Tennisflood
New User
I just saw the new Head Prestige 360+ they are all red with the 1989 burgundy at the bottom all the models have the same specs! The demo's should be available December 5"
2020 Head Prestige 360+
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Deleted member 756272
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Thanks! Same specs as the Graphene touch?
Tennisflood
New User
Yes that's what the catalog says but with the new material im sure it feels more solid with more pop!
Tennisflood
New User
The speed looks like the youtec model in white!
1990's Graphite
Hall of Fame
At least its glossy
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I Hope this is a joke because it looks nothing like the 1988-1992 red and brown Prestige Pro
Tennisflood
New User
Of course it's not the same if you switch it around it will be close i have all of those rackets including the grey and green muster frame and TXP they will never go backwards they always move on!
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
It’s not even close! I have all the racquets too including the orginal brown paint Prestige Pro from 1986. The 1988-1992 Prestige Pro is glossy metallic red and brown. With the brown having a red glow to it.
Tennisflood
New User
I have all black ones before they paint them those would make you happy probably! Head makes there rackets bright so they can be seen on TV better! Look at the extreme and instinct they would look better switched around!
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Deleted member 756272
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Wait is this for real? It’s so logical.
Tennisflood
New User
Yes they said the first instincts were to dark then they made it white and light blue! I've work for head since 1996
TennisHound
Legend
They would all be “okay” if it wasn’t for Graphene
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
The first Instinct was gold and was highly visible. Liquidmetal Instinct. The Prestige is now much brighter than the Radical. Also the Graphene Prestige l, XT Prestige and the Touch Prestige have been predominately black racquets with the XT and a Touch being very dark and black. I really hope you don’t really work for HEAD because it would explain a lot of why HEAD has the problems they do now.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I have test racquets too and they look much better than these monstrosities. The extreme and instinct look Walmart racquets now. No class.
Tennisflood
New User
Tennisflood
New User
Head dosent have any problems if they did they wouldn't be selling at the top of the racket market along with wilson and the reason they dont sell the same rackets the pros play with is because no one on this board would be able to swing them ive hit with all the Head pro's racket all of them and they are all well over 12oz unstrung.
Tennisflood
New User
Head is doing great in sales the speed was a top selling racket of 2019 so i guess they are doing something right!
tennis347
Hall of Fame
One of the best racquets of all time!!
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
You know nothing. HEAD pro stock racquets all start out as very light hairpins. They can be to any specs you want!
Here is a lovely TGT292.1 Prestige Mid in absolutely lovely Touch Prestige paint job. It plays very close to the Prestige Classic. Lovely feeling and playing racquet customized to my personal specs. Lovely.
Here is one of my PT57A2(Pro Tour 630/280) in Graphene Prestige MP paint job. Lovely playing racquet and what the Prestige MP should play like.
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Speed looks a hell of a lot better than Virginia Tech inspired Prestige racquets. No one is playing with Prestige anymore they are all playing with the Wilson Blade.
Tennisflood
New User
Yes i know nothing thats why i have the catalog i will be sure not to show you anything, i will be geting the new Instinct and extreme in July but no pics for you. The all black joker bag and prestige mp will be in my room on Monday!
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
You don't know very much about racquets.
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Tennisflood
New User
I do know i will be hitting with the new Prestige on Monday!
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Deleted member 756272
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Please let me know how flexible these are.
I'm open to 98si but tire of trying to find a replacement for the classic prestiges. It may just be time to commit to a modern frame, so I may just go for the Speed instead of continuing to compromise with the Prestige line.
Tennisflood
New User
The gravity pro feels like a old school racket
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Demo the Wilson Blade V7. It feels and sounds like a classic HEAD racquet from the 1990’s.
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Deleted member 756272
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I bought a Head Tennis Sensor (the one that goes into the buttcap) and need a Head racket. Acknowledging that the data science still needs some tuning, but it was really nice having some stats about my hitting sessions. I've thought about clipping 2cm of the hairpin inside the handle, but afraid of damaging the frames. Also, don't know how the tennis sensor will handle a hacked tennis racket.
So here's my thought process, if I'm chasing that classic feel, its better to use pro stocks or the PTs and iPrestiges still left over in good condition. I'm tired of the cycle of buying a new model, hoping it feels like the classics, and then trying to resell them after a few hitting sessions.
@vsbabolat - With the Blade v7, acknowledging it could come close, but would rather wait for a matched pair of PT57As. Right? PT57 > Blade v7?
@Tennisflood - Don't want to buy a new set of Gravities only to get burned again. If I have to compromise on head size and switch lines, then I'd rather go all in and switch to a different racket.
Instead of chasing that classic feel, Head has turned me off to the Prestige line, so will commit to and try something else. 22mm beam and 98si sounds suspicious. I'm afraid it'll have a stiff hoop and feel nothing like the pre 2010 prestiges. :'(
I feel like I've been stuck in a loop and need to break free to quit burning money. Eating 25-50% discount reselling rackets is exhausting. Are other folks on this thread experiencing the same thing?
