@Louis33, try the 17 gauge. I've hit with both and 17 gauge is much crisper, softer and gives way more spin compared to the 16 gauge. I would say they don't even feel like the same string. The difference in feeling due to the gauge is astounding.
I thought "crisper" was the opposite of "softer"?
@Louis33, try the 17 gauge. I've hit with both and 17 gauge is much crisper, softer and gives way more spin compared to the 16 gauge. I would say they don't even feel like the same string. The difference in feeling due to the gauge is astounding.
Thanks for the tip FIRE. I’m currently using 16 main rackets and prefer either 15 or 16g strings for mains, but if I ever go back to 18x20 I will try the 17g out.
This is the first full bed of shaped strings I have tried before, and another thing I noticed was the lack of snapback from the strings. It was really strange because my string bed would keep getting displaced. It reminded me of playing with synthetic gut the way the strings were behaving. I almost always play with slick multi/poly hybrid or full bed round poly strings that snap back well, so perhaps the extra friction from the shaped strings were causing this? Whatever it was I just didn’t care for the string.
Interesting experience @Louis33. What are your strings of choice in an important match or tournament?
I’m testing out various strings at the moment that I’m liking but I played with a multi/poly for years due to tennis elbow so currently Gosen ak pro cx 16g mains with Kirschbaum max power 16g crosses is my go to setup. Head velocity 16g is the second best multi I found and use that also. I’m currently playing head velocity 16 with tour bite 16L and am finding the square profile of tour bite is not denting the soft multi as much and performing well. Tour bite 15L/ big hitter silver 16 I’m liking in my second racket so may try this setup again. I purchased a reel of 16g and 17g Kirschbaum max power to try a full bed poly setup to compare results. Planning on trying a full bed big hitter silver 16 to compare to max power or perhaps hybrid big hitter/max power for a softer stringbed than just max power. I string a full bed big hitter silver 16 for my tennis partner and he loves it. I’m not very picky when it comes to tennis strings I just don’t care for mushy and elastic string with lots of power or a high trajectory inconsistent response. I hit with plenty of power and spin just looking for consistency with my setups.
Max power will hurt your old elbow injury I fear. It is very harsh!I’m testing out various strings at the moment that I’m liking but I played with a multi/poly for years due to tennis elbow so currently Gosen ak pro cx 16g mains with Kirschbaum max power 16g crosses is my go to setup. Head velocity 16g is the second best multi I found and use that also. I’m currently playing head velocity 16 with tour bite 16L and am finding the square profile of tour bite is not denting the soft multi as much and performing well. Tour bite 15L/ big hitter silver 16 I’m liking in my second racket so may try this setup again. I purchased a reel of 16g and 17g Kirschbaum max power to try a full bed poly setup to compare results. Planning on trying a full bed big hitter silver 16 to compare to max power or perhaps hybrid big hitter/max power for a softer stringbed than just max power. I string a full bed big hitter silver 16 for my tennis partner and he loves it. I’m not very picky when it comes to tennis strings I just don’t care for mushy and elastic string with lots of power or a high trajectory inconsistent response. I hit with plenty of power and spin just looking for consistency with my setups.
Head Velocity is our go to multi to put in our demos - great string! It's easy on the arm, yet has a little bite to it (similar to Wilson Sensation imo). For some clients if I want to go softer I'll use Head Reflex, Wilson Nxt, Tecnifibre Nrg2.
Max power will hurt your old elbow injury I fear. It is very harsh!
I haven't. How do you compare it to the others?Yes it is a great string. I’m curious have you tried Gosen ak pro cx multi?
Poly does get a bad rap but I've never been hurt by polys mainly because I string in the 40s, and if it feels to stiff then I move on fast.Yeah it’s one of the stiffest polys I have played with. It’s been over a year since I have had any problems luckily. I spent a lot of time in the weight room strengthening, and play a much smoother relaxed game. I will make sure to sting the max power as low as I can and be vigilant of any pain. It’s funny because poly gets a bad rap around here for causing tennis elbow but it was actually synthetic gut that contributed to mine. I had to string in the 60s to have enough control and the stringbed played much stiffer than what I’m playing now. My elbow started improving when I switched to poly because I was getting the control I needed and was able to swing smoothly letting my equipment do the work
I haven't. How do you compare it to the others?
