loses so much tension quickly ... and see if 1) the power is good for the low powered RDIS ... and 2) my elbow doesn't protest. The RDIS has a much more open string pattern than the V1 Pro ... so I will break Velocity quicker. Also ... that open string pattern is begging for straight strings and some big topspin (mainly I'm thinking about my kicker serve for doubles).
Somebody stop me
I planed to have hybrid V/Lynx @ 54/60. After the strings settle I can get maybe 52/42. Even than I think that 42 is to low but the frame take no more than 60 in tension.fyi ... V1 Pro I have been playing matches with is about 11.4 oz, ... 3-4 HL. The Yonex is about 11.2 ... not sure on balance but closer to even balance ... say 1-2 HL. They are close enough so the difference in feel of Velocity pretty much comes down to flex. I bet I could take that fb V @52 to fb V @45 in the Yonex and it would feel better (just guessing). The Yonex is the only noodle/flexy racquet I have owned ... really have trouble making strings feel good compared to what I have been used to with stiff racquets. But ... Yonex with fb RPM Blast was about my best baseline tennis ever .... just never liked the feel. Can't have everything.
Yep you got it - just going with 'crack/quack' re the avatar; mighty fine female Mallard if I'm not mistaken?I'm also in chock and amazed over my resilience, ha ha.
Maybe I'm going to "quack" later... Or I'm going to "bark" up the wrong tree. Or you meant like an apropos to my avatar?!
I don't know which sort is it.Yep you got it - just going with 'crack/quack' re the avatar; mighty fine female Mallard if I'm not mistaken?
What do you mean: Velocity don't suite well in a flexy frame? How can you managed to have Velocity in a flexi frame than: to have another tension than i stiff frames, to have poly in crosses or another thing?
If the string loose tension very quickly in which way should it fit a flexy frame? When that occur in my Blades 104 2015 I can't play well. I need at least 55 lbs tension because of exactly what you said: the string loose tension and is very muted! In my case I tested with Lynx who is very soft in comparison with with other poly!
I planed to have hybrid V/Lynx @ 54/60. After the strings settle I can get maybe 52/42. Even than I think that 42 is to low but the frame take no more than 60 in tension.
Ok, I understand.You can pretty much ignore those comments about Velocity. What was going on there was brother Traffic and me had followed the Volkl V1 Pros and Velocity together, and he had recently got new racquet fever and dropped the V1 Pros. This planted the "different racquet" evil thought in my head ( pay back from me doing similar to him A LOT ) ... so I pulled out my old Yonex RDIS 200 and tried it again with Velocity. The RDIS RA is around 60ish ... it is the only non-stiff racquet I have played with. In the past, I played some of my best baseline tennis ever with it ... but always struggled to like the feel no matter what string I put in it. I played my best with RPM Blast in it @52.
So ... that all was really more about me coming to grips with the fact that I prefer non-flexy racquets (although one 60 RA racquet is not enough of a sample) ... than how Velocity played in it. My V1 Pros are RA 68 with the Volkl arm friendly magic ... and it's about perfect for my preference.
The blade 104 is a doubles stick. Is that your game? If so, V poly is a great option with some lead tape @ 3/9.Ok, I understand.
But in my situation, in generally, if the frame is soft (Blade 104 2015 59RA), if the string is soft (if I want to use a soft string) what can I do? I like to have a little bit of power in the racquet therefor I thought that with V in mains and Lynx in crosses should deliver enough power.
Otherwise I can take my 2 Pure Strike 98 2014 66RA and test them with Velo! But in this case maybe with FB Velo!!! Or even my Aero Pro Drive 2013 70RA who I have!
I bought my Blades because I want to take care of my arm and shoulder! Now it seams like I should go back to my PSs!!!
I don't know. I must to reflect more!
Ok, I understand.
But in my situation, in generally, if the frame is soft (Blade 104 2015 59RA), if the string is soft (if I want to use a soft string) what can I do? I like to have a little bit of power in the racquet therefor I thought that with V in mains and Lynx in crosses should deliver enough power.
Otherwise I can take my 2 Pure Strike 98 2014 66RA and test them with Velo! But in this case maybe with FB Velo!!! Or even my Aero Pro Drive 2013 70RA who I have!
I bought my Blades because I want to take care of my arm and shoulder! Now it seams like I should go back to my PSs!!!
I don't know. I must to reflect more!
Yes, Blade 104 fit me. With Lynx 1.25 @55/55 I play very well with them. But the truth is that I can play well even with APD (who have now Sensation 1.25) and PS (with Sensation 1.25 also). I moved to Blade only because I want to test something who can lower the risk of TE. I don't have any issue for now (and I didn't hade in the past) but I want to test softer frame/string now before I do get into problems with that. I'm 57!The blade 104 is a doubles stick. Is that your game? If so, V poly is a great option with some lead tape @ 3/9.
Yes of course: it's true.Nah ... we all have different preferences on feel and power preference. I would not go back to the 2014 PS .. based on my brief time with it and what I have read here ... probably an elbow risk. Yes ... for me with the Yonex ... it felt like the added flex was good against pace, but I wanted more pop generating my own pace (serve for example).
Ok, I understand.
But in my situation, in generally, if the frame is soft (Blade 104 2015 59RA), if the string is soft (if I want to use a soft string) what can I do? I like to have a little bit of power in the racquet therefor I thought that with V in mains and Lynx in crosses should deliver enough power.
Otherwise I can take my 2 Pure Strike 98 2014 66RA and test them with Velo! But in this case maybe with FB Velo!!! Or even my Aero Pro Drive 2013 70RA who I have!
I bought my Blades because I want to take care of my arm and shoulder! Now it seams like I should go back to my PSs!!!
I don't know. I must to reflect more!