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I’ve jump off the BS with HEAD and only play with Austrian racquets or when a new PT57A with the current paint job when they come my way. I have no interest in their BS marketing. I haven’t bought a new HEAD since 2014 when the first awful Graphene came out. Turned me off very how that thing played.
Demo the Blade V7 and you can make an informed decision.
Tennisflood
New User
They reversed the colours, white on top black at the throat i held them last Wed they look great. I saw all the 2020 product's!
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
I'm always interested to hear about the new Prestige and Radical racquets in the hope that they will return to the great racquets they used to be in the '90s, early 2000s, and the Youtek IG range.
However, in all honesty, if they don't the only shame is for Head and their apparent desire to self-destruct. I take care of my racquets, and I have several examples of all the "greats" (at least in my book - PT630, RT630s, i.Prestige MP and Mid, MG Prestige Pro, IG Prestige MP and Mid, i.Radical MP, TXP Pro, Prestige 600, LM Radical MP), so that is enough racquets for a lifetime. I rotate them, take care of them, and also have other great racquets from other brands... if they never return to their glory days, it's their funeral because I'm set and I won't buy any more of their new crap.
Maybe that was their perfection and they feel they would kill themselves off if they just produced the same thing with different colours. Let's face it, we would then be saying "why should I buy this new one... it's the same as the last one but this new colour." Would that be enough for all of us to justify forking out top dollar time and time again... I'm not sure. Then we'd just buy up the paint job we liked the most and complain about how they don't make that colour anymore.
I'm set either way... and Head will either return to making great racquets... or not.
Rant over.
However, in all honesty, if they don't the only shame is for Head and their apparent desire to self-destruct. I take care of my racquets, and I have several examples of all the "greats" (at least in my book - PT630, RT630s, i.Prestige MP and Mid, MG Prestige Pro, IG Prestige MP and Mid, i.Radical MP, TXP Pro, Prestige 600, LM Radical MP), so that is enough racquets for a lifetime. I rotate them, take care of them, and also have other great racquets from other brands... if they never return to their glory days, it's their funeral because I'm set and I won't buy any more of their new crap.
Maybe that was their perfection and they feel they would kill themselves off if they just produced the same thing with different colours. Let's face it, we would then be saying "why should I buy this new one... it's the same as the last one but this new colour." Would that be enough for all of us to justify forking out top dollar time and time again... I'm not sure. Then we'd just buy up the paint job we liked the most and complain about how they don't make that colour anymore.
I'm set either way... and Head will either return to making great racquets... or not.
Rant over.
McLovin
Legend
Fixed it for you
TennisHound
Legend
Okay, we know Head retail racquets are junk. They are fun to play around with though. I kinda like the look of these, even if they look more like a Radical than Prestige.
Alexh22
Professional
Is it too much to ask for a retail PT113b for over $200 of our hard earned money ?
Yes because head is a deceiving company and their goal is to rip off those who are uneducated. Their pro stocks are Very customizable and they are not that heavy. What they sell to the public has become worse and worse every year. Most of those head retail sticks are junk and they will not help you to play better tennis. head conceal their better models even though they still want your money.
Yes because head is a deceiving company and their goal is to rip off those who are uneducated. Their pro stocks are Very customizable and they are not that heavy. What they sell to the public has become worse and worse every year. Most of those head retail sticks are junk and they will not help you to play better tennis. head conceal their better models even though they still want your money.
Tennisflood
New User
They will never make a prestige of the 90s the players now want stiff light rackets they take huge cuts at the ball it's all about fiscal tennis!
Alexh22
Professional
Agreed. What Murray achieved with the prestige is incredible and I was disgusted how he allowed them to paint it orange and force him to call them radical. He would not be even close if he played with today’s prestige, if you can still call them prestige. I guess I need more info on the new prestige but head has been disappointing me again and again.
And there is no one who can replace my man Safin.
And there is no one who can replace my man Safin.
Keizer
Hall of Fame
They did with the IG though. That was in 2011/2012 or so.
Tennisflood
New User
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Im sure the new Prestige is nothing like Murray's prestige but the 360+ will have more pop than the touch model im going to hit with it tomorrow!
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Actually Murray uses the Pro Tour 630. Also the original Radical was the same mold as the Pro Tour 630. Here is one of my Radical Tour TwinTube which is the same mold as the Pro Tour 630.
It looks just like the Prestige MP. What HEAD did was turn the Prestige line into the Radical. The OG Prestige line was Midsize of 89.5sq.in and an MP of 102sq.in
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Murray uses the PT57A2 which at retail was the Pro Tour 630
FourOutOfFive
Rookie
Man, Head corporate must really love you. You don’t make any effort to educate yourself about racquet history and instead lap up the company’s new offerings without a thought.
Tennisflood
New User
Great racket!
Alexh22
Professional
Great info. This is before my time with tennis. But since when did the radicals ditch the CAP ?
jmacdaununder2
Legend
I'd say the 2020 Prestige is about as close to a 'real' Prestige as a retail Camry is to a NASCAR Camry.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
They didn’t come with CAP grommets. But since it’s a TK57 mold TK57 CAP grommets fit and I prefer to have CAP grommets on my TK57 racquets.
