Head Pro Tour 2.0 - Ask Us All Your Questions! (podcast now here!)
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Lol - I found out about that last week. I reckon I’d save a good few bucks if I went for this online retainer in the EU. They have a “bundle/multiple buy” deal.... but unfortunately they don’t offer matching services
Just missing the 16x19 version.
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
Understand the want for that version in this layup. I prefer the tight 18x20 pattern on this one personally
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Povl Carstensen
Legend
Yes, and "i"-technology, and powerholes, and powerridges (or what were they called?). We could go full circle. Just kidding, partially.
rafa_prestige89
Professional
This version of the Pro Tour never existed.
I know. That doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
Alexh22
Professional
So Andy Murray played using thin air all these years.
rafa_prestige89
Professional
Yes, thin air just like the H22 that never existed in the Wilson catalogue.
Alexh22
Professional
Heh. Listen to yourself. This is the kind of standard statement you get from head. I expected nothing more.
To be fair though, at least Head gave customers PT630/280 which was a retail version PT57A 18x20 which some of the pros are still using on tour.
Can Wilson do the same with the retail H22 or the H19 at least?
rafa_prestige89
Professional
And what is the kind of standard statement that we get from Wilson?
90% of their players are using imitations of Prestiges (H19) and Radicals (H22) that not even once were sold and they just paint them to convince us that they’re all using Blades and Pro Staffs.
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
Was this not what the ultra tour was supposed to be ? I mean, it sucked.... but that is what it was touted as
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stephenclown
Professional
The real H19 is something like mid 50's RA. The retail Ultra Tour was a different layup and stiffer. Same mould I am pretty sure though.
nohandedbackhand
Semi-Pro
I’m confused at your point here. I took the other guys comment to mean that they’ve never released a retail pro tour in a 16x19 pattern. I don’t think he was insinuating a 16x19 pt57a never existed (we obviously know it does). Am I way off here? Maybe I need to read further back in the thread.
stephenclown
Professional
You are completely disregarding what they actually said in the thread. The PT280/630 was never a 16x19, it was only released in 18x20, therefore wanting a 16x19 because Murray was using one isn't the same. It wouldn't be a release, just a completely new frame to the public. This is why people brought H22 / H19 into it, because like the PT57A 16x19 it was never a retail frame to start with.
I think they should release Barty's frame though because its just a 16x19 Gravity
kingnike12
Rookie
I agree. I got blisters when I use the rectangle grip compared to the square one. I just bought the tk82s pallets so hopefully that will help
Starsailor84
Rookie
Actually more like from 7 to 8,5 pt HL. I have not noticed any vibration or buzzing after trimming the grommets.
I used 18 gauge at 22/21 kg tension (at least for the clay season). I Don't want a thicker gauge in 18x20, unless it's natural gut.
burma_shave
New User
There's the current Prestige Mid for people with that particular itch. A 16x19 PT would be niche beyond niche IMO.
Where did you find those pallets?
haqq777
Legend
I don't know about kingnike12 but I have purchased mine before from TWE.
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oh dude, hi! Hi @Alexh22
can you read my posts and give me the long awaited answer?
in case if you wondering which posts, I'll remind you: in which retail can I, as a mere mortal, just walk in and purchase H19 or H22.
Once you answer this question, a few months down the line it would be fair of you to demand that other posters in this thread read your posts.
rafa_prestige89
Professional
They were dragged into the discussion because, just like the PT57A 16x19, the H22 and H19 never existed in the retail market, so a re-release of a racquet that never existed just doesn’t make any sense.
moon shot
Hall of Fame
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moon shot
Hall of Fame
So how about those graphics at 3&9. I know complaining about the decals is pretty petty but I was curious if the majority of retail 630/280 models looked like this or what.
I think all 630/280 I've seen the red portion of the decal faded to transparent over the length instead of the abrupt end as it is on the 2.0 frame.
I think all 630/280 I've seen the red portion of the decal faded to transparent over the length instead of the abrupt end as it is on the 2.0 frame.
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Alexh22
Professional
Just being sarcastic. I am fortunate enough to have MIA original trysis PT57a and wilson H22. It is criminal head and wilson don’t sell us those good sticks.
Gooner
New User
Yea didn't notice earlier, but the red decal on the inner hoop of PT 2.0 fades into a white background while the original fades transparent. Surely saved them all of 3 cents to do that
.Also that red decal on the PT 2.0 is definitely placed higher up than from the original. Does that mean the intended factory sweet spot was moved higher up as well?
