Could Federer have been DQ‘d here? Not saying should(obviously not) But within the rules could he have been? Lets say the kid was seriously hurt or had a pre existing condition and had to be taken away.
There is no rule saying a player who hits somebody MUST be disqualified
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jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
3rd vid was the Djokovic incident but the YouTuber deleted the video. I updated the post with a new video
RVAtennisaddict
Professional
Until a shard hit some someone in the eye.
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
"dangerously" with "negligent disregard of the consequences" what a treacherous misleading politically incorrect troll
There is more danger in the inbreeding in these elected officials that hide perversion behind closed doors than the
honest mild actions of tennis players. In all the sports of the world tennis has some of the least callous of all sports.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
I've heard people argue that breaking racquets can send shrapnel flying at high speeds and potentially blind someone
Candide
Hall of Fame
Sure, but the probability is much lower. Everything in nature has a certain probability attached to it. Hitting a ball without even looking where you're hitting it, especially towards the back where there are people, has a higher probability of something bad happening.
Candide
Hall of Fame
poor little filled cliché ewe
Consider syntax, Voltaire.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
I mean, it's a judgement call so he could have been disqualified but since the ballkid just shrugged it off it was unlikely to happen
I guess as long as the rule is applied to the spirit of the law and not the letter of the law then it should work
Candide
Hall of Fame
There's a problem with your sample size.
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
There is so much sense and reality in your post, it still wont make a difference to the ladyboys fed on fear porn and propaganda.
Plenty of incidents from older women getting stung with 200+ km hr serves straight at their vitals while calling the centre line
and just shrugging it off pleasing the crowd but now these Candida girls bleat murder for trivial nonsense.
AceSalvo
Legend
Strike 1:
Strike 2:
Strike 3: No there is none. But you're OUT.
Strike 2:
Strike 3: No there is none. But you're OUT.
Candide
Hall of Fame
Was referring to your claim that sending one player off in a team sport isn't a big deal. Silly claim.
jon70
Semi-Pro
I don't think most players deserve to lose matches based on these incidents, but if it's hit recklessly and it strikes someone, there's nowhere for the officials to go.
I'd like to see my anger wall idea implemented. A big foam wall a player can smash a racquet into. The racquet then goes to charity. Is that any stupider than watching the winner of a match have a personal conversation with someone on Skype?
I'd like to see my anger wall idea implemented. A big foam wall a player can smash a racquet into. The racquet then goes to charity. Is that any stupider than watching the winner of a match have a personal conversation with someone on Skype?
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Such bad luck for Djokovic here though. If it had been a second serve, he wouldn't even have a ball in his pocket to toss. If she held her gaze for half a second longer, she would have seen and avoided it. If he hit the ball at a slightly different angle it wouldn't have hit her, or hit her in a way less sensitive spot. This is pretty much the worst thing that could have happened
Candide
Hall of Fame
Context is King.
“Reality is not a function of the event as event, but of the relationship of that event to past, and future, events.”
― Robert Penn Warren
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
Sorry Candida, keep bleating cliche efforts keeps enforcing how frail ewe are
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
There's a problem with your book of famous quotations. It doesn't include any tennis-related ones.
AceSalvo
Legend
Yes, which means the umpire did his job just fine. OP is just searching for lost straws.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
It all depends on the sport concerned, and you were not referring to soccer only at the point. You are the one who is silly.
My point in reply to your initial comment was that you can't compare tennis to a team sport, so that was your initial error.
My point in reply to your initial comment was that you can't compare tennis to a team sport, so that was your initial error.
Hey, some people are into that...Abuse of balls...
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
OP doesn't disagree with the disqualification though
Now we just need a Karen for Nadal.Behold, the Federer fan answer to that "1 more" lady...
Tennis_Hands
Banned
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
Yes just fine according to the controlled narrative. An audience already paid their subs to watch this event,
why let the show go on but promote that any human mistake is a crime especially by a dissident of the crATP
It has been the agenda all along to make any human mistake a big story of fear to automate our future.
Even driving is to be replaced by autonomous transport and smart cities for the ladyboys they are priming.
