Hard Hitters vs. Spin Doctors
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kingdaddy41788
Hall of Fame
It depends who's playing who. Everyone prefers playing a different type of player. Clearly spin doctors are more effective against Fed, but that doesn't mean they're more effective overall.
lemoneatrz
Rookie
i personally play with spin and i dont find it hard to play hard hitters since you can use some of their pace but with other spin doctors, it gets you out of position but i guess it depends on how good of a hard hitter or spin doctor the other person is!
tennis_hand
Hall of Fame
agree with above.
KingOfTennis
Professional
well it depends how fast the spin is. i rekon really strong spin will be better. But who says u cant have both?
warneck
Rookie
Word. I have no problems hitting a very hard ball, even 100% flat.. And that said, I am one of those HEAVY spin doctors. Spin is your friend
ibringtheHEAT
Semi-Pro
It really depends on the level, hitting hard with a good deal of spin is more effective than either alone =]
iplaybetter
Hall of Fame
I think spin doctors play "bad" tennis, and big hitters make for real matches with rallies and quality shots instead of nasty cheep shots.
though i make spin doctors those who only use spin, not spin to allow harder hitting i could not do it flat, but guys that only have a sort high slice is what i mean
though i make spin doctors those who only use spin, not spin to allow harder hitting i could not do it flat, but guys that only have a sort high slice is what i mean
ibringtheHEAT
Semi-Pro
I have to disagree with you ^
It's not "bad" tennis, it's "different" tennis...All types of play will work if you use them effectively. If you can't produce enough power to keep up with other hard hitters, it's natural to use spin.
It's not "bad" tennis, it's "different" tennis...All types of play will work if you use them effectively. If you can't produce enough power to keep up with other hard hitters, it's natural to use spin.
iplaybetter
Hall of Fame
thats why its in quotes in my mind one who is a junkball/spindoctor is not playing the same quality as others, but i am not dis counting its effectiveness
ibringtheHEAT
Semi-Pro
kk. good input. =]
Amone
Hall of Fame
What about guys that hit rally-pace topspin, or slice, or sidespin, or short dropshots, or pinpoint lobs? Spin Doctors, ideally, should have many kinds of spin, not just slice.
Spindarella
Rookie
I really don't like how it's an either/or question. But if it is one or the other, i think hard hitters are more effective.
wyutani
Hall of Fame
yea, but the skillful yutani is appearing next week. he's the serve and volley type. next month will be baseliner yutani.
In D Zone
Hall of Fame
I think you have to both skills - each has its own advantages. When playing a game - its all about how you match against your opponent. I normally will play with spin when I am hitting from the baseline, going for an off balance shot, hitting angle shot to the corner. I use flat power shots when I am hitting the ball early - preping to attack the net; use it for passing shots and swinging volleys.
Overall I think spin doctors have the advantage against hard hitters. I found that I can keep pace with hard hitters and knows how to play defense against it (have been pretty successful ). I struggled against spin doctors because I tend to loose patience because the pace is slower compared to power hitters - I am still working on this as we speak.
I like spin because of the height and lower the percentage of error especially during long rallys.
Overall I think spin doctors have the advantage against hard hitters. I found that I can keep pace with hard hitters and knows how to play defense against it (have been pretty successful ). I struggled against spin doctors because I tend to loose patience because the pace is slower compared to power hitters - I am still working on this as we speak.
I like spin because of the height and lower the percentage of error especially during long rallys.
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Santoro071
New User
I think a hard hitter would be more effective only because with spin doctors/junkballers I find there is a lot more time to react.
In D Zone
Hall of Fame
Found this short tip from Tennis.com.
" Just clear the net".
Even at the highest levels of the game, matches are almost always decided by errors, not winners.
In other words, the player who makes the fewest mistakes usually wins. And there’s one simple way you can cut the number of errors you make nearly in half: Hit higher over the net.
Winning matches is as much about limiting your mistakes as it is about hitting powerful shots.
" Just clear the net".
Even at the highest levels of the game, matches are almost always decided by errors, not winners.
In other words, the player who makes the fewest mistakes usually wins. And there’s one simple way you can cut the number of errors you make nearly in half: Hit higher over the net.
Winning matches is as much about limiting your mistakes as it is about hitting powerful shots.
nadal is not a spin doctor.
spin doctor: is someone that plays with all types of spins/pace as their main weapon. not just topspin or slice, but mixing everything up. Like a sitting slice one shot, and a skidding slice another. Someone that just hits a heavy topspin shot is not a spin doctor.
hard hitter: is someone who relays on winners and finishing points off with their strokes. They can still beat the ball and generate tons of spin at the same time.
spin doctor: is someone that plays with all types of spins/pace as their main weapon. not just topspin or slice, but mixing everything up. Like a sitting slice one shot, and a skidding slice another. Someone that just hits a heavy topspin shot is not a spin doctor.
hard hitter: is someone who relays on winners and finishing points off with their strokes. They can still beat the ball and generate tons of spin at the same time.
Bagumbawalla
G.O.A.T.
Up to a certain level, even normally good players can be thrown off by wild spin and junk balls. These "spin artists" (to be polite) do not usually make it past the 4.0 or, at best, 4.5 level.
Part of the reason is that hard balls are not that difficult to return-- because they generally bounce to your confort zone, are fairly consistant and predictable and have enough pace so that you do not have to create your own pace from scratch.
And-- junk balls will tend to throw off a player who is not totally confident in their shot production.
But after the 4.0+ level, the spin/junk players become extremely rare. A player with good movement and confident strokes will beat them every time.
That is not to say that hard hitters should not, also, be masters of spin. You can hit hard with spin (obviously).
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Part of the reason is that hard balls are not that difficult to return-- because they generally bounce to your confort zone, are fairly consistant and predictable and have enough pace so that you do not have to create your own pace from scratch.
And-- junk balls will tend to throw off a player who is not totally confident in their shot production.
But after the 4.0+ level, the spin/junk players become extremely rare. A player with good movement and confident strokes will beat them every time.
That is not to say that hard hitters should not, also, be masters of spin. You can hit hard with spin (obviously).
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cbtennisdude
New User
I think if you can hit the ball with precison and fast, hard hitting is the way to go.
You are slightly misinformed. The RPMs Pete managed to impart onto his serve were beyond anything other pros could achieve. His groundstrokes, however, had less spin on them than quite a few players (Agassi, notably).
iplaybetter
Hall of Fame
i am referring to people who do nothing else, all of those shots at good, but part of a array not at a rally ball though