I can't say I've used a ton of multi for my personal use but I try everything the reps give us, that we carry in our pro shop (and that I'll recommend for people to string with).
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Interesting. Yeah, I've found the colored version of Velocity (we use black a lot) is slicker than natural, and that Reflex is less slick/crisp and softer than Velocity (which it's designed for).I give it a slight edge over velocity. It’s not as slick but gives a feel similar to natural gut where velocity plays a bit more crisper. Tension maintenance seems to be a bit better and spin is similar. I have never tried it in a full bed but as a main with a slick poly it’s the best I have found.
Interesting. Yeah, I've found the colored version of Velocity (we use black a lot) is slicker than natural, and that Reflex is less slick/crisp and softer than Velocity (which it's designed for).
I'll use Velocity or Nrg2 as a cross with a poly main because they seem to last the longest with most players I give it to.
I'm a full breed poly man myself. Love the spin haha
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For me personally, obviously Tourna S7T 17g hehe, but also BHB7, Head Lynx 17/18g, Head Sonic Pro Edge, Tier-one Sports Tour Status 17g and Black Knight, Lux Ace, Alu Feel.I never have tried the black color before but might give it a go in the future. Haha what are your favorite polys?
I haven’t tried any of those besides the 7 tour. When you say you get good bite is that with all shots? I’m playing tour bite mains and noticed a bit more side spin on my backhand slice but the rest of my shots I don’t notice much difference in spin compared to a smooth polyFor me personally, obviously Tourna S7T 17g hehe, but also BHB7, Head Lynx 17/18g, Head Sonic Pro Edge, Tier-one Sports Tour Status 17g and Black Knight, Lux Ace, Alu Feel.
I'm sure there are others but that's off the top of my head. I've used Tier-One Sports Tour Status 17g for like 4yrs. Now it's the S7T. I love the sided polys that have good bite, not harsh, and react well to low tension [emoji23]
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Interesting ! Have you tried hyper G in 1.20 gauge ?Kind of weird quoting myself but wanted to circle the wagons back around on this. I've played exclusively with Hyper-G the last couple of times out and now have about a dozen hours on the string. It's pretty close to notching through and breaking, but tension maintenance has been very good and playability feels relatively unchanged from when it was new. Hyper-G is a really good string for me. It has a slight bit less power than Silver 7 Tour but it also has a slight bit more grip, and that grip difference is greater the more skimming the shot it is. Comparing the 12 hour Hyper-G to the eight hour S7T, the launch angle on the Hyper-G may be just a hair higher as well.
Shows the value of doing back to back comparisons. I previously played with Hyper-G and S7T some time apart and my impressions were slightly different in comparing the two. I did end up choosing Revolution over Hyper-G before S7T won me over, so maybe it's time to try Revolution again.
For me personally, obviously Tourna S7T 17g hehe, but also BHB7, Head Lynx 17/18g, Head Sonic Pro Edge, Tier-one Sports Tour Status 17g and Black Knight, Lux Ace, Alu Feel.
I'm sure there are others but that's off the top of my head. I've used Tier-One Sports Tour Status 17g for like 4yrs. Now it's the S7T. I love the sided polys that have good bite, not harsh, and react well to low tension [emoji23]
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I’m testing out various strings at the moment that I’m liking but I played with a multi/poly for years due to tennis elbow so currently Gosen ak pro cx 16g mains with Kirschbaum max power 16g crosses is my go to setup. Head velocity 16g is the second best multi I found and use that also. I’m currently playing head velocity 16 with tour bite 16L and am finding the square profile of tour bite is not denting the soft multi as much and performing well. Tour bite 15L/ big hitter silver 16 I’m liking in my second racket so may try this setup again. I purchased a reel of 16g and 17g Kirschbaum max power to try a full bed poly setup to compare results. Planning on trying a full bed big hitter silver 16 to compare to max power or perhaps hybrid big hitter/max power for a softer stringbed than just max power. I string a full bed big hitter silver 16 for my tennis partner and he loves it. I’m not very picky when it comes to tennis strings I just don’t care for mushy and elastic string with lots of power or a high trajectory inconsistent response. I hit with plenty of power and spin just looking for consistency with my setups.
