Ask this guy from first video. He is a decent player. You can see here.What advantage does a tense muscle bring you.
Ask this guy from first video. He is a decent player. You can see here.What advantage does a tense muscle bring you.
Why do you think that when we use muscles we are tense ? Are you tense when you walk or run ?What advantage does a tense muscle bring you.
Are you confusing power with strength? Strength is about applying maximal force against the load. Power is about exerting a force in as short a time as possible. Explosiveness. This applies to sprinting, jumping, swinging implements, throwing implements, etc.Tennis is not baseball. Tennis is not about power. It is more about control. I understand that you recommend to throw a racket at the ball. Post here video so that we could see how it works.
Maybe you dont know but I graduated in theoretical physics and it would be impossible if I didnt know the difference between power and force. I use physics in tennis and it is one of the reasons why I won so many tournaments. 25 won tournaments on national and international level and 10 finals during last 4 years. It is not bad for a weak person with injured right wrist.@travlerajm
Are you confusing power with strength? Strength is about applying maximal force against the load. Power is about exerting a force in as short a time as possible. Explosiveness. This applies to sprinting, jumping, swinging implements, throwing implements, etc.
While not quite as high as Olympic weightlifting, world-class sprinting, boxing and American football, the power requirements for elite level tennis is still quite high. Pretty close to the power requirements needed for baseball. The strength requirement for tennis is moderate. Perhaps a bit lower then required for baseball.
Both baseball (batting) and tennis require a very high level of hand-eye coordination. The endurance requirements for tennis are much higher than it is for baseball.
Like tennis, baseball fielding, throwing and pitching requires a very high level of control. Control is not unique to tennis.
Decent player. But, seriously, he really needs to relax. He appears to be trying way too hard. Seems to think hitting in this manner is what intensity is all about. Federer appears to be much more relaxed when he's hitting.Ask this guy from first video. He is a decent player. You can see here.
Is it a good two handed backhand ? Is it relaxed ?-a good example of this phenomenon is watching a natural 1Hander try to hit a 2HBH!!
-it not only looks forced, tight, and choppy, but the ball goes nowhere/short/weak
-a good 2hbh is smooth and relaxed
@Gregory Diamond ???Maybe you dont know but I graduated in theoretical physics and it would be impossible if I didnt know the difference between power and force. I use physics in tennis and it is one of the reasons why I won so many tournaments. 25 won tournaments on national and international level and 10 finals during last 4 years. It is not bad for a weak person with injured right wrist.
Power is a measure of the rate at which energy is transferred.@Gregory Diamond ???
Not quite sure that physicists define power quite same way that exercise physiologist or human performance experts do.
Pretty decent but it looks a bit tight and forced. Relax, man.Is it a good two handed backhand ? Is it relaxed ?
Is it a good two handed backhand ? Is it relaxed ?
Pretty decent but it looks a bit tight and forced. Relax, man.
That's a physics definition. Exercise physiology uses a somewhat different definition for power. Related, but not the same. Power is synonymous with "speed strength" for exercise experts. It's primarily about how quickly muscles move.Power is a measure of the rate at which energy is transferred.
I cant remember even one case that in tournaments my opponent had advantage on the backhand side. Probably they were too relaxed.-yup, i tought so too
- i know from reading and asking others, that the tighter you grip the handle, the worst it gets
Have you ever heard a player say after a match - "I was too tight" while describing why they lost or had a bad patch of play. Or Djokovic yelling at himself -"Pusti ruku!" (let go of your hand!) during a match? Being relaxed in sports doesn't mean "don't contract your muscles". It means "let the body do what it has learned to do".Why do you think that when we use muscles we are tense ? Are you tense when you walk or run ?
Maybe somebody from the forum members could show us his loose two handed backhand. I am really curious. Probabaly you all talk about something you dont understand.-yup, i tought so too
- i know from reading and asking others, that the tighter you grip the handle, the worst it gets
Or perhaps they were "jumping like a GOAT".I cant remember even one case that in tournaments my opponent had advantage on the backhand side. Probably they were too relaxed.
