JaoSousa
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That's a solid 13 years of watching...
How many slams can Medvedev win?
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Nadalgaenger
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Agree. Zverev, I fear, has peaked. And his baseline game, especially FH, not good enough to compensate for the lack of defense. Medvedev is just a better tennis player. I say this as a guy that has been a Zverev fan since I saw him up close at IW in 2016.
Beckerserve
Legend
0. He is a mentally weak player with poor technique in too many areas who cannot cope with b05 set format.
Best he can achieve is a few m1000s and a Wtf.
Beckerserve
Legend
Nadal loss of footspeed is a misnomer. He rarely shows his foot speed and looks sluggish but he still has it as we saw in FO final. He will only really turn the burners on in the biggest matches.
Start da Game
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unfortunately zero if he does not change his mindset.........he said that he prefers best of 3 and the very moment i lost whatever good impression i had of him........
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
He pushed Rafa pretty hard at USO. He was dominant at this year's USO until he ran into ThiemTrain!
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
Exactly! Everything I write is for posterity!
Beckerserve
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Nadal choked badly in that USO final. Ive watched it 32 times and every time i cannot believe Nadal won that.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Hope that figure is an exaggeration lol
Beckerserve
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Lockdown my excuse haha. (Seriously watched it in full about 3 time)
cork_screw
Hall of Fame
Zverev even in the conversation? Really? This guy is so loose on his consistency. His forehands fly long very often, he's very flighty on his groundstrokes. Often he hits unforced errors when not being put in pressured situations. Normally you make unforced errors when stretched out wide or when you have very heavy balls. But Zverev just throws balls long and in the net from basic rally balls. When I see this and how much he double faults, if I was part of his team I would hire two sports psychologists. I would hire a strictly tennis sports psychologist and then an all around general sports psychologist and really strengthen my mental game. I think he gets in his head a lot. Especially with the double faults.
I honestly thought Zverev would be better than what he's shown himself to be. Especially when he was coming in on the scene and he was beating nadal with his solid backhand. But in recent times, he's really shown some massive holes and vulnerabilities in just how inconsistently he plays.
I honestly thought Zverev would be better than what he's shown himself to be. Especially when he was coming in on the scene and he was beating nadal with his solid backhand. But in recent times, he's really shown some massive holes and vulnerabilities in just how inconsistently he plays.
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cork_screw
Hall of Fame
I think Nadal's best hard court year was 2013. He made the hard courts look like clay. His service was so heavy and big back then. That was one difference that changed his hard court game. Not sure why he reverted back to his old serve. I think he said it was less consistent. But he's no longer the wall on hard court like he used to be. Still, I think it's incredible when anyone can beat nadal on hard court because his game is unique in the way that you have so much top spin curving out to your backhand side. It would be nice to see him try to exploit that again like he used to do. But nowadays I can definitely see how he's trying to preserve his body to play longer into his career than to play hot and heavy and burn out in just a few more years. I actually see the same in Lebron James and how he's been conserving his body for the future.
Gazelle
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Ye, that one hour he plays at RG in a year really sks the life out of him.
BlueB
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All of them!
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
This guy is going to CLEAN UP at AO and USO in the next five years. Who is going to stop him?
aditya123
Hall of Fame
Many can stop him. He isn't a lock yet.
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
He was basically a tennis machine at the USO before Thiem match. That match was much closer than score.
Zverev and Djokovic had no answers agains
Another correct prediction!
aditya123
Hall of Fame
He fought Rafa in USO but that was mainly because Rafa let him into the match. The Aus open is always a bit different, I don't see him dominating matches in hot sun at Aus open !!! He is consistent at the Uso, we can expect a few slams from him there. Also as @MeatTornado pointed out, once he starts losing he goes into a slump which doesn't fit well for him
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
If I were Medvedev I would work really hard on two things:
Core strength (higher a top level physio so that he can look like Coric
Net play
If Medvedev actually had a net game he'd be well-nigh unstoppable on HC.
HazBeen18
Rookie
Until he wins a BO5 slam, who can say? Right now, I still think that Thiem has the better shot at the next few hard-court slams. However, Meddy looks better to me physically than he did just a year ago. He played through three very physical matches against Rafa, Novak, and Thiem and didn't look nearly as gassed as the three of them did.
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
Does he start this year?
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Deleted member 771911
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3 or 4. 4 max.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
5( 3 us open, 2 Aus open)
EllieK
Hall of Fame
He said his forehand feels better than it looks
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Zero.
Tennisfan339
Professional
I think he will win more than 4 but less than 10.
He will never win FO, imo.
On grass he is still an average player and he won't win until after Djokovic retires but even then, there are a lot of guys who can take him out.
For AO and USO we'll have to see how long Djokovic will be around. It isn't like he will retire or totally collapse anytime soon. But once Djokovic is done, Medvedev and Zverev (maybe Thiem if he recovers from the injuries, but he is also older, so... ) will be co-favorite for every slams, unless another younger Nextgen (Shapopalov, Sinner,..) suddenly takes over. If everything goes right for Medvedev, he should win 3 or 4 AO and USO, and maybe 1 Wimbledon. Same goes for Zverev, although I think the German has more chances in RG and Wim'. I can see Zverev winning the French Open and even Wimbledon some day but will win less than Medvedev on HC. Thiem could win 1 or 2 FO and maybe 1 more on HC but no more. Tsitsipas will definitely win RG and likely at least twice. Maybe 2 or 3 on HC.