This is just my opinion, but to me it's a little more powerful, softer at the same tension as BHB7. The spin is pretty close as far as I could tell. Plus it's not an apple to apples comparison: I've only used 16g BHB7 and am currently using 17g S7T.how does BHB7 compare to silver 7 tour?
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Does silver 7 tour play better for you in a hybrid? I only bought one pack and used it in a full bed but would be open to trying it again in a hybridu should try silver 7 tour mains with big hitter silver crosses...i think it will lower the launch angle and enhance the snapback that you’re looking for. Personally, I really enjoy using signum pro poly plasma 17L crosses with silver 7 tour 17g mains
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Does silver 7 tour play better for you in a hybrid? I only bought one pack and used it in a full bed but would be open to trying it again in a hybrid
Great, next time I make a string order I will purchase another pack to try in a hybridyep better as hybrid with it as mains
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What will you use as cross ?Great, next time I make a string order I will purchase another pack to try in a hybrid
Did you try rs lyon as cross ?I’m thinking Kirshbaum max power 16g to stiffen up the stringbed and get that crisp response. I didn’t like the elastic mushy feel I got from a full bed of 7 tour. I’m not sure the accuracy of the TWU numbers but would like to try 7 tour again because of how well it did on the tension maintenance test
I haven’t tried rs lyon before because of the cost. I can get max power for half the price but I would be willing to try it out if it lasts longer and I could get a good deal on a reel of itDid you try rs lyon as cross ?
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I think some of the ball flying on him may be that the 17 gauge S7T is two grams lighter than with 1.25 Element, and that throws off his wristy timing. Anyhow, I suggested he try 16 gauge S7T, and he purchased a pack. I strung it up 1.5 pounds looser
I’m thinking Kirshbaum max power 16g to stiffen up the stringbed and get that crisp response. I didn’t like the elastic mushy feel I got from a full bed of 7 tour. I’m not sure the accuracy of the TWU numbers but would like to try 7 tour again because of how well it did on the tension maintenance test
Coming of S7T 17 after ~10 hours of play. My general impression is that it’s okay. Strung 58/56 on Blade v7 18x20.
Played relatively consistently but the feel was a bit vague and not as crisp as I’d like. Not a ton of SnapBack. Did not feel powerful (ball speed), only the launch angle was higher so I was getting more depth. Spin was good but not entirely predictable. Mains were moving out of place and not snapping back so cut out after my 5th outing. The notching looked like it was 1-2 hours away from popping.
For comparison sake I laced up trusty Alu Power 16L silver and it felt way better. Almost as much spin but the pocketing and snap on Alu is incomparable. Much higher confidence in flatter drives. But at nearly twice the cost and half the string life of S7T, its still a tough pill to swallow.
I would suggest instead of changing gauges to add 1-2g to the tip at 11-1 (via head protection tape instead of lead at first to see how he likes it) and to string 1 pound higher first.
The S7T 16g feels quite different to the 17g.
I must also add that for the first 3-4 hours I did not like S7T coming from ALU Power, however the more I hit with it, the more I discovered its potential and now I absolutely love it.
Coming of S7T 17 after ~10 hours of play. My general impression is that it’s okay. Strung 58/56 on Blade v7 18x20.