I doubt that that is the reason, but a stiffer head would probably move the sweet spot up a touch.Yea didn't notice earlier, but the red decal on the inner hoop of PT 2.0 fades into a white background while the original fades transparent. Surely saved them all of 3 cents to do that
Also that red decal on the PT 2.0 is definitely placed higher up than from the original. Does that mean the intended factory sweet spot was moved higher up as well?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Because it would cost Head 3x to make them and only geeks like us on this forum would know they exist???
Ah, OK, great business model...
i got 2 from TW Europe. on one racket, there are tiny particles under the paint. like they forgot to clean out the debris before applying the final coat. also the black paint at the top starts from the 12th hole on one side and ends on the 13th hole on the other side. so it's a little lopsided. the other racket looks fine, 12th hole to 12th hole. i do understand the racket is being offered at lower price, but just doesn't leave a good impression on their quality control. haven't had a chance to take them out to court, due to extended lock-down in my area, but bouncing the ball gives off a solid, muted feel.
mikeeeee
Professional
I would imagine the sales will be pretty good considering it's a racquet targeted at a niche group of tennis snobs like us. If the sales warrant more versions, here's what I would like:
-16x19
-no full caps
-if still full caps then lighter weight for more customization (leather).
As you can tell, I would like it to be more head light
-16x19
-no full caps
-if still full caps then lighter weight for more customization (leather).
As you can tell, I would like it to be more head light
Alexh22
Professional
Same. For a number of years, I am also after the 16 19 PT but the current price prohibits my acquisition. Very unlikely head will deliver despite the good sale figure of the 18 20 PT2.0. It is sad.
Grieeegoorr
Semi-Pro
When they are not on the frame
Sharp knife. Done it
So these fit the 2.0? And what is the handle shape like with these. wilsons? Easy to install? How? Sorry many questionsI don't know about kingnike12 but I have purchased mine before from TWE.
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nohandedbackhand
Semi-Pro
Searching on here or just googling it would be quicker than waiting for answers but... yes all tk82 and tk82s pallets you can buy will fit Head racquet hairpins. Tk82s shape more square (like Wilson) than rectangular tk82. Search YouTube for instructions on swapping pallets. Pretty easy.
haqq777
Legend
@morten no worries. I believe @nohandedbackhand answered all your questions above - very simple swap process. TK82 are rectangular, TK82S more square (Wilson shape). Easily swappable with PT 2.0.
- very simple swap process. TK82 are rectangular, TK82S more square (Wilson shape). Easily swappable with PT 2.0.PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
Think I've found "the racquet." Honestly wasn't expecting the Head Protro (yes, that's what I'm calling the PT 2.0; it's a retro but IMO an improvement on the OG) to be so nice. Time to sell some of my racquets that I don't use much anymore (e.g. pristine Max 200g Pro) and pick up a few more of these amazing sticks.
HEAD Tinkerer
New User
Think the 2.0 is a top contender for racquet of the year and this is saying a lot. HEAD has had the strongest offerings this year and I am positive the Radical line will be exceptional.
PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
Next to playing really well, a big reason I like the new PT is the absence of marketing racquet tech BS. It's just good 'ol graphite composite frame with none of that graphene 360+ spiralfiber nonsense on the paintjob.
Lol - probably true. But that is probably because people will start asking serious questions about why the lack of twaron if they had a serious marketing for the PT2.0... I think..
PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
Lol - probably true. But that is probably because people will start asking serious questions about why the lack of twaron if they had a serious marketing for the PT2.0... I think..
LOL. I do think Twaron(Kevlar, aramid fiber) and fiberglass are legit materials that make a difference in racquets when used in significant amounts. It's just the nebulous "tech" used purely for marketing that I don't like. It's on par with fake air intakes on sports cars, another one of my pet peeves.
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Wanted to provide an update on my initial review which was a bit critical. After letting the racquet sit in the heat for a while to reduce the factory tension, I went out to hit and play points with a local 5.0. Definitely the racquet transforms on fast swings and higher level play. It lost its boardy feel I initially reported because the ball speed was much higher or because the strings loosened up or likely both. As another poster said this racquet demands you swing fast, and he's right. When you do the stick does shine when playing at a higher level with heavy ball generation, solid accuracy, and decent feel. Serves had much more pop also from the additional stiffness. So in general if you are playing high level tennis this stick works well, but if just hitting around casually pull something else out because this will dissapoint.
Overall, I'm much happier with it even though its different than what I was initially expecting/hoping (113B like).... Solid stick and now my main go-to....
Overall, I'm much happier with it even though its different than what I was initially expecting/hoping (113B like).... Solid stick and now my main go-to....
PrinceYonex
Semi-Pro
How are people stringing the PT2? I’ve put vs gut 1.3 / yptp 1.2 at 50/47. Very comfortable but feels maybe like it’s a bit too loose.
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