Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
True but I just think it’s only fair Thiem is in Rafa half this time. Compared to last few years.No way you play Ludo you many times get 6 in consecutive attempts so it's all luck and possible
True but I just think it’s only fair Thiem is in Rafa half this time. Compared to last few years.No way you play Ludo you many times get 6 in consecutive attempts so it's all luck and possible
Yeah uh that’s not how odds work though. 3 times in a row doesn’t mean it’s not 50/50 still. If Tim had ever actually been close to beating Nadal in any round on the mud at RG maybe I’d buy into some conspiracy.
They do actually. The odds of Thiem being drawn opposite of Nadal 3 times in a row at the FO is ~12%.
Not conspiracy theory territory but not very likely either.
Same way you;re not likely to get the same side of the coin 3 times in a row when you flip it.
Sounds like his odds to beat Rafa at RG in any round as well.
Don't get me wrong, I think Nadal will win FO regardless but I would prefer not to see the scenario from last year repeating. Two semifinalists killing each other so Nadal can roll out of bed in the final and win with his C game.
Thiem improved since then.Didn't Nadal bagel Tim the time they actually played in the SF though?
Thiem improved since then.
Nadal is also not exactly at his best. And he is also 34 years old. Thiem has a clear age advantage.After trying to watch him put away Zverev and imagining him trying to beat RAFA at RG...
Nadal is also not exactly at his best. And he is also 34 years old. Thiem has a clear age advantage.
Seems like a few people have short memories. While Rafa has swept all the clay tune ups several times, he's also had years where he lost several tune ups, but still won RG:
2011: Lost Madrid and Rome to Djokovic
2012: Lost MC and Rome to Djokovic, lost to Verdasco in Madrid
2013: Lost MC to Djokovic
2014: Lost MC to Ferrer, lost Barcelona to Almagro, lost Rome to Djokovic
2016: Lost Madrid to Murray and Rome to Djokovic
2017: Lost Rome to Thiem
2018: Lost Madrid to Thiem
2019: Lost MC to Fabio, lost to Thiem in Barcelona and lost to Tsitsipas in Madrid
He did in 2014 as well but got lucky with Nishikori retiringBut Rafa got important match play leading up to RG. Not so this year. And other than 2014, he had other titles on clay heading into RG.
He did in 2014 as well but got lucky with Nishikori retiring
2016 loss rg to joker.Seems like a few people have short memories. While Rafa has swept all the clay tune ups several times, he's also had years where he lost several tune ups, but still won RG:
2011: Lost Madrid and Rome to Djokovic
2012: Lost MC and Rome to Djokovic, lost to Verdasco in Madrid
2013: Lost MC to Djokovic
2014: Lost MC to Ferrer, lost Barcelona to Almagro, lost Rome to Djokovic
2016: Lost Madrid to Murray and Rome to Djokovic
2017: Lost Rome to Thiem
2018: Lost Madrid to Thiem
2019: Lost MC to Fabio, lost to Thiem in Barcelona and lost to Tsitsipas in Madrid
BFD he lost to Diego, he's lost to total mugs in clay tune ups before, like Almugro and Verdasco.
Is that when the bracket comes out?4 days until we have our answers
What? Rafa withdrew in R3 in 2016 FO with wrist injury. Are you talking about 2015 QF?2016 loss rg to joker.
O ya my b.What? Rafa withdrew in R3 in 2016 FO with wrist injury. Are you talking about 2015 QF?
Surely Nadal would want Thiem? If he can beat him his confidence will soar. My worry would be he gets a soft draw then gets battle hard Djokovic or thiem in the final. After 6 months off nadal wont be fatigued. In fact he needs a long matchDraw is going to be huge especially with nadal looking shaky and rusty ,if he lands thiem in his half then could be in for the toughest Rg title run ever for him.Add to that if some tough qf or earlier rounds he gets it may really tire him out early so draw is huge for rafa as well at this Rg as is for others
It should add more pressure on his shoulders since he has the chance to tie Fed at his best slam. He will feel like he has to win this tournament even more now.Oh, no question, all true. And people also discount the pressure on his shoulders in trying to tie Fed at #20. As he's aged, Rafa's mental strength has definitely eroded. But it's RG, so that's a different scene for him, to put it mildly.
The talent gap is so big that the age advantage can only do so much.Nadal is also not exactly at his best. And he is also 34 years old. Thiem has a clear age advantage.
In 2014 he also had a big clay title leading into RG, although it was obtained through pure luck.But Rafa got important match play leading up to RG. Not so this year. And other than 2014, he had other titles on clay heading into RG.
It doesn't matter how many times Thiem was in Djokovics half. His chances of being in Djokovics half this year are still 50%.
If Thiem is 3 years in a row drawn in opposite half of Nadal, that's not 50-50.
I don't know for sure if the draw is rigged. Would I discount the possibility however? Certainly not.
True, but Thiem still met Djokovic first in that tournament before Rafa, so I guess it still counts as being on Djokovic's side of the draw.2017 French Open – Men's singles - Wikipedia
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Seems like a few people have short memories. While Rafa has swept all the clay tune ups several times, he's also had years where he lost several tune ups, but still won RG:
2011: Lost Madrid and Rome to Djokovic
2012: Lost MC and Rome to Djokovic, lost to Verdasco in Madrid
2013: Lost MC to Djokovic
2014: Lost MC to Ferrer, lost Barcelona to Almagro, lost Rome to Djokovic
2016: Lost Madrid to Murray and Rome to Djokovic
2017: Lost Rome to Thiem
2018: Lost Madrid to Thiem
2019: Lost MC to Fabio, lost to Thiem in Barcelona and lost to Tsitsipas in Madrid
BFD he lost to Diego, he's lost to total mugs in clay tune ups before, like Almugro and Verdasco.
Nadal and Djokovic will be in opposite halves both with gravy draws until the quarters. As always. It's scripted that way.Totally agree, and not only for Nadal. Djokovic isn’t looking great either.
2017 French Open – Men's singles - Wikipedia
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Err do you know basics of probablity?It doesn't matter how many times Thiem was in Djokovics half. His chances of being in Djokovics half this year are still 50%.
Yes I do, but clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.Err do you know basics of probablity?
No dear sir, this is your statement:Yes I do, but clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
The chance of being 3 times in a row in Djokovics half is 12.5% BEFORE those 3 tournaments. But if 2 are done and we are talking about the 3rd, the chance is still 50%.
It doesn't matter how many times Thiem was in Djokovics half. His chances of being in Djokovics half this year are still 50%.