I cant remember even one case that in tournaments my opponent had advantage on the backhand side. Probably they were too relaxed.
So which muscles should work when you hit forehand ? At least we established that some muscles should work during that stroke.Have you ever heard a player say after a match - "I was too tight" while describing why they lost or had a bad patch of play. Or Djokovic yelling at himself -"Pusti ruku!" (let go of your hand!) during a match? Being relaxed in sports doesn't mean "don't contract your muscles". It means "let the body do what it has learned to do".
Yes. And here you can see how this "tight" backhand works in a real match against International Champion of Poland in +55 category.-is that you on the video??
Do you get a royalty every time you post this?Yes. And here you can see how this "tight" backhand works in a real match against International Champion of Poland in +55 category.
You all talk all the time about looseness so I try to show how well tight backhand works. Reading your posts somebody could think that it is impossible.Do you get a royalty every time you post this?
I also try to play like Gregory Diamond. I even copied his technique.Some days are so bleak for me that I feel like giving up and start playing like Greg Diamond.
Thankfully therapy and medication help with these terrible thoughts...
Have you coerced Gregory into playing in your videos? We all know its him but you can still do the right thing and let him loose on these boards again. These are clearly GD's theories that you have plagiarised.I also try to play like Gregory Diamond. I even copied his technique.
I believe that almost everyone here knows that various muscles contract and relax during the process of hitting a forehand (or any other stroke). However it is employing optimal muscle tension and relaxation for producing a desired result is what relaxed intensity is all about.So which muscles should work when you hit forehand ? At least we established that some muscles should work during that stroke.
Maybe somebody from the forum members could show us his loose two handed backhand. I am really curious. Probabaly you all talk about something you dont understand.
Great video - Milan is a great player and coach. Nice pick.-soo, why you getting defensive??
-you know you have a UGLY backhand!!, why not try to improve it!!,
-instead you are here trying to pick verbal fights with people offering their advise and input from their own experience
-btw, here are some GOOD 2hbhs,,
-none of these players have the "PERFECT technique" (sarcasm), that the "International Champion of Poland in +55 category" has, but their backhands are text-book and not hip-shots like yours
-you see how easy i can throw mud, just like you!! idiot
All muscles that need to work. But ideally, you don't think about contracting muscles, it simply happens. The more "relaxed" or "loose" you are, the more you let trained muscle memory take over.So which muscles should work when you hit forehand ? At least we established that some muscles should work during that stroke.
This guy in video cant play two handed backhand. If he could he would show us. I have been waiting for hours for any of you to show me video with your loose strokes . It would be the best if it was recording of real match. I begin to suspect that most of you cant play tennis even at average level.-soo, why you getting defensive??
-you know you have a UGLY backhand!!, why not try to improve it!!,
-instead you are here trying to pick verbal fights with people offering their advise and input from their own experience
-btw, here are some GOOD 2hbhs,,
-none of these players have the "PERFECT technique" (sarcasm), that the "International Champion of Poland in +55 category" has, but their backhands are text-book and not hip-shots like yours
-you see how easy i can throw mud, just like you!! idiot
So show us video with your relaxed strokes.All muscles that need to work. But ideally, you don't think about contracting muscles, it simply happens. The more "relaxed" or "loose" you are, the more you let trained muscle memory take over.
This is more discussion about linguistics, I think. It's not relaxed as in relaxing in the pool with a drink, but not being tight, both in the mind and the body.
There are several videos of me playing in Jolly's thread. Go look for yourself. I'm far from being relaxed enough, I admit. But my game has nothing to do with this discussion whatsoever.So show us video with your relaxed strokes.
