French Open to allow fans in at 50-60 percent capacity
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NonP
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I don't think it's that crazy, actually. We've yet to see a big spike from the BLM protests which suggests that outdoor activities may not be so dangerous even in packed crowds as long as everyone wears a mask. Granted the RG crowd will likely be older which should give anyone some pause, but remember that 6 feet is less a rigid scientific rule than a general guideline and being a seat apart from each other may be enough for an event which probably won't be filled to 50% capacity most of the time to begin with.
P.S. There should be no crowd on rainy days (read: indoor settings). That I agree with.
P.S. There should be no crowd on rainy days (read: indoor settings). That I agree with.
Bartelby
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I love the way that you think things can be changed both with a click of the fingers and in order to suit the American market.
Bartelby
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Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
So you do agree that it is perfectly safe to play in Paris right now. Let players from around the world gather in Paris immediately and start practicing.
What else do these players have to do right now? They have had months to keep in physical shape.
Officials snapped their fingers and rescheduled without even consulting the U.S. Open.Reckless and inconsiderate!
Defending U.S. Open Rafa is not happy about playing back to back in September. Not happy about it at all. Threatening to skip.
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Genious at Work
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Not necessarily if you alternate the seats, depending on the distance between rows. It doesn't matter though, this is a mess. If somebody in the public needs to go to the can, will they evacuate half stadium to open a corridor?
Mark-Touch
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That is not a trivial question!
They will obviously be controlling bowel/bladder movements along with many other things.
But yes, the entire entry/departure ritual will be incredibly complicated IF they want to keep to the 'safe distancing'
rationale.
Exactly how does someone in the middle of a row get up and go to the bathroom in an 'emergency' situation?
Exactly how do people take their seats? People don't arrive at the same time.
Please explain a logical procedure?
It's an absolute strategic nightmare!
For as you pass by someone you could be transmitting/infecting.
King No1e
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It seems like he will. Polls are forecasting a landslide for Democrats.
Gary Duane
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In fact, public restrooms are a disaster. Theoretically men can urinate without touch anything but their own clothes and bodies, so if you have doorways without doors and urinals without something to flush, you dodge that potential bullet. I would think it is an absolute nightmare for women. I can't imagine sitting down on a "throne". The unpleasant consequences just boggle my mind.That is not a trivial question!
They will obviously be controlling bowel/bladder movements along with many other things.
But yes, the entire entry/departure ritual will be incredibly complicated IF they want to keep to the 'safe distancing'
rationale.
Exactly how does someone in the middle of a row get up and go to the bathroom in an 'emergency' situation?
Exactly how do people take their seats? People don't arrive at the same time.
Please explain a logical procedure?
It's an absolute strategic nightmare!
For as you pass by someone you could be transmitting/infecting.
Have you seen what most people do with their masks? It's insane.
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Tennease
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Spain's coronavirus antibodies study adds evidence against herd immunity | CNN
Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that a so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported on Monday.
www.cnn.com
Herd immunity unachievable.
Is Paris safe?
French bus driver dies after 'barbaric' attack by passengers who refused to wear face masks
The widow of a French bus driver who was beaten to death after he asked four passengers to wear face masks aboard his vehicle calls for "exemplary punishment" for her husband's killers.
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Mark-Touch
Legend
Yes, which is not a bad thing really.
Since most people who do get infected show mild symptoms, like the cold or flu.
The world will keep turning.
The sun will still shine.
People will still play tennis.
But poor Bill and Fauci won't be able to cash in and get even richer.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
You cashed in your chips a long time ago.
But poor Bill and Fauci won't be able to cash in and get even richer.
Bartelby
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Strangely enough, despite Spain being quite afflicted by the virus they've found only 5% of the population carry antibodies.
Dedans Penthouse
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Hitman
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Nothing quite like Bullzilla back in the day though, who would make Nadal match threads and be the only one in them and quoting and answering himself for about 30 minutes.
Bartelby
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Aussie Darcy actually researches questions, so it's unsurprising that he should make his own enquiries.
Dedans Penthouse
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Bartelby said:
. . speaking for yourself?.......lmfao!!!
Aussie Darcy
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Figured instead of waiting for someone to answer I’d just do the research myself and post it, might have looked a little silly but I have a bunch of time on my hands thanks to Covid so I did my research.
Bartelby
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I Am Finnish
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Bad idea imo no fans would be better
Genious at Work
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If you pa.s.s. ga.s.s., does the walrus get transmitted, or just annoyed?That is not a trivial question!
They will obviously be controlling bowel/bladder movements along with many other things.
But yes, the entire entry/departure ritual will be incredibly complicated IF they want to keep to the 'safe distancing'
rationale.
Exactly how does someone in the middle of a row get up and go to the bathroom in an 'emergency' situation?
Exactly how do people take their seats? People don't arrive at the same time.
Please explain a logical procedure?
It's an absolute strategic nightmare!
For as you pass by someone you could be transmitting/infecting.
The morale of the history is to not take an elevator with @sureshs basically.
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Dedans Penthouse
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donquijote
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They might regret this calculation when Suresh enters the stadium.
donquijote
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You should never share an elevator with Suresh for two reasons actually. 1st one been said, second one is related to gravyti. IYKWIM
Edit (without an edit): There is a third one too which is related volume.
Bartelby
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You overuse the word 'bloviating', which I note here is an Americanism.
We would more simply describe your writing as rodomontade upon rodomontade.
And your writing does indeed give "the impression of an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea'.
We would more simply describe your writing as rodomontade upon rodomontade.