If I had to predict NOW, I would say
24 Djokovic (2 more Wimbledon, 1 more AO and USO)
21 Nadal (1 more FO)
20 Federer (will win more 250, otoh)
8 Medvedev (4 USO, 3 AO, 1 Wimbledon)
7 Zverev (3 AO, 2 FO, 1 USO, 1 Wimbledon)
5 Tsitsipas (3 FO, 1 AO, 1 USO)
4 Thiem (2 USO, 2 FO)
2 Berrettini (Wimbledon)
2 Shapopalov (1 Wimbledon, 1 USO)
2 Alcaraz (FO)
2 Hurkacz (1 Wimbledon, 1 USO)
1 Sinner (AO)
1 Musetti (FO)
1 Opelka (USO)
1 Auger-Aliassime (Wimbledon)
1 Khachanov (USO)
1 Rublev (AO)
Totally random speculations lol. I know I will turn out 100% wrong for most of them. Tsitsipas is probably winning 12 and Medvedev/Zverev wont even get 3. lmao
He will never win FO, imo.
On grass he is still an average player and he won't win until after Djokovic retires but even then, there are a lot of guys who can take him out.
For AO and USO we'll have to see how long Djokovic will be around. It isn't like he will retire or totally collapse anytime soon. But once Djokovic is done, Medvedev and Zverev (maybe Thiem if he recovers from the injuries, but he is also older, so... ) will be co-favorite for every slams, unless another younger Nextgen (Shapopalov, Sinner,..) suddenly takes over. If everything goes right for Medvedev, he should win 3 or 4 AO and USO, and maybe 1 Wimbledon. Same goes for Zverev, although I think the German has more chances in RG and Wim'. I can see Zverev winning the French Open and even Wimbledon some day but will win less than Medvedev on HC. Thiem could win 1 or 2 FO and maybe 1 more on HC but no more. Tsitsipas will definitely win RG and likely at least twice. Maybe 2 or 3 on HC.
If I had to predict NOW, I would say
24 Djokovic (2 more Wimbledon, 1 more AO and USO)
21 Nadal (1 more FO)
20 Federer (will win more 250, otoh)
8 Medvedev (4 USO, 3 AO, 1 Wimbledon)
7 Zverev (3 AO, 2 FO, 1 USO, 1 Wimbledon)
5 Tsitsipas (3 FO, 1 AO, 1 USO)
4 Thiem (2 USO, 2 FO)
2 Berrettini (Wimbledon)
2 Shapopalov (1 Wimbledon, 1 USO)
2 Alcaraz (FO)
2 Hurkacz (1 Wimbledon, 1 USO)
1 Sinner (AO)
1 Musetti (FO)
1 Opelka (USO)
1 Auger-Aliassime (Wimbledon)
1 Khachanov (USO)
1 Rublev (AO)
Totally random speculations lol. I know I will turn out 100% wrong for most of them. Tsitsipas is probably winning 12 and Medvedev/Zverev wont even get 3. lmao
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Thiem?
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
Think Sinner has the potential to get far more than 1. At this point though it’s all pure speculation but I respect the effort - that list could reasonably happen in all honesty.
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
As predicted
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Medvedev has a relatively easy draw to the final: Evans, Schwarztman, FAA / Tiafoe / Alcaraz.
If Joker meets Zverev in the semi-finals, the winner of this match could be very tired in the last match.
And the Russian should seize this magnificent opportunity.
The USO is his best GS, if he doesn't get it now, then when will he?
If Joker meets Zverev in the semi-finals, the winner of this match could be very tired in the last match.
And the Russian should seize this magnificent opportunity.
The USO is his best GS, if he doesn't get it now, then when will he?
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
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6-7 probably. With ZERO weapons. LOL. Scary to think about
That's what I always said. The two were trying to give the match to the other. It was a comedy of errors.
Omega_7000
Legend
Maybe 4 or 5 hardcourt majors after Djokodal retire....
UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
4-6 slams, mostly hardcourts and probably 1 of them will be a Wimbledon.
Nadalgaenger
G.O.A.T.
Well put. We saw all these qualities today.
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-NN-
G.O.A.T.
Well he's got a window of probably at least 2 years starting now where he'll enter HC Majors as fave or joint fave. After that I'm assuming even better players will rise and things will get sketchy.
Looking good for 2-4 Slams. Could be more if Meddy continues to evolve his game in terms of attack.
Looking good for 2-4 Slams. Could be more if Meddy continues to evolve his game in terms of attack.
He would be the first 6’6” guy to win more than one major.
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Slicehand
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6 or 7
Djokovicfan
Professional
I think at least 10
BGod
G.O.A.T.
3 Max, so 2 in addition to his current 1.
He's got Novak in strong contention at least 1 more season and two other strong younger colleagues in Zverev/Tsitsipas along with plausible progressing contenders in Shap, Felix, Sinner, Alcaraz, Ruud.
Turning 26 early next year he'll likely be in prime form maybe for 20 Slams? Even if assuming no injuries he's not at such a level I'd expect him to win more than 25% of those at best. Add in the fact he appears to be more inclined to the 2 HC Slams which at 26 typically means he's not likely to win outside of them.
He's got Novak in strong contention at least 1 more season and two other strong younger colleagues in Zverev/Tsitsipas along with plausible progressing contenders in Shap, Felix, Sinner, Alcaraz, Ruud.
Turning 26 early next year he'll likely be in prime form maybe for 20 Slams? Even if assuming no injuries he's not at such a level I'd expect him to win more than 25% of those at best. Add in the fact he appears to be more inclined to the 2 HC Slams which at 26 typically means he's not likely to win outside of them.
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