However officials in every position in charge commit murder yet bleaters of Kardashian news couldnt care less.
I said earlier this would not happen if NextGen bots called the shots but imagine when Sophia also calls them
for our everyday drones policing our vitals for daily jogging in the middle of nowhere alone.
This is already happening in the UK and other parts of the world without Ai atm but faceless drone operators.
Human error is just an excuse to create only shemales first and dystopia for shemales to follow.
why let the show go on but promote that any human mistake is a crime especially by a dissident of the crATP
It has been the agenda all along to make any human mistake a big story of fear to automate our future.
Even driving is to be replaced by autonomous transport and smart cities for the ladyboys they are priming.
However officials in every position in charge commit murder yet bleaters of Kardashian news couldnt care less.
I said earlier this would not happen if NextGen bots called the shots but imagine when Sophia also calls them
for our everyday drones policing our vitals for daily jogging in the middle of nowhere alone.
This is already happening in the UK and other parts of the world without Ai atm but faceless drone operators.
Human error is just an excuse to create only shemales first and dystopia for shemales to follow.
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Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
It is a pity you didn't keep reading after item S and continue to item T on page 47.
It says:
Not really surprising you'd omit to mention this section since it undermines your entire view of the penalties available to officials.
It says:
Not really surprising you'd omit to mention this section since it undermines your entire view of the penalties available to officials.
Not sure I completely agree, as someone else here posted a Djokovic interview where a reporter asked him about anger issues on court and it was only a matter of time before it caught up with him. Heck, a few points before he hit the lady, he slammed a ball into the side extremely hard, had he been just a bit less accurate with that, he could have hit the camera guy as James Blake pointed out. So it's not really about luck or bad luck or whatever, it's about Djokovic learning to control his anger better and learning that you cannot slam balls anywhere when it's not in play, except when you're looping signed balls out to the crowd.
Candide
Hall of Fame
Context isn't part of tennis? If you say so.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
I've read item T, but so what? The rule states that the matter must be 'egregious' and, no, Jackie Chiles did not write the rule.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Candide
Hall of Fame
It's a good thing he never took up archery.
Raiden
Hall of Fame
This was a succesful handover of the ball from Federer. Djoker tried the same thing but missed the ballboy by a mile.
And if Djoker had aimed better and somehow hit the throat of the actual ball boy, then the umpire/referee may have indeed acted differently... because then the matter of the ballboy failing to catch it comes into consideration.
It's unspoken but it matters who you hit.
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tenisdecente
Hall of Fame
And all the guilt is on the shoulders of the guy who started this sheetshow... he created this so whatever
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
"Omit to mention"? I literally said this in the OP:
The point is, defaulting the player is an option, but not the only option like many believe
woodrow1029
Hall of Fame
It actually has not always been a judgment call. It used to be a rule. Around 1997 or 1998 it changed to a judgment call and I believe the first time it was tested was at the us Open when Natasha Zvereva hit a ballkids with a ball or a racket at the us Open... and no default was issued because it was not very hard and the ballkid was laughing and not injured...
Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
You failed to include it in your quoted sections. Given how relevant it is to an informed view it was surely a deliberate omission to sway the discussion one way.
That is a better point about it.
That is a better point about it.
woodrow1029
Hall of Fame
In this situation, it was the only option realistically, not by rule, but there was no other option in this case. Anything less would have been wrong in other words.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Interesting. Good change in the right direction then. Zero tolerance rules don't make any sense anywhere because nothing is black and white
woodrow1029
Hall of Fame
Did he have a code violation before that? If she wasn’t injured it would only be a warning if he didn’t have any codes previously
Yes lets rule to the spirit of the law not the letter of the law
tenisdecente
Hall of Fame
I dont think this deserve a default since 1. Roger sent the ball exactly where the ball boy was but for some reason the kid was distracted or maybe he needs to focus in the net to pick up the balls and 2. it definitely was not a show of frustration like Djokovic in this situation
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
And if it is a judgement call there is always an alternative, and that was to give him the benefit of the doubt and classify the act as a lesser offence.
tenisdecente
Hall of Fame
He got a warning when he slammed a ball in a wall a few points before the infamous incident
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