Could you post here link to this thread ? I am not hostile. I am just curious. As you see I dont believe in that "looseness" and the best way to convince me is to show how well it works at the amateur level.There are several videos of me playing in Jolly's thread. Go look for yourself. I'm far from being relaxed enough, I admit. But my game has nothing to do with this discussion whatsoever.
Anyway, why are you so hostile? Relax, man.
There's no tennis played outside of Polish +55 category! Maybe some poor attempts here and there...This guy in video cant play two handed backhand. If he could he would show us. I have been waiting for hours for any of you to show me video with your loose strokes . It would be the best if it was recording of real match. I begin to suspect that most of you cant play tennis even at average level.
I am his great fan. Somebody even noticed that Gregory Diamond posted his videos from my YouTube account. I cant explain how it is possible. Maybe he is a hacker. I have never met him personally though many times we played in the same tournaments in the same category. We have never played against each other.Have you coerced Gregory into playing in your videos? We all know its him but you can still do the right thing and let him loose on these boards again. These are clearly GD's theories that you have plagiarised.
Here I am earlier in the year hitting some very relaxed volleys. you can't tell from this angle but my eyes are actually closed. I am so relaxed I am taking a nap while doing this:So show us video with your relaxed strokes.
I only said that it was pathetic not to show two handed backhand in the lesson about two handed backhand.There's no tennis played outside of Polish +55 category! Maybe some poor attempts here and there...
If you go through the guy's channel you find multiple practice videos with pros he recorded, where he hits ton of BHs. So if anything was pathetic in this thread...I only said that it was pathetic not to show two handed backhand in the lesson about two handed backhand.
Jolly's 'post yourself playing good thread'. It's in this section of the forum. But there are many better examples than my game in that same thread. I'm not loose enough.Could you post here link to this thread ? I am not hostile. I am just curious. As you see I dont believe in that "looseness" and the best way to convince me is to show how well it works at the amateur level.
I have just watched his rally with Jaryd. He is a good player but I dont like his backhand. It is even more stiff than backhand of Djokovic.If you go through the guy's channel you find multiple practice videos with pros he recorded, where he hits ton of BHs. So if anything was pathetic in this thread...
I have met Gregory Diamond many times. He consults with me whenever he needs his physics theories reviewed, amended or rectified.I am his great fan. Somebody even noticed that Gregory Diamond posted his videos from my YouTube account. I cant explain how it is possible. Maybe he is a hacker. I have never met him personally though many times we played in the same tournaments in the same category. We have never played against each other.
Gregory Diamond proved that most elements of so called "modern" technique usually didnt work in amateur tennis and in older categories. We all know that.I have met Gregory Diamond many times. He consults with me whenever he needs his physics theories reviewed, amended or rectified.
He has spoken of you. He says that your tight, high-intensity physics kung fu is no match for his superior stop-jumping-like-a-goat physics style.
None of them would have any chance against me. They move like really old people. Both cant play topspin backhand.These guys have proper strokes, are older than you and would totally kick your ass
I liked thisIt's difficult to talk/write about tennis form without causing some confusion simply because terms and phrases are not commonly defined/trained. Here goes:
To stay "relaxed" when hitting a forehand really does just mean "use the appropriate muscles at the appropriate time without unnecessary tension elsewhere in your body. Train well enough that this becomes automatic." JMO.
So be relaxed, except for flexing the muscles needed, and at the correct instant. There, laugh, I'm done.
And here there is his video about "loose wrist". He says the same what the guy in the first video in this thread. At the beginning the grip cant be completely loose and before the contact with the ball it should be tightened to stabilize the racket. Of course you shouldnt block the movement of the head of the racket in the vertical direction. If you tighten the grip before the contact of the ball with the strings your grip will stay tightened at least to the moment when the head of the racket rises to the level of your left shoulder. As you see it is not throwing the racket at the ball. Nobody proposes tightening all muscles during the stroke.If you go through the guy's channel you find multiple practice videos with pros he recorded, where he hits ton of BHs. So if anything was pathetic in this thread...