And your writing does indeed give "the impression of an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea'.
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hoodjem
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Can you say heart attack?!.
MichaelNadal
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I wish I could explain how good their dirty rice, fries and chicken tenders are to you
Blade0324
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The notion of having any fans at the French open is stupid and irresponsible. Did we not learn this from the mess that Djoker created with his little failure in Serbia and Croatia. The balance of the 2020 season should be scrapped and not put the players and their teams at risk as well as the fans.
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But the players won't be having a party or playing basketball, and they won't be signing autographs either I'd say.
Beckerserve
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I cannot see tennis happening this year. Even Australia looks very dubious. Countries are putting lockdowns back in place. Tennis will be impossible to manage. US and French opens are being delusional.
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What about the NBA? You think that will happen? Athletes mix with each other a hundred times more in the NBA....
Or are you only talking about the travel aspect?
Beckerserve
Legend
Travel aspect. Moving from country to country i just cannot see it being done with the restrictions there will be. How will players train etc if quarantined. It will be farcical.
Nadal certainly would be wise to join Federer and wrap this season up now. He is bound to at least match Federer Slam wise as he is young enough to at worse win one more French. He probably has another Us Open in him as well so for him writing off this year would not be an issue. Djokovic has a bigger dilemna as he is still a fair way behind so he may be tempted to play but i think that would be a mistake.
Players lower down the rankings need the money. But if these events go ahead and then there is spikes in infections tennis could be set back 2 years. Just seems sensible to call the season off and lets hope by January things are better and there is a vaccine.
Dedans Penthouse
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. . Hardly. . You bloviate. . Just like you overreact. . : )
. . No, I am precise in my verbiage.
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Genious at Work
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The question is, how good would you be at small talk with your face 2 inches away from Sureshs as the elevator cable snaps are you are plummeting down right after he has ripped a good one? Talk about aardvark.You should never share an elevator with Suresh for two reasons actually. 1st one been said, second one is related to gravyti. IYKWIM
Edit (without an edit): There is a third one too which is related volume.
Bartelby
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Third Serve
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Oh boy...
hoodjem
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I grew up in the southern US so being very familiar with fried foods, I am sure these are very tasty.I wish I could explain how good their dirty rice, fries and chicken tenders are to you
But after a while one's arteries yell: "Enough! We're dying here."
(Maybe the rice is almost healthy.?)
a10best
Hall of Fame
Europe has been back forth on one to two meters distancing.
You do realize Europe and elsewhere do need to follow CDC (an American agency) guidelines.
Why would France or the EU follow the US? The US has the most cases and by far the most deaths and was out of control according to news reports.
Although, France has more deaths per million than the U.S., so it's worth looking into.
The FO does need to ban the cheering of "ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, bahhhh, Ole !!!!!" this year.
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Meles
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Its a meter in large parts of the world.
Meles
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They're losing their behinds with all the spending and well they want to show off the new covid dome
Meles
Bionic Poster
Thank you for all the details.
Meles
Bionic Poster
USA has a fair amount of political correctness and the governor of New York is going to be conservative after making the mistake of not shutting down quickly enough in March.. Add in that you can be sued by someone for spreading covid in the USA and the $ say they will try to maximize TV money without many fans.
Meles
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They probably have projections, but even I am a bit aghast at the selling of the seats months ahead of time. If things get worse they will really be up the creek trying to put the genie back in the bottle.
USA is much, much worse outlook because of its much more temperate climate and heavy use of air conditioning during the heat of the summer. Let's hope France doesn't have a mini-2nd wave of their own.
Meles
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Deaths per mil
2 Belgium 843
4 UK 656
5 Spain 617
6 Italy 577
7 Sweden 543
8 France 459
9 USA 407
10 Netherlands 358
11 Ireland 352
Brazil not far behind and far, far from done. Australia is smart to be on guard because its now winter and covid could get loose. Kudos to New Zealand. Look at South America and that is where you guys could be right now without some luck and proper policy.
Might as well take a look at France which I've ignored during this crisis because their data was so erratic (used Belgium/Netherlands as proxy). I've been watching the uptick very closely in the US and my own county today required masks at all businesses starting at 6 pm (we'd been the best metro area in the state until the last few weeks.) The 7 day average on deaths per day is 15 which is about like 75 deaths per day in USA. The new cases are staying flat which is really good news. I'd say they were rising slightly in June, but heading downwards so far in July. Sadly they're testing data is too erratic (updated perhaps weekly now) for me to easily see their positive test rate. Well at least they're not completely out of their mind.
Meles
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Actually New York doesn't count all the numbers (which is why their data looks more consistent which is good) and I'm pretty sure they only count covid deaths with more absolute confirmation. Daily cases now on a slight rise, but not spiking upwards though its probably just a matter of time. France is worse and I can't comment because I've completely ignored their data because its so erratic.
Mark-Touch
Legend
What's wrong with these two pictures?Deaths per mil
9 USA 407
Might as well take a look at France which I've ignored during this crisis because their data was so erratic (used Belgium/Netherlands as proxy). I've been watching the uptick very closely in the US and my own county today required masks at all businesses starting at 6 pm (we'd been the best metro area in the state until the last few weeks.) The 7 day average on deaths per day is 15 which is about like 75 deaths per day in USA. The new cases are staying flat which is really good news. I'd say they were rising slightly in June, but heading downwards so far in July. Sadly they're testing data is too erratic (updated perhaps weekly now) for me to easily see their positive test rate. Well at least they're not completely out of their mind.
US cases per day
US deaths per day
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