I have tried Max power 17g as a cross and never noticed much of a difference compared to the 16g perhaps a bit more spin but nothing really noticeable for me. I have always used both with multi mains and had all the spin I needed. The 16g plays more consistent maintaining tension better so that’s the gauge I’m most familiar with. I always try to prevent notching because when the string notches it starts becoming inconsistent for me. I apply a tennis product after a match to help reduce friction and clean the strings. This helps delay the notching extending the time I can go without restringing. I have tried max power rough 16 and 17g as a cross and it played terrible for me when I was using isospeed control classic mains. Stringbed was locked up almost immediately and the ball launched with low spin. I tried it up to 8 pounds lower with the same results. I use different multis now that slide better so the rough might work but for now I’m not interested in trying it out againPersonally I like a thinner cross for better spin potential. You’d be amazed the difference in spin from thinner cross (I was) and the tension loss from thinner gauge actually helps soften string bed and allow mains more freedom to snapback unlocking the true spin potential. There is also less surface area of the thinner cross touching the mains so mains can slide more easily with less friction. The thinner cross would also create notching faster (which is good) helping to promote the sliding effect of the snapback in mains. I think max power rough 18 would be your best bet playability wise.
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I had very similar results as you did with the 16g versionComing of S7T 17 after ~10 hours of play. My general impression is that it’s okay. Strung 58/56 on Blade v7 18x20.
Played relatively consistently but the feel was a bit vague and not as crisp as I’d like. Not a ton of SnapBack. Did not feel powerful (ball speed), only the launch angle was higher so I was getting more depth. Spin was good but not entirely predictable. Mains were moving out of place and not snapping back so cut out after my 5th outing. The notching looked like it was 1-2 hours away from popping.
For comparison sake I laced up trusty Alu Power 16L silver and it felt way better. Almost as much spin but the pocketing and snap on Alu is incomparable. Much higher confidence in flatter drives. But at nearly twice the cost and half the string life of S7T, its still a tough pill to swallow.
Coming of S7T 17 after ~10 hours of play. My general impression is that it’s okay. Strung 58/56 on Blade v7 18x20.
Played relatively consistently but the feel was a bit vague and not as crisp as I’d like. Not a ton of SnapBack. Did not feel powerful (ball speed), only the launch angle was higher so I was getting more depth. Spin was good but not entirely predictable. Mains were moving out of place and not snapping back so cut out after my 5th outing. The notching looked like it was 1-2 hours away from popping.
For comparison sake I laced up trusty Alu Power 16L silver and it felt way better. Almost as much spin but the pocketing and snap on Alu is incomparable. Much higher confidence in flatter drives. But at nearly twice the cost and half the string life of S7T, its still a tough pill to swallow.
I have tried Max power 17g as a cross and never noticed much of a difference compared to the 16g perhaps a bit more spin but nothing really noticeable for me. I have always used both with multi mains and had all the spin I needed. The 16g plays more consistent maintaining tension better so that’s the gauge I’m most familiar with. I always try to prevent notching because when the string notches it starts becoming inconsistent for me. I apply a tennis product after a match to help reduce friction and clean the strings. This helps delay the notching extending the time I can go without restringing. I have tried max power rough 16 and 17g as a cross and it played terrible for me when I was using isospeed control classic mains. Stringbed was locked up almost immediately and the ball launched with low spin. I tried it up to 8 pounds lower with the same results. I use different multis now that slide better so the rough might work but for now I’m not interested in trying it out again
Yeah I use string savers to keep the multi mains from breaking. They lose tension and shots start sailing long when I cut them out. I don’t have a lot of experience with gut but with poly mains they play much better for me when they aren’t notchedi dont have much experience with multis because they break way too fast for me but with poly or gut mains, notching helps improve the snapback/sliding of the mains. I also use fast fret to clean my strings so they can glide effortlessly for max snapback
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Yeah I use string savers to keep the multi mains from breaking. They lose tension and shots start sailing long when I cut them out. I don’t have a lot of experience with gut but with poly mains they play much better for me when they aren’t notched
Gosen ak pro cx 16g is my favorite multi. Holds tension for a long time, good spin, and is the closest multi to natural gut I have found. A close second would be head velocity it has all the same attributes but plays crisper with less feelwhat multi do u use? prince premier touch has gut-like feel but gut has better value because plays better and lasts longer and doesnt really cost that much more with gut/poly hybrid using a good cheap poly like SPPP as cross. I dont even bother with multis
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Wow! That's a lot of tension. I strung S7T 17 gauge at 46 pounds in the v7 18X20 and thought that was at or just beyond the highest tension I could use in that frame.